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babylonsister

(171,092 posts)
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 10:56 AM Feb 2023

FBI Agents Are Searching Biden's Home

When and where does this nonsense stop? And who authorized this?

https://politicalwire.com/2023/02/01/fbi-agents-are-searching-bidens-home/

FBI Agents Are Searching Biden’s Home
February 1, 2023 at 9:49 am EST By Taegan Goddard

FBI agents are searching the Rehoboth, Delaware, beach home of President Joe Biden, NBC News reports.
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FBI Agents Are Searching Biden's Home (Original Post) babylonsister Feb 2023 OP
Meanwhile, there are STILL two or three homes of tfg's that have NEVER been searched. Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #1
What about Pence?........... Lovie777 Feb 2023 #2
From President Biden's attorney LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #3
Gym Jordan's screaming. Chipper Chat Feb 2023 #4
it's BREAKING NEWS on M$NBC spanone Feb 2023 #5
an aggressive special council would do that...... getagrip_already Feb 2023 #6
It's by CONSENT, obviously the reasons have independent folks make sure. Alexander Of Assyria Feb 2023 #9
Requested Search bpj62 Feb 2023 #21
Fair unuf, but requested by who (or is it whom)? getagrip_already Feb 2023 #23
I could be wrong, but I think they are setting up FalloutShelter Feb 2023 #7
The contrast is startling, when warrants have to be issued again for tRump, even the corporate media Alexander Of Assyria Feb 2023 #11
Magats don't play that way. gab13by13 Feb 2023 #13
Planned search, invited by the President EarlG Feb 2023 #8
Why hasn't the FBI searched all of Trump's properties? Marius25 Feb 2023 #10
Because tRump won't consent, setting up another year long legal battle? Alexander Of Assyria Feb 2023 #12
The FBI needs probable cause for warrant, gab13by13 Feb 2023 #14
+1 onenote Feb 2023 #18
How do you know there is no probable cause? Kingofalldems Feb 2023 #19
Mere suspicion isn't probable cause onenote Feb 2023 #32
Why wouldn't finding classified documents at his Florida resident be probable cause? spanone Feb 2023 #20
Good point, I would issue a follow up warrant to search all residences. Alexander Of Assyria Feb 2023 #44
um, he's on the verge of getting indicted for his obstruction bigtree Feb 2023 #28
Spring Of 2045? nt SoCalDavidS Feb 2023 #34
grand juries have been gathering evidence all year in several DOJ investigations bigtree Feb 2023 #37
end of spring 2045, right as he turns 99yo nt Celerity Feb 2023 #43
Hanging first, then collect evidence, indict, trial, appeals..all later! That's Twitter rule of Awe! Alexander Of Assyria Feb 2023 #45
I believe this was with Biden's cooperation. The problem isn't the DOJ searching this home, the JohnSJ Feb 2023 #15
When will the FBI search W's home? sarcasmo Feb 2023 #16
Didn't they search his home last week? GoCubsGo Feb 2023 #17
The previous search was of his Wilmington residence. This is of his vacation home. onenote Feb 2023 #31
consensual search, probably a good idea to put some finality on the collection of errant docs bigtree Feb 2023 #22
FBI vs State Department classified Johnny2X2X Feb 2023 #24
I hate the slow drip drip news of these classified Docs RationalD Feb 2023 #25
With Biden's full cooperation I'm sure. Elessar Zappa Feb 2023 #26
So you can search a sitting president's home? malaise Feb 2023 #27
The whole thing and the timing strikes me as suspicious. triron Feb 2023 #29
If he voluntarily agrees to a search, of course. onenote Feb 2023 #30
I'm sure Biden agreed to it. Elessar Zappa Feb 2023 #33
+1, but you can't indict one or claim they could be part of a crime. Like WTF DOJ?! uponit7771 Feb 2023 #38
Just dotting the i's and crossing the t's. Emile Feb 2023 #35
Does Joe have any other homes left to be searched? Bonx Feb 2023 #36
Who's watching the FBI? MagickMuffin Feb 2023 #39
No additional documents were found. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2023 #40
From President Biden's attorney LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #41
Clowns ecstatic Feb 2023 #42

getagrip_already

(14,837 posts)
6. an aggressive special council would do that......
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 11:02 AM
Feb 2023

Previous searches were likely done by Biden's lawyers. An aagressive sc would want the fbi to take a broader look.

