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RandySF

(58,874 posts)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:32 AM Nov 2012

"The billionaire donors are livid."

Many of the lightning bolts were aimed at none other than Karl Rove, the former Bush administration political genius who oversaw the deployment of nearly $400 million in campaign spending through outside groups American Crossroads and Crossroads GPS toward the presidential race and toward numerous Senate and House races.

"The billionaire donors I hear are livid," one Republican operative told The Huffington Post. "There is some holy hell to pay. Karl Rove has a lot of explaining to do … I don't know how you tell your donors that we spent $390 million and got nothing."

Rove even suffered the indignity of being insulted on Twitter by the blustery Donald Trump, who had attended Romney's election night party here on Tuesday night, but left early after it was clear that Obama had won a second term.

"Congrats to @KarlRove on blowing $400 million this cycle. Every race @CrossroadsGPS ran ads in, the Republicans lost. What a waste of money," Trump tweeted, inaccurately.


Crossroads GPS spent money in the Nevada Senate race, where Republican incumbent Sen. Dean Heller defeated Democratic challenger Shelley Berkley. The group also spent money on numerous House races.

Rove was forced to defend his group's expenditures live on Fox News on Tuesday night, and will hold a briefing with top donors on Thursday, according to Politico.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/republican-reckoning-defeat_n_2090510.html
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"The billionaire donors are livid." (Original Post) RandySF Nov 2012 OP
oh god please let someone videotape that briefing grasswire Nov 2012 #1
+1 - I still hope someone will get Rush talking about duping his listeners some day too Lucinda Nov 2012 #16
Can't wait Mme. Defarge Nov 2012 #28
they should be used to the "crapshoot" nature of the our system by now.... pepperbear Nov 2012 #29
Except they weren't gambling in their minds lunatica Nov 2012 #68
+1000 mac56 Nov 2012 #70
good point. pepperbear Nov 2012 #75
+1,000 malaise Nov 2012 #65
I wish I was a fly on the wall when he has that meeting with them. RagAss Nov 2012 #2
I'm glad I'm not Karl. Lugnut Nov 2012 #26
Or a serving person with a liberalhistorian Nov 2012 #81
Maybe those billionaires will give Rove a mafia burial at sea. nt bluestate10 Nov 2012 #3
I can't condone that, sorry. BouzoukiKing Nov 2012 #30
They should also blame themselves right along with KKKarl. nc4bo Nov 2012 #4
yes, they've got even wealthier because of little boot's obscene tax cuts newspeak Nov 2012 #85
Little Boot's Tax Cuts Changed My Family HangOnKids Nov 2012 #91
Eventually PatSeg Nov 2012 #5
They spent $390 million -AND- are now going to have to pay higher taxes! Barack_America Nov 2012 #6
$390 Million Down Norquist's Bathtub! Cha Nov 2012 #25
suckers! eShirl Nov 2012 #51
And they're the ones who insist they're the most fiscally responsible... calimary Nov 2012 #73
You'd think it would have been cheaper liberalhistorian Nov 2012 #82
Actually, I didn't think of it in those terms, but closeupready Nov 2012 #89
People have wound up in oil drums hifiguy Nov 2012 #7
I love that the billionaires are now out in the open about controlling the GOP... LOL! reformist2 Nov 2012 #8
Good point! CoffeeCat Nov 2012 #14
unfortunately now argiel1234 Nov 2012 #32
Unfortunate, how? n/t Turborama Nov 2012 #45
+1. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2012 #66
Well, Blue Palasky Nov 2012 #47
I don't think they'll be targets for *retribution* so much as magical thyme Nov 2012 #72
What did they expect? caseymoz Nov 2012 #46
Yep. Romney was an Edsel. reformist2 Nov 2012 #69
Plutocrats VS We The People Cha Nov 2012 #27
