Screw AP and College Board. CIE and IB are better. Invest in them

[AZLD4Candidate]

[Dorian Gray]

1. I love IB programs

and am hoping my daughter enters one in high school. (NYC, so there are choices.)

What is CIE?

AP really depends on the individual teachers.

[AZLD4Candidate]

4. Cambridge International Examinations: IGCSE and A-Level.

[Dorian Gray]

7. Ah, yes....

I know A levels and GCSEs. Didn't realize the governing body was CIEs.

New York State has regents exams, and I feel like they're loosely based on this format.

[AZLD4Candidate]

9. I remember those from NY in Upstate.

They are sort of.

Example of CIE Art (IGCSE)

Students are given two months to develop their project for assessment, then have six hours to make it on exam day. No written test, no nothing like "what is one point perspective."

You are two art formatting and the student leads their own project.

In my area, history is all about how to develop interpretation and geography is all about development and sustainability.

[JanMichael]

11. The Geography of Nowhere

In America and many countries it's only about making stuff and building stuff and selling stuff not sustainability so much.

Although the largest ball of yarn in the world is interesting.

Edit: this may be a first for me. My last two posts were in response to something you said. Totally random too. Weird.

Edit2: I just realized what it was. The first was on the thread about the satanic temple with the accompanying freak outs about them and then this one you mentioned geography one of my favorite things.

[Samrob]

2. What is IB and CIE How are they diff from AP?

[Dorian Gray]

3. IB is International Baccalaureate

It's more of a project based programs with a focus on research and analysis. My understanding is that if you are in an IB program, you take a series of classes (so it wouldn't be an IB English/IB History class... all the courses would work in conjunction with one another to develop deeper learning skills).

THey're on par with advanced european standards.

[AZLD4Candidate]

6. IB is Swiss. CIE is British. Both are about the same, but have different methodologies.

[Dorian Gray]

8. IB is popular in

NYC schools now. There are quite a few public and private schools that have embraced the methodology. I don't know any who have emulated CIE as of yet. (Though there is a British International School which may have A levels.)

[AZLD4Candidate]

10. When I finish my 2nd Masters, I'll have IB cert.

I teach CIE and have that cert as well.
I have Arizona teacher cert, which I feel is pretty much meaningless.

Both IB and CIE put state standards and AP to shame without even trying.

[AZLD4Candidate]

5. CIE is Cambridge International Examinations from Uni. of Cambridge

It teams more with pragamatism and PBL, interpretation and synthesis rather than forcing things down a student's throat in a bubble.

AP is considered a joke internationally.

[Samrob]

12. Thanks! Critical thinking vs non-critical thinking, I guess?