Satanic Temple opens virtual abortion clinic: "The Samuel Alito's Mom's Satanic Abortion Clinic"

[FelineOverlord]

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[niyad]

1. LOVE IT!!!!!

[WhiskeyGrinder]

2. TST is generally a hot mess when it comes to a lot of issues, including abortion, and that would be

the last place I would access abortion care. Their "abortion ritual" is legally dangerous and a lot of other grassroots organizations are doing better, more effective and more applicable work than TST.

Also, "free abortion care" that costs $90?

[JanMichael]

4. S&H? What are the other "hot mess" issues?

I went to the site and didn't see a huge number of issues.

Are they practicing vivisectionists?

[WhiskeyGrinder]

5. They're not transparent about how they spend the funds they raise, they have lost every legal

fight they've been in, and their antics are confusing to patients. They're a PR grift, nothing more.

Lol $90 for shipping and handling? Come on.

[Celerity]

11. While the cost of the screenings and follow-up calls will be free, the pharmacy's fees will be

around $90, far lower than patients might experience with a brick-and-mortar clinic.

[AZLD4Candidate]

19. Adopting a rescue dog is free. . .the paperwork costs money

Same concept.

[JanMichael]

24. True. Our "free" golden mix was a couple hundred out the door.

A nice no kill shelter too.

In some people's eyes the shelter is up to some skullduggery.

[wackadoo wabbit]

22. Is it the word "satanic" in their name that bothers you?

I've posted about them a couple of times here, and each time there have been people who clutch their pearls because the organization is The Satanic Temple.

The Satanic Temple does good work. That they made abortion an actual sacrament is just brilliant, and I give them much credit for it.

Now they're providing abortion care. This seems like a great thing to me.

Just what is it about them that you dislike?

[WhiskeyGrinder]

27. Lol no. It's the fact that they're grifters putting people in legal danger.

It has a shit record in court. Pretending people can "join up" and partake in the sacrament without legal risk is a garbage move. Increasingly, independent clinics and abortions funds and others who have been doing the work within the movement for years are speaking out against the TST as well. If people want a religious challenge to anti-abortion laws, Jewish cases have a much better legal chance. The TST is simply a stunt. Others have more to say about its leader, as well, beyond the abortion issue.

https://jezebel.com/satanic-temple-abortion-rights-religious-exemption-real-1849073332

https://queersatanic.com/the-satanic-temple-cannot-help-you-get-an-abortion-and-it-does-not-deserve-your-support/

[intheflow]

33. The United Church of Christ is also mounting legal challenges based on their liberal Christianity.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/08/01/florida-abortion-law-religion-desantis/

https://sojo.net/articles/texas-clergy-are-taking-stand-against-new-abortion-law

[Autumn]

32. Dangerous? How so? There is nothing dangerous about the ritual. What is the Satanic Abortion Ritua

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0428/0465/files/Abortion_Ritual_Procedure_061322.pdf?v=1657724339

[WhiskeyGrinder]

34. Implying it's a valid legal defense people can use if they get an abortion and are prosecuted is

dangerous in this legal climate.

[Autumn]

35. It's dangerous for any woman in this legal climate. I'm grateful for any organization

willing to help women with their rights. I believe religious exemptions are a valid defense in this climate. It works for those Christians.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

39. How is telling someone they have a legal protection when it isn't one helping them?

[Autumn]

40. How are they not helping? You can have a virtual visit and get the abortion pills sent to you

in a discreet package. Unless the PO is going to open every package 90 dollars for the pills are one heck of a good bargain.

[UTUSN]

3. K& Big R#5

[Scrivener7]

6. I love these guys. That's awesome!

[Haggard Celine]

16. So do I.

A Satanic abortion clinic!

[onecaliberal]

7. K&R

[republianmushroom]

8. like it

This will implode some christian heads

[Iggo]

9. I'm not even kidding. That's EXACTLY what I would've named it.

[roamer65]

10. Freedom of religion...also freedom FROM religion.

[SergeStorms]

12. I can almost guarantee....

this place will be burned to the ground, shot up, or both within a month.

Christians won't stand for this. Satanic abortion rituals?

I don't believe in the christian's god, and conversely I don't believe this satan stuff either. They can all go to hell as far as I'm concerned.

It's just a publicity stunt, trying to get as much ink as the god-squad.

[TygrBright]

13. Did you miss the "virtual" part? No building to burn. All online, telehealth. n/t

[SergeStorms]

14. There's a server in a building somewhere.

They'll track it down, and if they don't they'll make sure there's a DOS attack or something else to screw with them. They'll dox the members etc.

They won't let this go, you can count on it, virtual or not.

