Treasonous Fox News.com calls for civil war.

[sufrommich]

America's coming civil war -- makers vs. takers


"Abe Lincoln used those words in 1858 to describe a country that was careening toward civil war. Now we’re a house divided again and another civil war is coming, with the 2012 election as its Gettysburg."

"
So we know which side Obama and the Democratic party are on. Like John Brown’s raid on Harper’s Ferry, ObamaCare has been a wakeup call to what’s at stake–just as the turbulent events in Wisconsin showed how far Democrats are willing to go to win.

We’re not Greece yet -- or on the brink of Bull Run. But it’s time for Romney and Republicans to make clear which side they’re on "





Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/07/12/america-coming-civil-war/#ixzz2BaPZUWCN

[robinlynne]

1. They are making it quite clear. You have doubts? It is time for OUR side to make things clear imho.

[robinlynne]

2. holy shit. I just read your link and understood. wow....

[aletier_v]

3. Freepers like takers, look at their love for Ayn Rand

[codjh9]

4. Let me tell you younger people on here... the Right wasn't remotely this crazy a while back. It's

like some of the SF novels I've read - '1984', 'Brave New World', 'The Handmaid's Tale', and many more... their view of patriotism and 'what's right' is insane.

[sufrommich]

5. Amen. nt

[onenote]

11. As an "oldster" let me make a different point

During the Vietnam War I marched on Washington carrying banners calling for "Revolution." I was labelled a traitor for doing so. Anyone who claims that the author of the opinion piece in the OP (the premise of which i strongly dispute) is guilty of "treason" sounds like someone who would have been on the other side of the fence from me when protested the war, and I find that very sad.

[codjh9]

12. That's a good point. I think Faux News' reasons are nutty, but you have a point that

anyone should be able to march on Washington and say whatever they want. And btw, my dad was a political science professor who spoke out against the Vietnam War - at a univ. in TX, no less - and probably wasn't too popular in town as a result, but I was (and remain) damned proud of Dad.

[Fire Walk With Me]

6. And there it is.

[Bad_Ronald]

7. This is strictly anecdotal, but I've often wonder if this isn't representative of

society as a whole. All of my progressive friends & family members work (or did work if they're retired) & pay taxes. The most conservative people I know, one of my cousins from Long Island, and an aunt who now lives in Florida, don't. If fact, my aunt has NEVER worked a day in her life. And yet, whenever I see her at family functions, she always rambles on about freeloaders & welfare sponges. And my cousin in Long Island is just flat-out crazy. He's a recluse who believes every crackpot conspiracy theory he hears or reads on the internet. He used to listen to the Art Bell show religiously.

[Initech]

8. Considering we don't make anything anymore that will be a really lopsided civil war.

[Junkdrawer]

9. Remember: It only SAYS FICA and SS Tax on your paycheck....

That money actually belongs to the "makers" to pay for the imperial troops and bailouts.

Any SS benefits you may or may not receive are really social welfare gifts given to you directly from the pockets of the makers.

You ungrateful scum.

[Posteritatis]

10. And they were saying that in July; wonder what that guy'll be ranting about today. (nt)

[xfundy]

13. "Makers" are all in Communist China and India now.

Let the impotent idiots cradle their guns in their Cheetos-tinged orange hands. Though they constantly bleated about "rule of law" for years, while calling for the opposite, it still exists, and it's not about one party or another.

On the one hand, I actually hope they carry through on their threats of secession for TX and SC, or wherever they've picked lately, as long as sane people are allowed to go out. I would strongly support their secession so that taxpayer money is no longer sent to support them. When and if that happens, I will say, along with millions of others, "build the dang fence." And electrify it, using solar or wind power, backed up by existing power grids. This shit has to stop.

[ReRe]

14. Remember the Whiskey Rebellion....

.... old President George Washington set a precedent. And if Honest Abe arose from
the dead right now, the first thing he would do is renounce his membership in the GOP and
become a Democrat straight away. Can you imagine a republican sitting down and writing anything similar to the Emancipation Proclamation? Anyway, I say "bring-it-on" and see what happens. It'll be over before it begins.

[nc4bo]

15. Fox News needs to go.

Was listening to Bill Mahr talk about how the RWNJ are in their own alternate reality bubble and are actually clueless to what goes on outside in the real world.

He made sense and he's right. Fox News, RW hate radio - all the nutty radical extremist bullhorns have got to go.

But there's that little issue of free speech.................

Corporate media needs to go........we need a free press that's more interested in investigating and reporting the truth instead of creating a cash cow.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

16. "with the 2012 election as its Gettysburg" What?

Wouldn't it be with the 2012 election as its Fort Sumter?

Gettysburg was a loss for the Confederates and a win for the Union.

"Like John Brown’s raid on Harper’s Ferry, ObamaCare has been a wake up call to what’s at stake."

The raid at Harper's Ferry was a failure for John Brown. The Healthcare resolution has been any but a failure.


This guy is all over the place.


This guy is a historian?

From the WIK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Herman

Arthur L. Herman (born 1956) is an American popular historian, currently serving as a visiting scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank.[1]

So he is just a conservative asshole that is steamed.
American Enterprise Institute. Need I say any more?

[apnu]

17. WTF?! Gettysburg? The 'high water mark of the Confederacy'?

So are they saying the civil war is half over? Or are they saying this is as far as the conservative movement goes before it deminishes?

What a bunch of clowns.

[Amonester]

22. I read it as *their* call for civil war is...

for the *makers* (the 1% + the extreme-right) to wage war against the *takers* (Robbedme & Co's 47%).

To me such craziness belongs in detainment if carried on (Criminal Law still exists).

Also, not a peep about the "List" of Greece's one-percenters who dodged their taxes and shelled them in Swiss Banks for decades.

Not one.

[liberal_at_heart]

18. throughout history when the rich hoard all the money and

and the poor are starving to death the poor overthrow the rich. It has happened time and time again. If they want to talk civil war they should study up on their history.

[icymist]

19. So when did this statement first appear?

I bet it was before the election. That's why the referring to the 2012 election as Gettysburg, or the battle that turned the Civil War around. Kind of funny to think that Faux News are considering themselves to be on the side of the union and the anti-slavery movement.

[JHB]

21. icymist calls it! It's from July 12.

[JHB]

20. Is he using some sort of Random Civil War Buzzword generator?

Gettysburg! Harper's Ferry! Bull Run!

None of these are used in a context that make any sense.What is he a historian of? Medieval French cheesemaking, and can't admit that to a Fox audience?