In the end, the turd did not blossom... n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #9
Sounds like one of our super secret DU codes.... nc4bo Nov 2012 #11
My Feel-Good thread of the night spiderpig Nov 2012 #10
So I reckon around Friday we will... TTUBatfan2008 Nov 2012 #12
Don't tease us Canuckistanian Nov 2012 #37
I'm glad twice. lpbk2713 Nov 2012 #13
Something strange is going to Wellstone ruled Nov 2012 #15
So sad. Maybe we could hold a bake sale for them or something. Prometheus Bound Nov 2012 #17
... Jamastiene Nov 2012 #42
So don't donate to Republicans next time. Mariana Nov 2012 #18
Assholes think they can buy anything BainsBane Nov 2012 #19
He can always sell his body to science tomm2thumbs Nov 2012 #20
Rove was a big winner... orwell Nov 2012 #21
I bet he put as much as 25% in his pocket, and I bet they want it back! Hehe! ToxMarz Nov 2012 #34
After this fiasco... Zambero Nov 2012 #22
Yeah, somebody/somebodies were being an Ostrich! Cha Nov 2012 #23
Words are unnecessary fujiyama Nov 2012 #24
Karl! Stay away from Back Hoe's,Airplanes & easychoice Nov 2012 #31
But the skim is in, isn't it Karl? DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #33
Oh, God Canuckistanian Nov 2012 #35
Fuck them Incitatus Nov 2012 #36
Rachel said tonight Canuckistanian Nov 2012 #38
It would have been easier to pay your fucking taxes, you blowhards. Zoeisright Nov 2012 #39
+1000! SammyWinstonJack Nov 2012 #67
+1001. closeupready Nov 2012 #90
The Very Rich have an underbelly of goons & thugs they use to protect & collect on their investments NBachers Nov 2012 #40
KKKarl could probably use some donations of new Undaroos right about now TXDemoGal Nov 2012 #59
Dead man walking. I actually feel sorry for him. DRoseDARs Nov 2012 #41
It wasn't just Karl Rove, Romney was a horrible candidate. lexw Nov 2012 #43
Oh, how the mighty have fallen. Jamastiene Nov 2012 #44
So how many votes did they steal in vain? Mopar151 Nov 2012 #48
This might just make them re-consider Citizens United. caseymoz Nov 2012 #49
I hope... DirtyDawg Nov 2012 #50
He'll Be Back! Lettusgetogether Nov 2012 #52
But he only knows one method. And it's failed him in 06, 08, (10?) & 12 SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2012 #55
I doubt they're all that worried. They will not be rolling over any time soon. gtar100 Nov 2012 #53
There's one upside of Citizens United: It let these rich fucks waste $400 million for nothing. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #54
The mob used to make an example out of people who lost their money geomon666 Nov 2012 #56
Rove in Deep Doo-Doo queentonic Nov 2012 #57
Sucks to be Rove better take them some consolation gifts. How about some RR Tshirts Raine Nov 2012 #58
"Leave the gun, bring the cannoli." Monk06 Nov 2012 #60
Yeah, I'm weeping as I type this. nt DCKit Nov 2012 #61
The billionaire donors are LIVER K-Matt Nov 2012 #62
THIS IS MY POST IN MAINE FORUM luckyleftyme2 Nov 2012 #63
Methinks today will not be good day for Turdblossom tavalon Nov 2012 #64
Trump, the genius ... GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #71
When you go to bed with a turd blossom randr Nov 2012 #74
Bwahahhahaha! Bwahahahhaha! Bwahahahaha! Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #76
A $390 mil ass kicking... 4_TN_TITANS Nov 2012 #77
Trump probably a big donor demo dutch Nov 2012 #78
Thanks for making my day lpbk2713 Nov 2012 #79
That wasn't Rove questioning Fox's call on Ohio mick063 Nov 2012 #80
Hey, they played chicken with reality. And lost. Citizens United vs. Reality. Ha...Ha! Gregorian Nov 2012 #83
And congratulations to broadcast media, which lapped up a huge proportion of that $$$$ librechik Nov 2012 #84
This message was self-deleted by its author closeupready Nov 2012 #86
Separately, I have to confess that closeupready Nov 2012 #87
Occupy Zorra Nov 2012 #88
Fuck 'em -- let 'em weep on their giant piles of hoarded money Blue Owl Nov 2012 #92

