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AOC INDEED! (Original Post) kpete Feb 2023 OP
She is a She, Brown and not a Xtian, so they hate her and dont need any real reasons. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2023 #1
Not Christian? Not that they need any reasons as you say.. unblock Feb 2023 #2
Wait she is a Catholic? Eliot Rosewater Feb 2023 #3
I heard this said before, I am confused. 1WorldHope Feb 2023 #8
Anyone that believes Jesus is the son of God is Christian? Bluethroughu Feb 2023 #11
What is difference between Protestant and Catholic? StClone Feb 2023 #12
Popes and Kings. Kid Berwyn Feb 2023 #18
What is difference between Protestant and Catholic? Otterdaemmerung Feb 2023 #20
Yeah, that! 👍 1WorldHope Feb 2023 #26
Luther believed in the priesthood of all believers. murielm99 Feb 2023 #27
some are vampires housecat Feb 2023 #24
By definition of the term "Christian", Catholics are Christians. lees1975 Feb 2023 #29
Did Satan Create Catholicism? Trump-Supporting Pastor Robert Jeffress Thinks So keithbvadu2 Feb 2023 #15
Ms. Omar? Or Ms. Ocacio-Cortez? haele Feb 2023 #4
AOC is what i saw in the OP and so I referred to her...but I did not know nor did it matter Eliot Rosewater Feb 2023 #5
Doesn't seem that surprising - she is Hispanic muriel_volestrangler Feb 2023 #6
Yep. calimary Feb 2023 #14
When my father met with the Pope (John Paul) he asked His Holiness when will women be recognized ... FailureToCommunicate Feb 2023 #22
I never liked the second-class-citizen treatment women got. calimary Feb 2023 #23
Heck, i'd be happy just to see a woman priest in my lifetime. soldierant Feb 2023 #25
Same here. calimary Feb 2023 #35
What did you think she was? Polybius Feb 2023 #32
Got her confused in my head with someone in the "squad" who is Muslim, maybe...or Eliot Rosewater Feb 2023 #34
Tweet With Video Here GGoss Feb 2023 #7
AOC just gets better and better. Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2023 #9
That was just fine, fine, fine. Magoo48 Feb 2023 #10
Please post this as its own OP for visibility. niyad Feb 2023 #13
Done GGoss Feb 2023 #19
Tell it! Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2023 #16
AOC gets savaged in many of the Twitter comments PufPuf23 Feb 2023 #17
Also THIS: kpete Feb 2023 #28
Margie summons her very own little hallelujah chorus on this. calimary Feb 2023 #36
Move over, Reverend Al News Junkie Feb 2023 #30
She can handle it! nt Samrob Feb 2023 #31
Indeed! They found a weak spot in our lines Hortensis Feb 2023 #21
Antisemitism shouldn't be OK on either side. Mosby Feb 2023 #33
No. betsuni Feb 2023 #37

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
1. She is a She, Brown and not a Xtian, so they hate her and dont need any real reasons.
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 04:39 PM
Feb 2023

edit


She is a Catholic, I did not know that.

1WorldHope

(686 posts)
8. I heard this said before, I am confused.
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 05:54 PM
Feb 2023

Catholics aren't Christians? They are not Protestants, but they are definitely Christians.

Bluethroughu

(5,172 posts)
11. Anyone that believes Jesus is the son of God is Christian?
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 06:10 PM
Feb 2023

That's what I thought a Christian was...Christ/Jesus?

StClone

(11,684 posts)
12. What is difference between Protestant and Catholic?
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 06:34 PM
Feb 2023

Generally speaking, Martin Luther and other Protestant reformers in the 16th century espoused the belief that salvation is attained only through faith in Jesus and his atoning sacrifice on the cross (sola fide), while Catholicism taught that salvation comes through a combination of faith plus good works

Kid Berwyn

(14,909 posts)
18. Popes and Kings.
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 06:42 PM
Feb 2023

Queens, too. Plus a butt-load of princes and princesses.

Power. And Money, lots of it.

The object is to ensure most all of the real property resides in cough relatively few pockets.

Otterdaemmerung

(73 posts)
20. What is difference between Protestant and Catholic?
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 07:19 PM
Feb 2023

Catholicism is the original Christian "denomination," which traces its lineage back to Peter, whom they regard as the first pope. Closer to reality is that there were several nebulous ideas in the early days of Christianity about what Christian beliefs were supposed to be, and those disputes were largely resolved by the end of the third century CE, with mainstream Christianity -- what we call Catholicism -- emerging from those disputes.

The next major break was in 1054 with the Great Schism between the eastern and western major branches of the Church, over geographic and theological issues. The eastern part would become known as the Eastern Orthodox Church.

As said before, the Protestant Reformation occurred in the early 1500s, with its two most notable proponents being Martin Luther and Henry VIII, over theological and political issues, spurred on by the invention of the printing press.

Yes, Luther popularized sola fide (salvation by faith alone) and sola scriptura (Scripture being the sole rule of faith), despite the fact that he chopped several books out of his own Bible, some of which supported the Catholic view. How convenient.

