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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSteering-wheel of Tesla falls off while driving on highway.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/tesla-owner-says-steering-wheel-detached-while-driving-on-new-jersey-highway?ref=homeThis guy was driving his BRAND-NEW Tesla on the highway when the steering-wheel fell off mid-drive.
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elleng
(130,974 posts)PortTack
(32,778 posts)is also resisting cooperation in the DOT investigations into the "self drive" hype and crashes.
ck4829
(35,077 posts)doc03
(35,348 posts)wheels fall off. they crash themselves into things, limited range, availability of charging stations, the
ability of our power grid to handle the load and will they really save you money when the states tack on
the extra taxes for owning one.
Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)And EVs catch fire a fraction of the frequency that ICE vehicles do. And those fires are less explosive, but they can be trickier to put out. EVs are already safer than ICE vehicles and that safety will only get better. There are millions of EVs on the road already, the vast majority of charging occurs at home during the night off peak hours. I know EV owners who have had them for years and have yet to use a charging station even once.
The grid is undergoing massive improvements (Thanks Biden) over the next decade to handle the added burden of EVs, it's not a problem yet and won't be a problem going forward if we stay on plan. Renewables are a huge part of the solution. And there are massive credits for EVs right now that don't appear to be going anywhere. The price will only come down with more mature production systems too. And EVs are simply easier and less time consuming to build. States will have to come up with ways to offset the revenue lost due to gas taxes.
Teslas have quality issues, they're going to lose market share to the major automakers that have been doing this stuff for several decades. GM, VW, Ford, Toyota, and others are simply lapping Tesla for quality of EVs right now. There are so many great options right now that are better cars for a better price than a Tesla.
doc03
(35,348 posts)I got a notice from AEP a couple days last month to conserve on my electric use and that included at off peak hours. The grid can't even
handle the load without EVs. I do not know of any charging stations anywhere near where I live. Where do you take a Tesla for
service? To me it looks like it will be several years before EVs are practical for most people to buy. If I had an EV and started off on a 600-mile trip tomorrow, how many hours would I be waiting around to get recharged while traveling?
Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)Hours? You might spend an hour or two having lunch while your car charges once on the way there and the way back. If you've got a 250 mile range, stop 75 miles from your destination, stretch your legs, and charge for 20 minutes. Get to the location, and if it's a hotel, or a lot of touristy type places (even malls), charge while you stay and then stop once on the way back.
But heck, how often do you drive 600 miles round trip? Probably been 8 years since I have. If you do make long trips like that several times a year EVs might not be for you yet. People need to ask themselves how often they take long trips honestly, I hear and read people talking about 600 or 1000 mile trips, but then can't answer the last time they drove that far. And that's all going to be a moot point as we go forward anyways as range is going to keep increasing. There will likely be 1000 mile range EVs on the road before the end of the decade. If not by the end of the decade then by 2035. 500 and 600 mile ranges will be common by 2030. There are already 625 mile range ones in production.
You charge in hotel garages, your own garage, shopping malls etc. And you don't have to charge from 0% to 100%. If you're at 15% and are 100 miles from home, just charge to 50% and you'll make it home to your charger in your own garage. And 80-90% of charging happens at home, so it's not like there's a bunch of cars in line at charging stations, most of the EVs on the road might not use a charging station but once every few months. It's not like gas, where you need to fill up every 1 to 2 weeks.
Charging at night, like most users do, isn't a problem right now, and won't be a problem in most of the country. Out West, some states will need to speed up improvements to their grids. And it's not like everyone is buying an EV over the next 2 years, this is happening over the next 10 years and beyond. It's gradual. I think cities where people park their cars on the street or in parking garages might be the areas that need the most help, but we're at least starting the work now.
As far as practical for most people to buy, well, they're aren't available for most buyers right now, in fact we're still 5 years away from the point in the US where new vehicle sales will be close to 50-50 EV/ICE. 6% of new car sales are currently EVs, that's going to climb gradually to maybe 50 by 2028. It's not happening overnight, and that's a good thing to give infrastructure time to grow to meet the needs.
doc03
(35,348 posts)60 MPH, you would have to stop and charge it at least twice wouldn't you? When i go to Florida i go about 600 miles or a little more the first day with some quick bathroom stops and stop at a fast food place for lunch. Well I agree with you at present it may not be practical for most people, maybe 10 years down road.
Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)Depending on the vehicle, you'd stop at least once or twice to charge. A new Tesla would be one stop for 30 minutes for charging, but a lot of other vehicles would need more charging time.
So yeah, the hand full of people who drive 600 miles non stop regularly would probably stick with ICE vehicles unless they can afford a high end Tesla, but for the other 99% of the population, EVs are more than practical.
Curious, we use them too and live in NE Indiana. Why did you get asked to conserve your electric use?
There is a huge push for everyone to start using more electric (instead of natural gas for heating and electric instead of gas) and I'm wondering where the supply will come from. Thoughts?
doc03
(35,348 posts)the same concern about natural gas and the push for electric vehicles. When Obama was president I thought he
pushed for more use of natural gas to discourage use of dirty coal and oil. Apparently there has to be a major inprovement
in the power grid.
Ron Green
(9,822 posts)Your response has nothing to do with the OP; youre just repeating the same talking points weve heard for years from people afraid of letting go of a dirty and harmful thing.
tinrobot
(10,903 posts)But it does seem like you've spent a lot of time reading anti-EV propaganda.
Besides, all cars have steering wheels. A steering wheel falling off is not an EV issue. It's a manufacturer issue.
sir pball
(4,743 posts)BSdetect
(8,998 posts)I call total BS on this.. even with the main nut not fastened the wheel would need to be pulled off - with a lot of force. I know this because on my car even after popping the airbag module off and removing the center bolt, it took a lot of force to get the wheel free.
There is no way that that Tesla even left the factory without the nut installed. Zero chance considering whoever pops in the airbag would have noticed it.
On my wheel, there was a line of yellow paint indicating that someone checked that the bolt was properly installed.
I believe that this person feels some buyers remorse over the latest pricing fiasco and just wanted an easy route to make a case to return his car. He passed the 7-day window and had to come up with something creative.
If this genius thought about it first.. he would have realized that a defect like this would automatically be handled by Tesla and they would ensure that he didnt blow the issue up.
This is no different than that guy in China who was claiming his brakes failed.
tavernier
(12,392 posts)Man apologized to Musk. What did he think hed gain?