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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:25 PM Nov 2012

Can the W.H. or Congress do something about Citizens United?

All that money...TONS of money....HISTORIC amounts of money spent on, what? Ads? By mega-rich people trying to buy a lower tax rate and deregulation and total free market?

Is it possible that Congress can do away with that horrible "corporations are people" Citizens United decision? I guess the GOP House wouldn't let is pass?

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Esse Quam Videri

(685 posts)
2. Here is some more info from an email I received this morning
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:32 PM
Nov 2012

Dear Greg -

Here’s some terrific news. With victories yesterday in statewide votes in Montana and Colorado, both by nearly three-to-one margins, we’re now one quarter of the way to amending the U.S. Constitution to overturn Citizens United.

This a huge milestone, one we could not have achieved without your help, along with the help of many friends and allied organizations, including Common Cause, which led the way on the Montana and Colorado victories with our support, as well as People for the American Way, Public Citizen, U.S. PIRG, Move to Amend, Ben & Jerry’s, RootsAction, the American Sustainable Business Council, Auburn Seminary, Avaaz, Credo, unPAC, and SignOn.org.


The Math

As you may recall, amending the constitution requires passage by two thirds of each chamber of Congress, and then ratification by three quarters of the states. Those thresholds equal 67 U.S. Senators, 290 U.S. Representatives, and ten states.

We’re one quarter of the way there in the Senate, with 24 returning U.S. Senators who have introduced or co-sponsored amendment bills. We’re also one quarter of the way there in the House, with 73 returning U.S. Representatives having introduced or co-sponsored amendments.1 And now, as of yesterday, eleven states have formally called for an amendment: Hawaii, New Mexico, Vermont, Rhode Island, California, Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Montana, and Colorado.


The Meaning

It’s especially exciting that Montana and Colorado acted through statewide votes of the people. They’re the first states to do so (the other nine states acted through their legislatures). The overwhelming margins of victory are worth celebrating too: although the last ballots are still being counted, the count so far in Montana stands at 74.9% to 25.1%; in Colorado the count so far is 73.8% to 26.2%

These victories also underscore the trans-partisan nature of our growing national movement: Montana’s a red state, and Colorado is a swing state. Polls show that support for an amendment transcends party lines: our own poll in 2010 showed that 68% of Republicans, 82% of independents, and 87% of Democrats support an amendment.2 An Associated Press poll this past September found that 81% of Republicans, 78% of independents, and 85% of Democrats want to limit corporate, union, and other outside spending on our elections.3

This trans-partisan support will be tremendously important for our continued success going forward.


What Now

Help us build on this momentum. Send a letter to the editor of your newspaper to get the word out about what we’re accomplishing together. Now, just after Americans everywhere have been barraged for months by negative campaign ads enabled by Citizens United, is a great time to highlight what we can do go fight back.

We’ve made it easy to put your letter together in just a few moments with our online tool.

Click here to send a letter to the editor of your newspaper.


Thanks again for all you did to make this moment possible.

Sincerely,

- Peter

Peter Schurman
Free Speech For People
Wednesday, November 7th, 2012

pinto

(106,886 posts)
4. Just a math note - requires 38 state ratifications if folks are advocating an amendment route.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:45 PM
Nov 2012

Three quarters of the states - 50/4 x 3 = 38.

pinto

(106,886 posts)
9. I think the best challenge is a well done challenge in the courts.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:08 PM
Nov 2012

SCOTUS ruled on the original. If faced with a substantiative legal challenge from lower courts I don't see how they could refuse to consider.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
10. Is there a conservative due to retire from the SCOTUS?
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:15 PM
Nov 2012

Scalia, Roberts, Kennedy, Thomas...who's the fifth one? Stephens? They aren't really old. Too bad.

 

Anthony McCarthy

(507 posts)
3. I'd get a guarantee that any nominee
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:39 PM
Nov 2012

to the court believes that corporate person hood must be overturned and that money does not equal speech. The responsibility to self-government of, by and for a accurately informed people is at least as important as to the constitution. The right to real, effective self-government on the basis of reality is more basic and unchanging than the constitution, it is the reason that the constitution is legitimate or worth defending.

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