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
16. +1 - I still hope someone will get Rush talking about duping his listeners some day too
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:53 AM
Nov 2012

But yep, Rove on video trying to explain this election away would be awesome.

pepperbear

(5,648 posts)
29. they should be used to the "crapshoot" nature of the our system by now....
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:27 AM
Nov 2012

seeing as how they've gambled before and won....and lost.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
68. Except they weren't gambling in their minds
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:19 AM
Nov 2012

When you buy everything in sight you're definitely 'hedging' your bets. You're not letting chance get a chance.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
4. They should also blame themselves right along with KKKarl.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:37 AM
Nov 2012

They were the ones who thought they could buy our government with their filthy money and evil, selfish intentions.

Wonder how that Adelson investigation's humming along?

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
85. yes, they've got even wealthier because of little boot's obscene tax cuts
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:19 PM
Nov 2012

they want more and more; while the people have less labor rights and must take shittier jobs without benefits. they want it all--if they funneled money in and didn't get a return; i'm glad. because, that means the MAJORITY of the american people may still have some protection and representation from these goons.

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
91. Little Boot's Tax Cuts Changed My Family
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:42 PM
Nov 2012

Those on the receiving end became total assholes. Hated labor before and now loathe it, Really? They were working stiffs once, but money came into the equation it really fucked things up.

calimary

(81,295 posts)
73. And they're the ones who insist they're the most fiscally responsible...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:24 AM
Nov 2012

Gee, richies - do you always make business deals like that? How is it that you became so successful, with judgment like that? MAN, that's one impressive return-on-investment!



liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
82. You'd think it would have been cheaper
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:07 AM
Nov 2012

to have just paid the damn taxes in the first place, like the rest of us do, lol!

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
89. Actually, I didn't think of it in those terms, but
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:27 PM
Nov 2012

honestly, I do think that's correct.

Oh, well. Not feeling any sorrow for them, either way.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
7. People have wound up in oil drums
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:39 AM
Nov 2012

for scams involving 1/100 of that mountain of cash. Or even less. If I were KKKarl I'd find a damned good excuse to spend about ten years in Thailand or someplace even further away.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
14. Good point!
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:52 AM
Nov 2012

I noticed too that the article included the quote about donors contributing hundreds of millions of dollars and now they'll get nothing.

Wow. Why don't these vampires just come right out and say that they were purchasing our government and our politicians and their votes????

They don't even hide that our government is for sale and that rich people can buy a slice of democracy via campaign contributions.

It's rather sick.

 

argiel1234

(390 posts)
32. unfortunately now
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:55 AM
Nov 2012

those billionaires may be targets

Im certainly not saying its right and I dont condone it

However, they may now be targets for retribution

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
72. I don't think they'll be targets for *retribution* so much as
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:26 AM
Nov 2012

*redistribution* of their ill-gotten gains!

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
46. What did they expect?
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:53 AM
Nov 2012

They were so overconfident. They should have known there was a high chance it would fail, but no, they really thought their money could sell Mitt Romney. My father was Madman, and one thing he told me was there are some products that no amount of advertising could sell.

But the problem goes deeper than just Romney as a candidate. Anyone they had running this year would have been just as impossible a sell. Here's the real problem: who in their right mind would vote for John Galt? The people who rise to leadership in conservatism tend to be liars, thieves, idiots or personality disorders. They're not going to be able to field a candidate anybody would vote for.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
10. My Feel-Good thread of the night
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:47 AM
Nov 2012

Couldn't happen to a more deserving pack of jackals. (No offense to actual jackals.)

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
20. He can always sell his body to science
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:17 AM
Nov 2012

*a. if he believed in science
*b. if they'd pay by the pound (of lies)
*c. if anyone would have it

orwell

(7,773 posts)
21. Rove was a big winner...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:19 AM
Nov 2012

...I'm sure he padded his pockets.