[niyad]

15. What, exactly, do you know about The Satanic Temple? They do a wonderful job

of confronting and exposing christian hypocrisy, using the christians' tools. The Baphomet statue thing was priceless.

[Scrivener7]

29. And the coloring book!

[Whatthe_Firetruck]

17. TST is a bunch...

.... Of atheistic humanists with a performative theater front designed to piss off hypocritical Christians. They take the hysterical 'satan is coming for you' blather and pretend to be that with tongue firmly in cheek.

They are mostly useful to pushback on efforts to put Christianity in preeminence by suing to get whatever benefit the Christianists want for themselves. They may not win a lot, but their suits serves 2 aims. When the Christians is start frothing about it (like prayer in front of city council meetings), reasonable people who might have overlooked the effort are reminded that there are others religions out there and wonder if it's OK for one side, why not for another? Also, in many instances the Christianists back off from the appearance (& reality) of hypocrisy being pointed out, or to close the door to everyone to deny it to TST.

They exist to troll Christofascists in a sensational manner.

[orleans]

18. i kept thinking you've got the wrong idea about the satanic temple

so i googled and went on their website. i don't think it's anything like you imagine it might be. (it's not to be confused anton levey's satanic stuff)

there is a q&a page:
q. do you worship satan?

No, nor do we believe in the existence of Satan or the supernatural. The Satanic Temple believes that religion can, and should, be divorced from superstition. As such, we do not promote a belief in a personal Satan. To embrace the name Satan is to embrace rational inquiry removed from supernaturalism and archaic tradition-based superstitions. Satanists should actively work to hone critical thinking and exercise reasonable agnosticism in all things. Our beliefs must be malleable to the best current scientific understandings of the material world — never the reverse.
https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/faq

there are a lot of q & a and it's pretty interesting.

i remember they started doing after school clubs at schools that were allowing after school christian clubs which i always thought was their way of trying to get the christian clubs out of the schools.

The After School Satan Club does not believe in introducing religion into public schools and will only open a club if other religious groups are operating on campus. ASSC exists to provide a safe and inclusive alternative to the religious clubs that use threats of eternal damnation to convert school children to their belief system. Unlike our counterparts, who publicly measure their success in young children's "professions of faith," the After School Satan Club program focuses on science, critical thinking, creative arts, and good works for the community. While engaged in all of these activities, we want clubgoers to have a good time.

https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/after-school-satan

anyway, the fact that they have figured out a way around this anti-abortion bullshit is pretty fucking great imo.

[SergeStorms]

20. Do you think christians....

are going to find the humor in the satanic temple? No. No, they won't.

I don't have any inside information about them. Actually, I know nothing about them. Never heard of them, but all you have to do is just mention satan, and christians go bat-shit crazy.

I'm just sick to death of the entire god vs. satan bullshit, with each one wanting to obliterate the other.

[orleans]

21. they're not trying to be funny.

they don't want "in god we trust" on the missouri flag
which is what this newsweek article is about
https://www.newsweek.com/satanic-temple-doesnt-believe-satan-they-may-sue-his-name-anyway-1516694

they don't want christian after school groups in public schools

they think women should have the right to control their own bodies

they used "satan" for shock value (according to newsweek)

pretend it's called the LIBERAL temple
b/c they believe in science, not god, not satan, not superstition

(and who cares if christians go bat shit crazy with the mention of satan? big deal, the ones that are going crazy are crazy already. )

and i'm done with this. it's as if you didn't read a thing i posted for you. so, read about it, learn about it or don't. i don't care. and i'm asking myself why the fuck am i defending this organization that i have no affiliation with--to you.

[old as dirt]

23. "The devil makes me laugh"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1218325581

[Scrivener7]

28. Some people are angered by mention of Satan. Some people are angered by

untraditional punctuation Some get quite authoritarian about it.

What they all seem to miss is that the rest of us don't need to care about their opinions.

[niyad]

31. Reminds me, in the opposite direction, of the good little xians who thought Landover

Baptist and Mrs. Betty Bowers were christian, not satire.

[Scrivener7]

26. We need to fight against the current tendency of our country

to be afraid of angering Christians.

That's a lot of the point of the Church of Satan. They point out the hypocrisy of the Christian monolith in our country. They work against the desire of Christians to control Christians and non-Christians alike.

They have nothing to do with Satan.

[niyad]

30. You have never heard of them, know nothing about them, and yet you criticize?

[obamanut2012]

38. lolololololololol

[obamanut2012]

37. The Satanic Temple doesn't believe in Satan, either

Maybe learn about them and the good they have done for women and LGBT+.

[obamanut2012]

36. I have been a card-carrying member of the ST for years now

Terrific org!