One idea to combat police violence

[KS Toronado]

Don't know what the companies are called (HR people will know) but they can design tests that give employers
an idea of a potential employee's weak & strong points. These tests have various random questions requiring
either a true/false, yes/no, or a multiple choice answer. You'll be instructed to answer as quickly as possible and
try not to over think questions as the test is timed and not answering everything affects the scores.

To keep it simple so everybody understands, a law enforcement agency will ask for a test to identify how a
potential cop might respond in a given situation. Will it be A, B, C, D, or E?

A, LOL & smiling...... what the hell you kids doing? Better clean up your mess before your parents see this.

B. Stern..... requires the kids to clean up their mess instantly while he watches. Mentions possibly calling the parents.

C. Job description requirements........writes them a ticket, or takes them to jail, gives them one phone call.

D. Upset........ grabs the kids by their shirt collars, slaps them and roughs them up. Takes them to jail.

E. Pissed off........beats the crap out of them, waits while getting their story believable, then calls for a ambulance.

Identifying how an individual might react in simple non life threatening situations could keep a lot of people out
of uniform who for public safety shouldn't be in one. Give it to current officers and all the Ds & Es get desk jobs.

Basically a test that would look for personality traits we don't want in a police officer to include but not limited to
Aggressiveness, Revengeful, Short Fuse, Pay Back Attitude, Self-Centeredness, Narcissist, I'm better than you, etc

Could have something similar for gun buyers, could reduce mass shootings.

[ColinC]

1. Meant guarantee they won't use these tests to find the worst people

[usonian]

2. Police are already given psychological tests, for what it's worth, or not.

I posted this earlier:
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=212659
(snip)
Here's an article on psychological screening for cops.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/cop-doc/201709/pre-employment-psychological-screening-cops

I read some business books in the past which said that in any organization, there's an official culture and a real one, the one you hear of in the cafeteria, by observing what CEO sets as acceptable behavior and what isn't. Don't forget, the word oversight has two opposite meanings.

[KS Toronado]

6. Was unaware some police departments

required talking to a psychologist, probably happens mostly in larger cities.

[usonian]

7. As I noted, it doesn't seem effective.

County Sheriffs advertising for new hires on the radio say "99% of cops are outstanding citizens".
Big help that is.

That's like saying in a grocery store that 1 item in 100 is poisoned.
Or that 1 auto in 100 will go up in flames spontaneously.

I don't like those odds.

[haele]

12. Fish always rots from the head down.

In problematic police departments, they need total restructuring down to the sargents. One bully Sargent, one corrupt Captain, and the whole bunch starts to go because, well, shit. It doesn't matter.

That whole "one bad apple" means if one bad cop is allowed to continue to be unprofessional, the whole station house rots.

And compliance is modeled as well as enforced from the top.

Focusing on the recruits and rookies doesn't fix the problem. Maintaining a national public database on all cops will do more to help. But of course, the police "Brotherhoods" won't allow that to happen.

Haele

[RainCaster]

3. If you really want to stop police violence, make police unions carry libility insurance

If the union local is held legally responsible for the actions of each member, instead of the city government, THEN you will see change begin.

[republianmushroom]

4. like this, we have learned that money talks.

[KS Toronado]

5. Could also require dash cams on 24/7

Body cams on whenever talking to anybody, found guilty of not having it on is 4 weeks off without pay.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

8. Abolishing the police would eliminate a lot of the guesswork inherent in your example.

[mopinko]

9. drug test them. willing to bet a couple benjamins that many of these incidents are roid rage.

bell went off the other day watching velshi and paul butler. the relative size of these goons was mentioned, and butler said- that’s how you get on these units.
others would know better than i, but pretty sure it takes a lot of time and hard work to be that buff. how many of these cops you think are willing to do that work when they could take a pill?
more than a couple of these ‘muscle drinks’ have been found to have steriods, too.

cops should get the same kind of random drug testing as pilots, truckers and railroad workers.
and abs a full screen after any use of force incident.

[Zeitghost]

10. That's not how steroids work

I'm not against testing for them. But you still have to put in the work to build muscle. Steroids help the body rebuild after a workout which reduces recovery time, allowing you to work out more often and gain muscle faster.

[mopinko]

11. no, i know that.

matter of how much work. i’m sure they all enjoy some gym time. but i’m guessin shortcuts are welcome.

[Irish_Dem]

13. Psychologists have developed very sophisticated, well researched tests for personnel selection

in the US military, government and industry.

Test construction research has been going on since WWII when psychologists quickly and successfully matched
military recruits to jobs after Pearl Harbor.

Each question in a test is carefully researched for years and even decades to determine validity.

Does each question in a test accurately predict the best candidate for the job based on specific job requirements?

For example, a test item can have face validity, where the item looks like it might correctly identify
the best candidate for the job, but often research shows this is not the case.

Tests must have strong research behind east test question, if not, these tests end up being
subject to lawsuits.

We also have very accurate and valid personalty tests that will identify those who are dangerous,
sociopathic, poor impulsive control, angry and inability to follow the law, etc.

There are also lie scales on tests so we know with great accuracy when someone is lying while taking the test.

The problem is do police departments want to use these tests?
How are they used? Who administers them? Who interprets them?

Police departments set the basic criteria which tests are asked to identify.
These characteristics may not be what the community wants to see in a police officer.

Even if you select an appropriate candidate for the job, what happens with formal and informal training after hire?
What is the occupational culture which may influence the individual?