So was Bain Romney cycling Rove/GPS ad money through his Clear Channel radio empire.

It was a classic grift...

ToxMarz

(2,168 posts)
34. I bet he put as much as 25% in his pocket, and I bet they want it back! Hehe!
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:10 AM
Nov 2012

I think only 50% of those types 'non-profit' can legally be spent on "issues and advocacy" the rest for administrative.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
22. After this fiasco...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:20 AM
Nov 2012

how much will they be willing to pony up in 2014? As the saying goes, a fool and his money are soon parted. I'm thinking that, next time around, these Rove-stiffed deep pocket check writing fools will not be quite as hasty to donate to the "cause", thereby recertifying their fool status.

Cha

(297,261 posts)
23. Yeah, somebody/somebodies were being an Ostrich!
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:22 AM
Nov 2012

Just read this article on Politico.. they actually thought they were going to win(isn't that why mitt didn't have a concession speech ready?) They thought they "had the Women Vote"! Again, Really?

Romney supporters point to a series of brash statements made by advisers that seem out of touch with reality in retrospect. Inside the Beltway, Republicans trained their fire on senior Romney advisers like Ed Gillespie and political director Rich Beeson for appearances on last weekend’s Sunday shows. Gillespie said the electoral map was expanding, and Beeson predicted a 300 electoral vote win for Romney.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251234736

The whole article is Chock Full of "Seriously, dude?"!

Thanks for this one, RandySF

Someday Quack is going to insult the Wrong person..

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
36. Fuck them
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:13 AM
Nov 2012

Billionaires don't have shit to bitch about. The working class trying to pay their mortgage and put food on the table for what the billionaire owners pay them, however....

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
39. It would have been easier to pay your fucking taxes, you blowhards.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:20 AM
Nov 2012

I am SO happy about this. Those jackasses wasted their money. Pay your taxes, you cheap brats.

NBachers

(17,115 posts)
40. The Very Rich have an underbelly of goons & thugs they use to protect & collect on their investments
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:22 AM
Nov 2012

Sometimes a little muscle is necessary to recoup money lost or keep people in line.

KKKarl will shit his pants when he finds out what they've got in store for him.

These people don't like themselves being made fools of.

You're walking around with a target on you, Karl

You scammed them for their money

You didn't deliver

You can't hide

TXDemoGal

(59 posts)
59. KKKarl could probably use some donations of new Undaroos right about now
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:11 AM
Nov 2012

Couldn't have happened to a nicer Turd(blossom).

lexw

(804 posts)
43. It wasn't just Karl Rove, Romney was a horrible candidate.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:28 AM
Nov 2012

If that's the best they can do, than so be it.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
44. Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:29 AM
Nov 2012

I know Rove won't be walking along in the streets, incoherently muttering to himself anytime soon, but it is good to see him cornered and asked to explain himself, at the very least. If Trump is pissed off at Rove, he had better get his damn birth certificate out and be ready to provide further documents upon request.

Mopar151

(9,983 posts)
48. So how many votes did they steal in vain?
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:54 AM
Nov 2012

And how much vote theft was thwarted? How badly did the poll blocking in Florida backfire?

And, most importantly - how many people hated those friggin' horrid attack ads? The creepy music, that whiny woman's voice, the messages that have had America screaming at their TV's for the last 2 years?

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
49. This might just make them re-consider Citizens United.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:55 AM
Nov 2012

They've given just huge amounts of money to media companies. Literally, re-distribution the wealth. They might have been better off paying higher taxes.
52. He'll Be Back!
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:03 AM
Nov 2012

He may be bruised but he's not going away as much as I would wish it could be so.
He's a rich man is a much richer crowd, but he'll survive... damn-it!

