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renate

(13,776 posts)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:02 PM Nov 2012

I beg to differ with the "it was all demographics" theorists--it was the PEOPLE WHO STOOD IN LINE

I was just watching the pundits on Hardball talk about how the Obama campaign had focused like a laser on four groups--Hispanics, African-Americans, college-educated white women, and young people, in specific areas of specific states, starting a billion dollars and year and a half ago--and while that sounds really prescient and brilliant, all of that would have been for nothing if it hadn't been for the American heroes who stood in line for two or four or seven hours.

Admittedly, in the pictures I saw, those groups were over-represented in those long lines... but the talking heads are making it seem as though the geniuses behind Obama's win were the people who made clever demographic predictions. No. The geniuses were the people who refused to let the GOP steal their right to vote, no matter what they had to endure to exercise it.

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codjh9

(2,781 posts)
1. Y'damn right. In fact, their bullshit fired UP a lot of people. Once again, they helped their
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:05 PM
Nov 2012

own defeat.

aletier_v

(1,773 posts)
2. Learn
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:07 PM
Nov 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Dent

The basis of Dent's research is the highly predictable nature of consumer spending based on a family's formation pattern: minimal spending as young adults, increased spending while rearing children, peaking their spending as their children leave home, and then slowing spending during the last 15 years of working life (48-63) while saving more and preparing for retirement.

In the late 1980s, Dent forecast that the Japanese economy, then the darling of the world, would soon enter a slowdown that would last more than a decade. In the early 1990s, he predicted that the DOW would reach 10k. Both of these predictions were met with much skepticism, and yet both eventually came to pass.

In Japan, Dent was using their peak of 45-50 year olds (1990–1994) as the beginning of a long slowdown. In the US, he used, and continues to use, the peak year for 48-year-olds, 2009, as the top of a long term growth pattern.

Buddaman

(503 posts)
4. I said it once
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:09 PM
Nov 2012

but I'll say it again....The un-sung heros are the people that waited hours yo get their vote in.

GETTINGTIRED

(330 posts)
5. you are right
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:09 PM
Nov 2012

....much gratitude to everyone who voted... whether thru the mail ...evoted...stood in line a minute or hours ......thank you.....

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
6. Ypu are so right! It reaaly is heartening to know that the new DEMographic
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:12 PM
Nov 2012

will not allow the big money and big "guns" (NRA) buy or bully their votes away. There is hope for a real American dream in the near future.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
7. Both are true. Al Sharpton said trying voter suppression backfired, and fired Dems up....they
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:22 PM
Nov 2012

went to vote big time and were prepared to vote vote vote!

Those wonderful people! I am in full admiration mode of the average American. It's people like that that make America great. Not the Mitt Romneys.

man4allcats

(4,026 posts)
8. I wish I could take credit for this, but I can't.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:23 PM
Nov 2012

Somebody on DU suggested in the last couple of days that the reason Romney would/did lose is that
Americans are just sick and tired of the GOP's idealogical bullshit. I couldn't agree more. That is where the answer lies. The GOP needs to get real or die. Dying would work fine for me since I seriously doubt they have any intention of getting real.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
9. however, it WAS the demographics that are the democratic party the Rainbow Connection
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:34 PM
Nov 2012

As Jesse Jackson politically coined, as Jim Henson sang (as Kermit)

WE came together and in unity, became the vast majority of this country
ALL groups, inclusive

Instead of their racist hate everyone but "the master racer" philosophy the republicantealibertarians have

Demographis is not a bad spin, not a bad word

IT is what has enabled all the different groups that make up America to come together and in the minority status, actually becaome the majority

(ironic that the "silent majority" is us now (People who remember Nixon's time remember that phrase)

We don't need to hide the fact, in fact, we need to continue to embrace the forward change in America.

(and after all, except for Native Americans, we ALL came from someplace else

And as President Obama said-we all built this, no one did it by themselves.

The bullshit in the media was that anyone who was a core Obama voter had changed their vote. NO not one person did


There was a revolution in both 2008 and 2012 and it was the voting booth that the revolution was won in.
A peaceful revolution.

And the dream lives on...

Lebam in LA

(1,345 posts)
10. Those voters are amazing!
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:35 PM
Nov 2012
I feel guilty living in a state that makes voting so easy. Those voters deserve our great thanks.

cally

(21,594 posts)
11. Thank you. It was people doing whatever it takes to vote and get others to vote
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:56 PM
Nov 2012

The democrats had the enthusiasm. I'm humbled by voters in some states who waited hours to vote. I feel proud of my country today.

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