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babylonsister

(171,061 posts)
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 10:16 AM Jan 2023

Charles McGonigal's arrest should make Jared very nervous

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/1/28/2149813/-Charles-McGonigal-s-arrest-should-make-Jared-very-nervous

Charles McGonigal's arrest should make Jared very nervous
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Saturday January 28, 2023 · 1:30 PM EST
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So far, news of the bombshell arrest of Charles McGonigal, the former FBI special agent, has focused on his central role in events leading up to the 2016 election. That connection is stunning, to be sure.

But there is another issue raised by McGonigal's arrest that hasn't drawn nearly as much attention. At least it has not yet, but it may prove even more pivotal to bringing down the Trump crime syndicate. And that's McGonigal's curious association with the desperate attempts by Jared Kushner, and his father, Charles, to rescue an upside-down investment in 666 (now 660) 5th Avenue.

A little background. Kushner Properties bought the iconic Midtown property for a record $1.8 billion in 2007, just before the 2008 crash. About $1.3 billion purchase was financed, and the property was almost instantaneously hemmoraging big money. Some estimates valued the building at well less than half of the purchase price.

Remarkably, after years of failed efforts (including overtures to a Chinese company), the Kushners finally were able to sell a 99 year lease on the building to a company called Brookfield Asset Management in August 2018, with funding supplied by Qatar's sovereign wealth fund. The $1.2-billion lease payment for all 99 years was paid up front, allowing the Kushners to get the finance monkeys off their backs. Phew!

Crucially, after McGonigal retired from the FBI in September 2018, he was hired as senior vice president for security by none other than Brookfield... the company that saved the Kushners' asses.

Below is a link to a fascinating timeline of the Kushner/666 5th Avenue saga. It is an absolute must read. It long predates McGonigal's arrest, as it's nearly two years old.

But what you'll find is instructive and critically important, I think. Blackmail, unauthorized diplomacy, and more.

Now, a direct connection to none other than Charles McGonigal. Coincidence? It's just too crazy to be coincidence.

Stay tuned.

https://www.justsecurity.org/69094/timeline-on-jared-kushner-qatar-666-fifth-avenue-and-white-house-policy/
Timeline on Jared Kushner, Qatar, 666 Fifth Avenue, and White House Policy
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Charles McGonigal's arrest should make Jared very nervous (Original Post) babylonsister Jan 2023 OP
I'm not convinced Jared has a fully functioning limbic system. tanyev Jan 2023 #1
Good call - he fits right in with that family. Duppers Jan 2023 #43
If it did. How could we tell? He always looks like he's "waiting for the poison to kick in" when Carlitos Brigante Jan 2023 #2
i found that the old 5th ave address most fascinating 666. AllaN01Bear Jan 2023 #3
Don't forget that ronnie had his house address changed from 666 St. Cloud Rd niyad Jan 2023 #4
Ronald Wilson Reagan 6 6 6 FoxNewsSucks Jan 2023 #10
Shhhhh. We are not supposed to notice. niyad Jan 2023 #39
It's all out there. Maybe FBI counterintelligence can follow the breadcrumbs OhNo-Really Jan 2023 #23
I'm not sure the current FBI could follow a railroad track while riding a flatcar on it. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2023 #24
There was much discussion here on DU about that billion dollar bailout at the niyad Jan 2023 #5
i think a lot of ppl should be nervous. mopinko Jan 2023 #6
But didn't the money that paid off Kushner's 1.3 really come from MBS/Saudi Arabia via Qatar and ... Botany Jan 2023 #7
He got the look of a jealous lover robbob Jan 2023 #8
Always remember the most important parts of the Steele Dossier wasn't the pee pee* tapes that ..... Botany Jan 2023 #14
Yeah, his covetous, resentful eyes are laser beam locked on the 2 of them KPN Jan 2023 #15
Good description. wnylib Jan 2023 #16
He had that same look when Melania was "greeting" Justin Trudeau, iirc. yorkster Jan 2023 #18
Oh dahlink... tells me evedything.... Blue Owl Jan 2023 #44
Your title has me chuckling... yorkster Jan 2023 #46
Proof that a picture DOES say a thousand words. yonder Jan 2023 #38
Someone out there should compose a book DENVERPOPS Jan 2023 #26
Putin has declared war on America with what he has done in his rat fucking our election Botany Jan 2023 #29
BINGO BOTANY DENVERPOPS Jan 2023 #30
Can you come up with the pic DENVERPOPS Jan 2023 #31
Google "the moscow 8" Botany Jan 2023 #34
Great, thanks DENVERPOPS Jan 2023 #35
And this Mother Fucker, Jack Hanick, a former Fox News Exec and Sean Hannity Producer was @ a Botany Jan 2023 #32
EXCELLEN BOTANY DENVERPOPS Jan 2023 #37
This McGonigal case should be a much bigger deal in the media Jarqui Jan 2023 #9
Exactly. The nation's owners don't want certain things mentioned. Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #13
At the beginning of our Democracy DENVERPOPS Jan 2023 #27
Could it be De Tocqueville? Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #33
BINGO! THX KB.........NC DENVERPOPS Jan 2023 #36
+1, uponit7771 Jan 2023 #25
Jared's a moron. Great timeline. underpants Jan 2023 #11
I doubt he's too worried. Bonesaw Arabia's $2 Billion will buy a lot of good lawyers for him. FoxNewsSucks Jan 2023 #12
The last I heard work on Jared and Ivanka's home Mr.Bill Jan 2023 #28
Great post and fascinating to learn about this FakeNoose Jan 2023 #17
Good question, we can only hope the powers that might suppress that info NoMoreRepugs Jan 2023 #19
Dots - Qatar - Carter Page 2017/Qatar 2018 OhNo-Really Jan 2023 #22
and from October - December of 2018 Uncle Joe Jan 2023 #20
like it republianmushroom Jan 2023 #21
but...but....WHAT ABOUT HUNTER BIDEN'S LAPTOP Skittles Jan 2023 #40
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Jan 2023 #41
Great Post samplegirl Jan 2023 #42
Seems like everyone associated with TFG is a criminal. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2023 #45
I'm not holding my breath AverageOldGuy Jan 2023 #47
Liars, cheaters, theives. And their goons: the gqp. lindysalsagal Jan 2023 #48