And if they find any evidence of "other" crimes, they will pursue those, no matter how trivial. Garland really didn't think this through. He must not remember ken starr.

Is he in his right mind?

Look, the fbi could search ANYONE's home and find evidence of a crime. I don't care who you are, you have evidence of something illegal, even if you are unaware of it, in your possession. It might just be a piece of art you bought decades ago but which now falls under some antiquities act.

This investigation is about to spread.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
9. It's by CONSENT, obviously the reasons have independent folks make sure.
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 11:06 AM
Feb 2023

As opposed to search by WARRANT, STALL by deploying your appointed judicial servants.

I see this as a good thing, a lenses for the public to easily contrast and compare Biden v. Trump handling of documents…night and day, good and evil.

bpj62

(999 posts)
21. Requested Search
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 11:19 AM
Feb 2023

The was a requested search and no warrant was involved. Also the scope of the search will be limited to documents, not to furniture or other objects in the house. Lastly the word is Counsel not Council.

getagrip_already

(14,837 posts)
23. Fair unuf, but requested by who (or is it whom)?
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 11:23 AM
Feb 2023

Did the SC request it? The link doesn't say it was even requested so no source to fall back upon.

FalloutShelter

(11,878 posts)
7. I could be wrong, but I think they are setting up
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 11:03 AM
Feb 2023

to go into Bedminster and Trump Tower.

Biden allowed a search of ALL properties.... now you.



 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
11. The contrast is startling, when warrants have to be issued again for tRump, even the corporate media
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 11:06 AM
Feb 2023

surrender the both siderism.

gab13by13

(21,405 posts)
13. Magats don't play that way.
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 11:07 AM
Feb 2023

President Biden agreed, the twice impeached disgraced ex president will never agree to searches.

EarlG

(21,966 posts)
8. Planned search, invited by the President
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 11:03 AM
Feb 2023

Indicating that Joe Biden wants to take this seriously and is complying with and assisting law enforcement every step of the way.

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
10. Why hasn't the FBI searched all of Trump's properties?
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 11:06 AM
Feb 2023

This is starting to feel like a setup and a continuation of the coup plot.

onenote

(42,761 posts)
32. Mere suspicion isn't probable cause
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 11:55 AM
Feb 2023

The probable cause to search Mar-a-Lago was based on testimony from sources within Mar-A-Lago. At this point, unless there is actual evidence to support a search of the other properties, there is no probable cause.

To give a pedestrian example: if you are caught out and about in possession of a controlled substance, that fact, in and of itself, may give rise to a suspicion that you have more drugs in your home, but it won't create probable cause for a search of your home.

spanone

(135,875 posts)
20. Why wouldn't finding classified documents at his Florida resident be probable cause?
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 11:18 AM
Feb 2023

Especially considering they suspect he has more documents?

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
28. um, he's on the verge of getting indicted for his obstruction
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 11:46 AM
Feb 2023

...and whatever else they find to charge him with.

2 people who searched Trump properties for classified documents testified before federal grand jury in Mar-a-Lago probe
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/30/politics/mar-a-lago-grand-jury-probe-trump-documents/index.html

Former federal prosecutor Cynthia Alksne, who works as an MSNBC legal analyst, suggested that could soon change. She said she believes the DOJ could indict the former president "soon," saying she hopes this would happen before the spring.

"Well, I would guess that one is going to come pretty soon. I mean, let's face it—that's an easy prosecution," she said. "You stole the documents. We're asking for them. We ask you 'pretty please.' You said 'no.' You lied about it. You move them, and then we found them."

Alksne said the case could likely be prosecuted "at any time," but the DOJ still has work to do to craft its strongest argument, including fully identifying obstruction allegedly committed by Trump's team.

