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Jamie Gangel @jamiegangel 21mNew: Following Pence team discovery of about 12 classified documents in his home, FBI expected to conduct its own search of home and office w/ Pence full consent.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/02/politics/pence-fbi
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/3841199-fbi-to-search-pences-home-in-indiana-for-more-documents/
Irish_Dem
(47,124 posts)bigtree
(85,998 posts)...what we're left with are these equalizing reports conflating Trump's obstruction with pretty innocuous retention of files by Biden and whatever Pence has done with the ones retained in his storage.
For now, we're left with this muddling which should take a much different tone when any legal jeopardy falls on just Trump.
Irish_Dem
(47,124 posts)Who benefits?
bigtree
(85,998 posts)...I'd say it's not just about giving cover.
News reports sure make it seem like the media wants to cover Trump with the Bidens, though, while giving Pence's even shorter shrift.
Irish_Dem
(47,124 posts)Something is fishy about the whole thing.
I don't trust the FBI.
bigtree
(85,998 posts)...everything I've read says that the searches are consensual, initiated by the Biden lawyers.
Irish_Dem
(47,124 posts)bigtree
(85,998 posts)....you've jumped past several points.
timeline excerpts:
Initially, White House confirmed in early January that roughly 10 documents dating back to the Obama administration were discovered by Mr. Biden's personal lawyers at the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement on Nov. 2, and then disclosed that a "small number" were found in the garage at the president's home in Wilmington after his lawyers searched the locations where files from his vice-presidential office may have been shipped following his tenure in the Obama White House.
Dec. 20: Mr. Biden's personal lawyers tell Lausch that more documents with classification markings were found in the garage at the president's Wilmington home. The documents were among other records from Mr. Biden's tenure as vice president. (Garland announcement, Jan. 12)
The FBI goes to the residence and secures the documents. (Garland announcement, Jan. 12)
Jan. 9: CBS News first reports that roughly 10 documents with classified markings were found at Mr. Biden's vice-presidential office at the Penn Biden Center.
"The documents were not the subject of any previous request or inquiry by the Archives. Since that discovery, the president's personal attorneys have cooperated with the Archives and the Department of Justice in a process to ensure that any Obama-Biden Administration records are appropriately in the possession of the Archives." (Sauber statement, Jan. 9)
...nothing in that timeline about FBI coercion or demands.
Irish_Dem
(47,124 posts)Just out of the blue, they had nothing else to do?
I don't trust the FBI or people around Biden.
He already says he doesn't trust the SS who are guarding him.
I don't trust them either.
bigtree
(85,998 posts)...it wasn't in response to any demand or request.
Richard Sauber, the special counsel looking into Bidens files, suggested Monday that the matter was different, saying the documents the presidents lawyers found were not the subject of any previous request or inquiry by the archives.
Since that discovery, the presidents personal attorneys have cooperated with the archives and the Department of Justice in a process to ensure that any Obama-Biden administration documents are appropriately in the possession of the archives, Sauber said in a statement.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/biden-vice-president-classified_n_63bcae54e4b0ae9de1c0d7ca
Irish_Dem
(47,124 posts)Sorry.
bigtree
(85,998 posts)...Trump clearly obstructed the return of sensitive and classified docs, defying both subpoena and FBI and NA demands.
Pres. Biden did not obstruct the return of docs found mistakenly retained in a locked storage room of his by aides.
Trump is facing legal jeopardy for his actions.
President Biden isn't expected to face any legal consequences for the retention of docs in his personal and office storage, because nothing he did, and nothing associated with the document retention is considered prosecutable.
Describing this piffle as anything else is a deliberate and misleading muddle with Trump's obvious criminal behavior.
Not sorry.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)about the warrant search of his own property. The whole thing probably would have gone unnoticed had he not thrown a public tantrum. We only knew about the Merde a Lardo warrant search because he HE exposed it.
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underthematrix
(5,811 posts)bigtree
(85,998 posts)...I personally think it's suspicious that Pence identified the four boxes as potentially containing files and called a 'friend' lawyer who lives 'nearby' to search them.
I don't see any reason to give anyone in that criminal enterprise Pence was part of any benefit of the doubt.
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)Those feds might think we get excited over something besides mashed potatoes without gravy and the lord!
Brother Buzz
(36,442 posts)To visit ALL of the orange anus's properties and see what turns up.