Carlitos Brigante

(26,500 posts)
2. If it did. How could we tell? He always looks like he's "waiting for the poison to kick in" when
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 10:27 AM
Jan 2023

standing next to a human being.

niyad

(113,293 posts)
4. Don't forget that ronnie had his house address changed from 666 St. Cloud Rd
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 11:03 AM
Jan 2023

to 668 St. Cloud.

cracks me up, as 666 is the sacred number of the Goddess. Chartres Cathedral is 666 feet long.

niyad

(113,293 posts)
5. There was much discussion here on DU about that billion dollar bailout at the
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 11:07 AM
Jan 2023

time. Now it looks to be even dirtier than we thought.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
7. But didn't the money that paid off Kushner's 1.3 really come from MBS/Saudi Arabia via Qatar and ...
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 11:12 AM
Jan 2023

.... in thanx for paying off his debt on the property @ 666 5th Ave Kushner gave up classified information
(Presidential Daily Brief which he should not have been allowed to have) about the Washington Post's reporter
Khashoggi to MBS? After which MBS had Khashoggi cut up alive @ the Saudi Embassy in Istanbul.



And look who is in the background when Putin and MBS are high 5ing each other.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
14. Always remember the most important parts of the Steele Dossier wasn't the pee pee* tapes that .....
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 12:02 PM
Jan 2023

... Putin got of Donny in 2013 when he was in Russia for his Miss Universe pageant but that Donny
and Kushner too were way deep into debt to not only Russia but Saudi Arabia and China too. To me
it looks like Donny is nervous around his real bosses.


* in early spring of 2013 TFG and some of the exact same Russians who met up in Trump Tower
in June of 2016 went to "night club" in Las Vegas that featured water sports shows. I think through
those Russians Vlad learned of TFG's proclivity for golden showers and set him up when he came to
Russia later that year.

yorkster

(1,490 posts)
46. Your title has me chuckling...
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 09:00 AM
Jan 2023

even tho' I'm off to the dentist in a few minutes.

That photo was taken at the perfect moment and of course the zooming in adds to the effect. And orange McGrumpyface trying to mask his inner mad.

DENVERPOPS

(8,818 posts)
26. Someone out there should compose a book
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 04:13 PM
Jan 2023

of these special photos......

I would suggest including the photo of the five of our senators?/house members? at a luncheon in Russia with Putin on July Fourth...

Or the one of that Female Green Party Presidential candidate, having dinner with a group of Russian Politicians/Oligarchs.

(I cannot remember her name, she was a Doctor? in Washington? or Oregon?..... but it was more than obvious she ran for president to do nothing more than steal away/divert voters from Hillary....)

DENVERPOPS

(8,818 posts)
31. Can you come up with the pic
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 04:45 PM
Jan 2023

of the Republican Politicians, in Russia, on OUR national holiday, July fourth, having lunch of dinner with Putin??????

DENVERPOPS

(8,818 posts)
35. Great, thanks
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 05:43 PM
Jan 2023

Pelosi had it right when she said: ALL ROADS LEAD TO PUTIN

And Hillary: THERE IS A GIANT RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY....

Botany

(70,501 posts)
32. And this Mother Fucker, Jack Hanick, a former Fox News Exec and Sean Hannity Producer was @ a
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 04:46 PM
Jan 2023

... party in Moscow on election night 2016 celebrating Trump's "win."

?w=1200&ssl=1

Russia is way deep into the American right wing.

DENVERPOPS

(8,818 posts)
37. EXCELLEN BOTANY
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 05:47 PM
Jan 2023

Pelosi had it right when she said: ALL ROADS LEAD TO PUTIN

And Hillary: THERE IS A GIANT RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY....

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
9. This McGonigal case should be a much bigger deal in the media
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 11:32 AM
Jan 2023

So should the one where Barr was messing with Durham.

I guess the US media oligarchs are not as enthusiastic ...