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
27. Luther believed in the priesthood of all believers.
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 03:36 AM
Feb 2023

There was no special priesthood class that needed to interpret faith for everyone else.

lees1975

(3,861 posts)
29. By definition of the term "Christian", Catholics are Christians.
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 11:04 AM
Feb 2023

The Catholic church's tradition and heritage is connected to the church at Rome, where its influence and size led churches in the western part of the Roman Empire to recognize its bishop as a church authority. Those in the eastern half of the Empire developed around the Antiochian patriarchy, so the Catholic Church and the Orthodox churches are actually the foundational Christian traditions.

AOC has made it clear that she is a woman of faith, and that her Christian faith is at the core of her identity and her politics. I think she's a great example of the kind of balance that was intentionally written into the Constitution's guarantee of religious liberty. She does not impose her beliefs as a means of controlling the behavior and beliefs of people, though they shape her identity. She has integrity, a value that most of her critics sorely lack.

Her expression of her Christian faith is not strict obedience to a human, male hierarchy, but an expression of the core values and principles that form the foundation of Christian practice.

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
15. Did Satan Create Catholicism? Trump-Supporting Pastor Robert Jeffress Thinks So
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 06:39 PM
Feb 2023
https://www.newsweek.com/did-satan-create-catholicism-trump-supporting-pastor-robert-jeffress-thinks-so-690176

Did Satan Create Catholicism? Trump-Supporting Pastor Robert Jeffress Thinks So
By Maria Perez

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Franklin (and Billy) Graham say Mormons are not Christians

According to them, Catholics are not Christians either.

"We need something like what Jerry Falwell did in the 1980s. We need a “moral majority”-made up of Christians, Jews, Mormons, Catholics and many others of faith-to come together to take a stand for our religious freedoms and rights."

https://web.archive.org/web/20150222160421/https://billygraham.org/decision-magazine/october-2012/can-an-evangelical-christian-vote-for-a-mormon/

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haele

(12,660 posts)
4. Ms. Omar? Or Ms. Ocacio-Cortez?
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 05:12 PM
Feb 2023

Doesn't really matter, both are independent, attractive ladies who are not lily-white or GQP.

Haele

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
5. AOC is what i saw in the OP and so I referred to her...but I did not know nor did it matter
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 05:13 PM
Feb 2023

to me what her faith was, but I was surprised to find she is a Catholic.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
6. Doesn't seem that surprising - she is Hispanic
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 05:27 PM
Feb 2023

and you can be progressive and Catholic - you just disagree with some of the church's policy stances.

calimary

(81,321 posts)
14. Yep.
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 06:39 PM
Feb 2023

To me it’s always been “is that what the men say? What did Our Lord say about it?” I don’t follow all those men. Just that One Guy. The Catholic Church has always been “the Men’s Room.” Women have always been in subservient positions. That’s bothered me since I was a little girl.

Still waiting for a woman Pope in my lifetime… (yeah, I know, I know…)

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
22. When my father met with the Pope (John Paul) he asked His Holiness when will women be recognized ...
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 07:30 PM
Feb 2023

for all the important work they do as working Catholics?

His Holiness was not amused, but passed it off as a miss-communication of the translators.

calimary

(81,321 posts)
23. I never liked the second-class-citizen treatment women got.
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 07:53 PM
Feb 2023

HE gets to say Mass. HE gets to administer the sacraments and give Communion. HE gets to rise in the hierarchy.

And SHE - assuming there even is one - gets to MAAAYYYYBE be an altar server. And of course, clean up afterwards.

calimary

(81,321 posts)
35. Same here.
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 05:58 AM
Feb 2023

You just made me remember one of the favorite expressions a friend of mine had, regarding a difficult job. She referred to it as “moving pianos around.”

THIS job, though, feels like upping that comparison: I’d compare it to moving a whole piano factory around (or better yet, moving the entire town where the piano factory is located)!

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
34. Got her confused in my head with someone in the "squad" who is Muslim, maybe...or
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 08:59 PM
Feb 2023

thought she was atheist, am always surprised when someone of obvious intelligence is also religious to any extent.

For instance, and this is very interesting to me; I just found out one of my lifelong friends who who is one of the smartest people I know, highest IQ of anyone I know personally, highest grades in school etc and just yesterday when I mentioned no such thing as God in some conversation he let me know that he still had some belief in a higher power...We went to Catholic school together and I think there's still some of that in him.

I wish there was a god, I am getting older and dying bothers me.

PufPuf23

(8,790 posts)
17. AOC gets savaged in many of the Twitter comments
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 06:41 PM
Feb 2023

BTW I do not have a Twitter account but if one deletes everything to the right of the"?" in the url and reload, can read all comments.

Too much of Congress and too many Americans make me ill and have no clue what to do.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. Indeed! They found a weak spot in our lines
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 07:25 PM
Feb 2023

and attacked there. If they didn’t have that but Jerry Nadler had stepped on a puppy, they’d have gone after him for animal cruelty.

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