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,123 posts)
55. But he only knows one method. And it's failed him in 06, 08, (10?) & 12
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:14 AM
Nov 2012

I don't think his efforts made a difference in 2010.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
53. I doubt they're all that worried. They will not be rolling over any time soon.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:08 AM
Nov 2012

No time to rest on our laurels.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
54. There's one upside of Citizens United: It let these rich fucks waste $400 million for nothing.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:08 AM
Nov 2012

Too bad, so sad.

Money CAN'T buy an election when the people are fired up.

queentonic

(243 posts)
57. Rove in Deep Doo-Doo
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:22 AM
Nov 2012

Rove demonstrates that intelligence is not required to be ruthless. His pathetic response to the Ohio election call on Fox indicates he can't think on his feet. Thursday, when he goes before his donors to defend himself, he'll hear the Trump's famous quote: "You're Fired!! Soon his Super Pac will become a mini pac. It's time for Social Security and Medicare to kick in for you Turd Blossom.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
58. Sucks to be Rove better take them some consolation gifts. How about some RR Tshirts
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:35 AM
Nov 2012

that should help take the sting out of spending $390 million and getting nothing.

luckyleftyme2

(3,880 posts)
63. THIS IS MY POST IN MAINE FORUM
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:22 AM
Nov 2012

LIKE ALL OF YOU WE HAD A GREAT INFLUX OF PAC MONEY IN OUR STATE! I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE KICKED "ALEC","HERITAGE" AND OF COURSE ALL THE FRONTS THE KOCH BOYS BILLIONAIRE CLUB HAS BUTT! WE TOOK BOTH THE STATE SENATE AND HOUSE BACK!
BUT BEST OF ALL WE SHOWED THEM THE DIFF. BETWEEN A SILENT MAJORITY AND AN ANGRY MAJORITY!
THIS IS MY LATEST POST IN OUR FORUM
" I noticed the lack of those bold blowhards who believed the crap they were spreading before the election! you know the ones that claimed your thoughts were conjecture and theirs were fact! the ones that had a handful of followers who repeated bunk so often it became fact! hmm well Bruce I accomplished what I set out to do-kick your butt of my tax dollar!And you Charlie to sign a pledge to keep grid-lock in place(see ya)! And BILL you would contradict the safety net that the majority of us seniors depend on to keep our homes ,our dignity and our families till the end!(medicare) good riddance to ya! Oh and for you who still haven't got the message its true we aren't the silent majority ! WE ARE THE MAJORITY AND WE WILL PLAY LIKE YOU DID! SO REMEMBER MOST OF US DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOUR TRASH TALK OR LISTEN TO YOUR WHINING ! ITS NOT CONJECTURE ITS FACT!"
WE NEED TO STAND UP FOR OUR BELIEFS AND INSIST ON THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS TO COMPROMISE-NO MORE GRID LOCK!

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
76. Bwahahhahaha! Bwahahahhaha! Bwahahahaha!
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:29 AM
Nov 2012

Oh, I love this. How I love this!

The Republican bitch makers are bitching!

4_TN_TITANS

(2,977 posts)
77. A $390 mil ass kicking...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:32 AM
Nov 2012

sucks to be him. He had to have thought that the 'fix' was in, but didn't happen.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
79. Thanks for making my day
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:37 AM
Nov 2012



I love knowing they lost their ass in more ways than one. I know Rove
spent heavily on negative ads against Florida Senator Bill Nelson because
I would see several of them every day. Nelson won with no problem.





 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
80. That wasn't Rove questioning Fox's call on Ohio
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:57 AM
Nov 2012

That was Rove begging for his life. Even Kelly was smirking. That smirk seen before the village.stones the lottery loser to death.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
83. Hey, they played chicken with reality. And lost. Citizens United vs. Reality. Ha...Ha!
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:14 PM
Nov 2012

It's refreshing to know that gravity still works. You'd never have known it after 8 years of Bullshit.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
84. And congratulations to broadcast media, which lapped up a huge proportion of that $$$$
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:17 PM
Nov 2012

they are laughing all the way to the bank
Except for PBS--please donate to Big Bird today!!!

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