Kid Berwyn

(14,900 posts)
13. Exactly. The nation's owners don't want certain things mentioned.
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 11:43 AM
Jan 2023

Like how much of US foreign and domestic policies benefit the rich, meaning, themselves.

DENVERPOPS

(8,818 posts)
27. At the beginning of our Democracy
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 04:18 PM
Jan 2023

Some Frenchman? stated:

"Democracy will work until some people, some political group, or some business realizes that they can vote themselves money."......

or something like that...........

Any one out there remember who the french guy was, and what the exact quote was that he made at the time???????

Kid Berwyn

(14,900 posts)
33. Could it be De Tocqueville?
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 04:57 PM
Jan 2023

“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money”

-Alexis De Tocqueville

underpants

(182,791 posts)
11. Jared's a moron. Great timeline.
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 11:34 AM
Jan 2023

Jared takes the $800 M made from the sale of his dad’s company and throws the whole thing back on the table on one bet.

Mr.Bill

(24,284 posts)
28. The last I heard work on Jared and Ivanka's home
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 04:32 PM
Jan 2023

in Florida hasn't gotten underway. Maybe they are planning to go live somewhere else. Somewhere with a much warmer climate. If anyone in the Trump family fears prison, it would be Jared.

FakeNoose

(32,637 posts)
17. Great post and fascinating to learn about this
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 12:20 PM
Jan 2023

What I don't get is - What did Qatar get out of this deal?

Sure they have scads of oil money but Qatar is no friend to the Saudi royal family, nor are they allied to the USA in any way. Were they so desperate to lease a property on 5th Avenue, Manhattan that they were willing to sink $1.6 billion into a loser? Hell they could have bought one of Chump's buildings.

How did Kushner package this so that it was interesting to Qatar? I'm guessing that other promises were made that weren't in the Kushner family's purview. Like maybe ... a few state secrets from the US govt. here and there ... or a dossier of top secret documents maybe?



OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
22. Dots - Qatar - Carter Page 2017/Qatar 2018
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 01:42 PM
Jan 2023

2017. Business Insider reports:

Memos: CEO of Russia's state oil company offered Trump adviser, allies a cut of huge deal if sanctions were lifted

“…. Editors note: They were allegedly offered the brokerage of the 19% stake, whose purchase by the QIA and Glencore was ultimately facilitated by Gazprombank.”

https://www.businessinsider.com/carter-page-trump-russia-igor-sechin-dossier-2017-1?op=1

2018 - Reuters reports

“ LONDON/MOSCOW (Reuters) - Qatar is taking a nearly 19 percent stake in Rosneft ROSN.MM, rescuing the Russian oil major from its stalled deal to sell a major stake to China's CEFC.

QIA would control an equity stake of 18.93 percent and Glencore would hold some 0.57 percent.”

“ "Sechin's associate said that the Rosneft president was so keen to lift personal and corporate western sanctions imposed on the company, that he offered Page and his associates the brokerage of up to a 19 per cent (privatised) stake in Rosneft," the dossier said. "In return, Page had expressed interest and confirmed that were Trump elected US president, then sanctions on Russia would be lifted."

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-rosneft-qatar-idUSKBN1I527G

Allegedly, Qatar was also largest holder of Glencore

Allegedly, according to the above-cited articles, Page Et Al Investment firm is reported to have earned 19% commission of the sale of a bit less than a 20% stake of Rosneft something something US sanctions.

Uncle Joe

(58,355 posts)
20. and from October - December of 2018
Sun Jan 29, 2023, 01:05 PM
Jan 2023


Jared Kushner advised Saudi prince on how to 'weather' Khashoggi slaying, report says

President Donald Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner has been a promoter of Saudi Prince Mohammed bin Salman since the early days of the administration and recently offered the prince advice on how to handle the outrage over the slaying of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi, The New York Times reported Saturday.

Kushner, 37, who serves as Trump's adviser on the Middle East, has kept up informal conversations with the prince, 33, since early 2017, the Times reported, citing unnamed sources. Three former senior officials told the paper that the politically inexperienced Kushner's private chats with Mohammed could have made him "susceptible to Saudi manipulation."

Khashoggi was killed on Oct. 2 by Saudi agents at the country's consulate in Istanbul. Although the administration has played down reported evidence linking the slaying to the prince and cautioned lawmakers not to take action against Saudi Arabia in response to the killing, senators say U.S. intelligence reports clearly implicate the crown prince.

(snip)

After the killing, Kushner "became the prince’s most important defender inside the White House," the Times reported.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/09/jared-kushner-advised-saudi-prince-after-khashoggi-murder-report-says/2257098002/



I haven't done much research yet but I wonder whether Khashoggi was reporting on Kushner's connections/malfeasance and whether that is what led to his murder?

Thanks for the thread babylonsister

AverageOldGuy

(1,524 posts)
47. I'm not holding my breath
Mon Jan 30, 2023, 10:03 AM
Jan 2023

Remember: Merrick Garland, US Attorney General, would have to approve any charges against Jared.

You see, I served 30 years in the Army, including two tours in Vietnam, retired in 1995. I've pretty much lost faith in the whole system and am looking into moving permanently to Europe, likely Switzerland.

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