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Dog shoots man: Kansas deputy finds 32-year-old hunter dead in his car and concludes his dog stepped on the trigger of his rifle in the back seatA 32-year-old man from Wichita, Kansas, was hunting on Saturday near the village of Geuda Springs, 50 miles south of his hometown
The unnamed man was found dead in the front seat of his vehicle by Sumner County sheriffs, just north of the border with Oklahoma
Investigators concluded that the man's dog stepped on the rifle in the back seat of the car, which then fired, killing him
as hunter was found dead in his car on Saturday, with sheriffs concluding that he was killed when his dog stepped on the trigger of his rifle.
The unnamed man from Wichita was found near the hamlet of Geuda Springs, 50 miles south of Wichita and home to 194 people just north of the Oklahoma border.
Sheriffs believe he died at around 9:40am.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11669503/Dog-shoots-man-32-year-old-hunter-dead-car-sheriffs-concludes-dog-stepped-trigger.html
Woodswalker
(549 posts)SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)You can't make stuff like this up. Well, George Santos probably could. I'm sure it's happened to him on dozens of occasions.
Sky Jewels
(7,133 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,193 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)czarjak
(11,289 posts)Rhiannon12866
(205,903 posts)Who keeps an unattended loaded gun lying around??
Skittles
(153,185 posts)yup
TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts)TurboDem
(216 posts)llmart
(15,552 posts)I think I'll sign Fido up for an NRA membership in honor of this brave dog hero.
calimary
(81,441 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)ToxMarz
(2,169 posts)Emile
(22,887 posts)with a gun.
PJMcK
(22,047 posts)Arent you supposed to secure guns and ammunition when you store them?
This man was grossly irresponsible. He left a loaded rifle in the back of his vehicle (with the safety off?) with his dog. Dogs move around a lot in a car, you know. The weapon must have been pointed towards the front seat which also seems weird.
What a foolish man!
James48
(4,438 posts)In every state, a dog has to get its license renewed every year.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)He didnt fall.
panader0
(25,816 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,439 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,423 posts)but for gawd's sake, secure the fucking firearm when not in use.
Torchlight
(3,360 posts)is just another marketing slogan slicked up and sold to the consumer base.
ratchiweenie
(7,754 posts)have a safety off or something? Seems really stupid to me to put a loaded weapon that is ready to fire in the back seat with your dog.
tavernier
(12,396 posts)He must have been terrified from the blast. Can you imagine how loud that would be? Poor pup. Some owners are just not meant to have pets.
friend of a friend
(367 posts)Even "man's best friend" can get cranky now and then.
LPBBEAR
(296 posts)I posted the following there.
There is a reason you leave a weapon unloaded until you actually are out of the vehicle and actively hunting. Also why the safety is supposed to be on when the weapon is loaded. Basic Hunter Safety rules. I don't hunt anymore and haven't for years but I remember those rules being drilled into us at the hunter safety class I was required to take as a teenager.
Everything about this incident sounds illogical. Loaded weapon, apparently a long gun, somehow pointing at a passenger or driver (in the front seat?) dog bouncing around the loaded weapon, safety off? Did hunters stop using rifle racks? (apparently not a truck) How does one manage to stash a rifle in the back seat of a vehicle so that it points at someone in the front seat and if it wasn't a truck with a rack why weren't the weapons stored in the trunk until actively stopped and hunting anyway? Just weird all around.
I feel sorry from the victims loved ones loss but the victim did absolutely everything wrong and the results, if not 100% predictable, were probable at some point in his hunting career.
Conjuay
(1,396 posts)More room for 'Spot'.
Found a more local article stating it was a pickup truck. Pickup trucks with back seats are either king cabs or have a fold down front seat for access to the back. So no trunk for safe storage of the weapon and gear. Article also mentioned it was a rifle. So how does someone place a long gun in a back seat in a position that it shoots directly into the front seat? Did the victim actually stick a loaded weapon and all his other hunting gear on the floor in the back and maybe stand the rifle somewhat upright so that when it went off it was pointing forward? If the rifle was laying on the back seat it would seem the weapon would have discharged through a side panel, not towards the front seat. This story is just all around weird.
sl8
(13,864 posts)Still haven't seen anywhere whose gun it was.
He was asking for this to happen. I can't even imagine someone doing something that stupid.
sl8
(13,864 posts)he sure should have been aware of its presence there......especially since it was pointing right at him.
sl8
(13,864 posts)Last edited Thu Jan 26, 2023, 06:04 AM - Edit history (3)
Celerity
(43,485 posts)hunt in northern Sweden. He comes over several times a year from London, and sometimes goes älg or wild game bird hunting.
Hunting is fairly widespread here, especially in the rural and northern areas. Would my father's accident death be cheered on here? Simply because he is a hunter, a human/hominid activity stretching back millions of years into our collective past?
Being a hunter is no way means you are automatically a RW POS (both of my parents are far, FAR from that!) nor do accidental hunting deaths deserve to automatically be celebrated.
SMDH
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,423 posts)Some of the comments here are......well.......disappointing.
And that's all I have to say.
sarisataka
(18,755 posts)Many deaths are considered tragic. Some however are dismissed as karma or even fodder for humor. Ironically those latter incidents do not involve any criminal activity.
OTH an armed robber killed by a civilian in self-defense will be called a victim. The civilian will be condemned as "choosing" to be judge jury and executioner.
Coventina
(27,169 posts)This hunter was clearly not being a responsible gun owner.
What if he'd had a friend, or maybe a child with him that had been killed?
That would be grounds to charge him with manslaughter, or maybe negligent homicide.
Or, a wrongful death lawsuit by the family of the victim.
I don't see "cheers" about him being a hunter.
People are just sick of "responsible" gun owners being the cause of tragedies.
When it lands on their own heads, then, yeah, there is lack of sympathy.
I'm a vegetarian, but I'm not automatically against ALL hunting.
(Trophy hunting, and hunting anything endangered, or inedible, yes, I'm against that).
sl8
(13,864 posts)The truck & dog belonged to someone else, I haven't seen anything that says whose gun it was.
Coventina
(27,169 posts)But if I'm mistaken, I apologize.
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)I personally have no interest in hunting, but hunters can be great allies when it comes to matters of conservation. I do a lot of hiking and Im certain I appreciate pristine forests and clean water just as much as a guy who hunts.
Here in the US, some of the first national parks were established by President Theodore Roosevelt in the early 1900s - he was a guy that was an avid hunter and outdoorsman.
LiberalFighter
(51,054 posts)MissMillie
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haele
(12,674 posts)I don't own a gun or a rifle, but even I know you don't just toss one in the back seat where a dog can get to it or a big pot-hole cause enough of a bump to fire it if the safety is off.
Which I suspect it was if the dog was able to step on it enough to fire the weapon.
Haele