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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAsk yourself why Republicans would sue to stop people from getting student loan forgiveness.
the white house:
New data shows that 26 million Americans across all 50 states applied or were automatically eligible for one-time student debt relief.
The only thing stopping millions of these borrowers from experiencing relief today is a lawsuit brought by opponents of our plan.
politicsgirl:
Ask yourself why
Republicans would sue to stop people from getting student loan forgiveness.
(good video)
Link to tweet
cstanleytech
(26,295 posts)Response to orleans (Original post)
Celerity This message was self-deleted by its author.
Sympthsical
(9,074 posts)I am a veteran of those battles here where, as I said recently, it felt like I was pushing back against my Republican grandfather over Millennial/GenZ issues, particularly surrounding the cost of education.
The tweet feels like gaslighting. If you want to witness hostility to cost of education issues, you don't have to go far afield to find it.
I'm trending more in the same boat you describe in your last two paragraphs. There were several self-celebratory, back-slapping, "We're awesome, and the kids suck" threads last week. And I started to get that feeling I get when I visit my mom. She lives in a senior condo retirement community. Whenever I visit once or twice a year, I'll go with her to bingo. Pretty much the only person there with natural hair color. What's hilarious is, sometimes I'll win. One time hugely. And it's like you totally feel like an intruder in those moments. "The kid is encroaching on our thing and is taking our bingo money!" You can feel the looks and the resentment like heat on the back of your neck.
And of course, it's not my place. I'm just visiting and chilling with mom and her friends. But I get it. It's their space most of the time, and here I am snatching their coins. I would never deign to hang out there week after week - even if I lived in the area. It would be unusual to even want to.
The more these demographic issues persist - and they're getting worse over time - the more I find my own presence just kind of unusual.
It's a little generational episode of Westworld with Delores glaring, "The bingo hall wasn't meant for you."
Celerity
(43,411 posts)old as dirt
(1,972 posts)Although I was too old at the time (that is, I was older than 26), I had violated it for counseling, aiding and abetting in draft registration resistance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon_Amendment
The 1982 Solomon Amendment was an amendment to a Federal education bill that made compliance with the registration requirements of the Military Selective Service Act a condition of eligibility for Federal financial aid for higher education, and required applicants for aid to certify their compliance with any applicable Selective Service registration requirement. Rep. Solomon subsequently sponsored other "Solomon Amendments" making Selective Service registration a condition of Federal employment and various other Federal programs.
History
In the 1980s, U.S. Representative Gerald B. H. Solomon (R-NY) sponsored a series of "Solomon amendments" that conditioned eligibility for federal financial aid for higher education and job training, federal government employment, and other federal benefits on certification by the individual that they either had registered with the Selective Service System or were not required to register. One of these laws was successfully challenged in federal District Court in 1983 on the grounds that it determined guilt and inflicted punishment without judicial process. The Supreme Court reversed that decision, in part because the plaintiffs were still young enough to "cure" their ineligibility by registering, in Selective Service System v. Minnesota Public Interest Research Group (1984). In 2012, the Supreme Court heard a case involving a challenge to the Solomon Amendment requiring Selective Service registration as a condition of Federal employment, Elgin et al. v. U.S. Treasury et al., 567 U.S. 1. The named plaintiff in that case had been fired from a Federal job he had held for many years, after he was too old to be allowed to register. The Supreme Court decided the case on procedural grounds, and has yet to rule on the Constitutionality of the Solomon Amendments as applied to men over age 26. "From 1982 to 2021, males were required to register with Selective Service System in order to receive Title IV Federal student aid.... This requirement was eliminated by the FY 2021 Consolidated Appropriations Act.... [F]ailing to register with Selective Service System no longer impacts students eligibility for Title IV student aid. Effective July 1, 2022, applicants will no longer be able to register with Selective Service System via the FAFSA."
The Solomon Amendment relating to ROTC and military recruiting was passed in 1996. It denied federal grants from 8 federal agencies, including research grants, to colleges and universities that prohibit or prevent the U.S. armed forces from recruiting on campus in a manner "at least equal in quality and scope" as other employers or that fail to allow for ROTC programs as part of their academic programs subject to the same standards as other academic programs. It was recodified in 1999. The law was amended in 2002 to cover recruiting by the Coast Guard as part of the Department of Homeland Security. It also provides an exception for any institution with "a longstanding policy of pacifism based on historical religious affiliation."
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Duppers
(28,125 posts)Last edited Mon Jan 30, 2023, 05:53 AM - Edit history (2)
rainy
(6,092 posts)who made it way more expensive!
Demobrat
(8,982 posts)but I am all for forgiving interest, fees, and penalties, and charging very minimal interest, like 1/2%, going forward. Nobody should make payments that amount to interest only and wind up never reducing their balance. Thats just criminal.
That said, its easy to imagine why republicans dont want loan forgiveness. It doesnt benefit the mouth breathers, and the ones in government dont want Democrats to get credit for helping anyone.
Cheezoholic
(2,026 posts)detractors need to can it.
SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)some sort of public service commensurate with the amount of student loans forgiven, or are you saying all debt should be forgiven with no strings attached?
I've avoided the student debt "wars" on DU for personal reasons. Now I'm trying to get a feel for what younger DUers' have in mind. Thank you. 😊
wishstar
(5,270 posts)They think stopping the program will turn people against Biden when he can't succeed in getting their loans forgiven.
Backseat Driver
(4,393 posts)Neither of our vet dads used their GI benefits post-WWII? One never made it through HS. And none of them sacrificed for the sake of their kids or grandkids college experience. Why didn't TPTB support parents by making sure the parents had jobs with which to repay those school loans? We had a plan, but, like in the commercial, Mayhem RePukes stepped into the picture. Oh sorry, I know, we had daughters? (misogny) or perhaps they were rescuing us poor white folks from wonderful homes in the wrong zip code that had too much POC diversity? (racism)
DH relates how one Xmas, his dad got a brand new tool and dad passed down his old one with, "You can have the one in the garage. I guess it's good enough for you."
Me: "I'll pay for one year or you can get married." Take your choice, they said! My dad was very sick. We had good healthcare insurance, but he could have died and I had two younger siblings ages 17 and 15 and a mom without so much as a GED. We waited until after his Army service during the height of the Viet Nam conflict and married in 1970; we waited and didn't have a family until 1975. Dad got better as soon as I left, they all joked! After the sale of a condo and a second home, I paid out of pocket for all the education I could get, a community college AS with daytime classes and a FT job at night, but without debt. Both my girls got their BS degree. Both have pretty good jobs sort of related to their degree studies. I'm so proud of both of them. We, however, will never recover our losses of savings, jobs and home or resolve the work-related issues left in so many questions why? in our heads all these intervening years. Damn those GOP years all to hell forever!
Some guy playing a popular PlayStation shooting video game, who never even had to worry about "the draft" recently actually had the nerve to tell my still single daughter, re marriage material, that she brought NOTHING to the table. Go p*ss off!
Groundhawg
(556 posts)I signed a loan contract to further my education, and I'm responsible in every metric to honor my promise to repay
BWdem4life
(1,675 posts)How many Republicans had their PPP loans forgiven?
How many Republicans have had their debts discharged through bankruptcy?
Yet we saddle our young with crippling debt to obtain education we should be providing at no cost like every other country. For the further enrichment of bankers.
Not all loans are created equal.
mitch96
(13,912 posts)Why the people MAKING and administrating the loans... Lots of money to be made...YMMV
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BWdem4life
(1,675 posts)When people personally benefit from Democratic legislation and executive orders, they are more likely to vote Democratic.