"They also have to figure out, now that they have the documents, were they shared with anybody and what exactly happened with them," Alksne added. "And that may take some time."
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-indictment-mar-lago-documents-coming-pretty-soon-attorney-1772072

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
37. grand juries have been gathering evidence all year in several DOJ investigations
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 01:18 PM
Feb 2023

...so maybe this poster can tell us why they believe those grand juries won't make a decision to indict.

That process, which revealed a flurry of subpoenas to top Trump officials at the end of last year, isn't going to be indefinite. And unless they have some info or evidence that the grand juries (which are the primary tool prosecutors use to determine whether to move to court) have either finished their inquiries or made decisions on whether to indict, this poster has nothing to back this nonsense about "Spring of '45.'

Celerity

(43,501 posts)
43. end of spring 2045, right as he turns 99yo nt
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 07:31 AM
Feb 2023

Trump: Born: June 14, 1946

Last day of Spring 2045: June 19

JohnSJ

(92,397 posts)
15. I believe this was with Biden's cooperation. The problem isn't the DOJ searching this home, the
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 11:11 AM
Feb 2023

problem is the F**KING SO-CALLED "MEDIA", implying with innuendos and hyperbole that this has nefarious implications.

Even Bloomberg is pushing the "concerning situation"

I am disgusted with what the country has become.

We are where we are today because too many so-called people didn't vote, or voted third party in 2016, because the LIE was pushed that there is no difference between the two parties.

A woman's right to choose, the environment, civil rights, workers rights, health care, social security, medicare, etc. were and are at stake, and if we don't come out in mass and vote, we will lose our democracy



bigtree

(86,005 posts)
22. consensual search, probably a good idea to put some finality on the collection of errant docs
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 11:21 AM
Feb 2023

...Trump's was searched under a warrant that needed to show to a judge that a crime had likely been committed before being issued.

Trump's facing legal jeopardy, Biden's in the end game of the piffle of controversy over his docs recovered. And remember, those outstanding locations of Trump's are still potentially subject to other warrants being obtained.

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
24. FBI vs State Department classified
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 11:25 AM
Feb 2023

Reminder that we learned that the FBI has a very different definition of what is classified than what the State Department or the DoD might have.

 

RationalD

(11 posts)
25. I hate the slow drip drip news of these classified Docs
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 11:35 AM
Feb 2023

If there are more docs found the media is going to harp on this.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
27. So you can search a sitting president's home?
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 11:41 AM
Feb 2023

How many of these agents are MAGAts.
Asking for a friend.

triron

(22,020 posts)
29. The whole thing and the timing strikes me as suspicious.
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 11:49 AM
Feb 2023

Losing what little trust I still had for garland. This is messed up.

MagickMuffin

(15,952 posts)
39. Who's watching the FBI?
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 01:39 PM
Feb 2023


Certainly someone is watching them closely. Ya never know what loyalty they still hold for the Xpres.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,192 posts)
40. No additional documents were found.
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 02:05 PM
Feb 2023
FBI searches Joe Biden's Delaware beach house as part of classified documents investigation

The FBI searched President Joe Biden's Delaware beach home Wednesday, as part of an ongoing inquiry into the handling of classified documents, though no additional records bearing government classification were recovered.

Biden attorney Bob Bauer confirmed the action, saying the Rehoboth Beach search was planned with "the president's full support and cooperation" and lasted three and half hours, concluding at noon.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fbi-searches-joe-biden-s-delaware-beach-house-as-part-of-classified-documents-investigation/ar-AA16ZscH

ecstatic

(32,731 posts)
42. Clowns
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 03:22 AM
Feb 2023

All of this for files that are were not even missed. I'm sorry, I know some people will still make excuses for Garland and the FBI, but this is disgusting. The contrast of how Democrats are treated versus republicans is disgusting. The FBI is working overtime to kiss republican ass but it's not going to get them very far. They are literally participating in their own demise and potentially the demise of our democracy because pretty soon, we're going to have Democrats who want the FBI shut down just as much as the refugs do. And when the refugs get their way and all of the "inconvenient" government agencies are dismantled, then what? What's the plan then?

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