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AOC to GOP: Don't tell me you're condemning anti-Semitism when a Republican 'who has talked about Jewish space lasers' gets a plum committee assignment
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/aoc-to-gop-don-t-tell-me-you-re-condemning-anti-semitism-when-a-republican-who-has-talked-about-jewish-space-lasers-gets-a-plum-committee-assignment/ar-AA172MYl
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)edit
She is a Catholic, I did not know that.
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(52,253 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)1WorldHope
(686 posts)Catholics aren't Christians? They are not Protestants, but they are definitely Christians.
Bluethroughu
(5,172 posts)That's what I thought a Christian was...Christ/Jesus?
StClone
(11,684 posts)Generally speaking, Martin Luther and other Protestant reformers in the 16th century espoused the belief that salvation is attained only through faith in Jesus and his atoning sacrifice on the cross (sola fide), while Catholicism taught that salvation comes through a combination of faith plus good works
Kid Berwyn
(14,909 posts)Queens, too. Plus a butt-load of princes and princesses.
Power. And Money, lots of it.
The object is to ensure most all of the real property resides in cough relatively few pockets.
Otterdaemmerung
(73 posts)Catholicism is the original Christian "denomination," which traces its lineage back to Peter, whom they regard as the first pope. Closer to reality is that there were several nebulous ideas in the early days of Christianity about what Christian beliefs were supposed to be, and those disputes were largely resolved by the end of the third century CE, with mainstream Christianity -- what we call Catholicism -- emerging from those disputes.
The next major break was in 1054 with the Great Schism between the eastern and western major branches of the Church, over geographic and theological issues. The eastern part would become known as the Eastern Orthodox Church.
As said before, the Protestant Reformation occurred in the early 1500s, with its two most notable proponents being Martin Luther and Henry VIII, over theological and political issues, spurred on by the invention of the printing press.
Yes, Luther popularized sola fide (salvation by faith alone) and sola scriptura (Scripture being the sole rule of faith), despite the fact that he chopped several books out of his own Bible, some of which supported the Catholic view. How convenient.
1WorldHope
(686 posts)murielm99
(30,745 posts)There was no special priesthood class that needed to interpret faith for everyone else.
housecat
(3,121 posts)lees1975
(3,861 posts)The Catholic church's tradition and heritage is connected to the church at Rome, where its influence and size led churches in the western part of the Roman Empire to recognize its bishop as a church authority. Those in the eastern half of the Empire developed around the Antiochian patriarchy, so the Catholic Church and the Orthodox churches are actually the foundational Christian traditions.
AOC has made it clear that she is a woman of faith, and that her Christian faith is at the core of her identity and her politics. I think she's a great example of the kind of balance that was intentionally written into the Constitution's guarantee of religious liberty. She does not impose her beliefs as a means of controlling the behavior and beliefs of people, though they shape her identity. She has integrity, a value that most of her critics sorely lack.
Her expression of her Christian faith is not strict obedience to a human, male hierarchy, but an expression of the core values and principles that form the foundation of Christian practice.
keithbvadu2
(36,829 posts)Did Satan Create Catholicism? Trump-Supporting Pastor Robert Jeffress Thinks So
By Maria Perez
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Franklin (and Billy) Graham say Mormons are not Christians
According to them, Catholics are not Christians either.
"We need something like what Jerry Falwell did in the 1980s. We need a moral majority-made up of Christians, Jews, Mormons, Catholics and many others of faith-to come together to take a stand for our religious freedoms and rights."
https://web.archive.org/web/20150222160421/https://billygraham.org/decision-magazine/october-2012/can-an-evangelical-christian-vote-for-a-mormon/
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haele
(12,660 posts)Doesn't really matter, both are independent, attractive ladies who are not lily-white or GQP.
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Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)to me what her faith was, but I was surprised to find she is a Catholic.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)and you can be progressive and Catholic - you just disagree with some of the church's policy stances.
calimary
(81,321 posts)To me its always been is that what the men say? What did Our Lord say about it? I dont follow all those men. Just that One Guy. The Catholic Church has always been the Mens Room. Women have always been in subservient positions. Thats bothered me since I was a little girl.
Still waiting for a woman Pope in my lifetime
(yeah, I know, I know
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FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)for all the important work they do as working Catholics?
His Holiness was not amused, but passed it off as a miss-communication of the translators.
calimary
(81,321 posts)HE gets to say Mass. HE gets to administer the sacraments and give Communion. HE gets to rise in the hierarchy.
And SHE - assuming there even is one - gets to MAAAYYYYBE be an altar server. And of course, clean up afterwards.
soldierant
(6,890 posts)calimary
(81,321 posts)You just made me remember one of the favorite expressions a friend of mine had, regarding a difficult job. She referred to it as moving pianos around.
THIS job, though, feels like upping that comparison: Id compare it to moving a whole piano factory around (or better yet, moving the entire town where the piano factory is located)!
Polybius
(15,433 posts)Not sure why it's surprising.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)thought she was atheist, am always surprised when someone of obvious intelligence is also religious to any extent.
For instance, and this is very interesting to me; I just found out one of my lifelong friends who who is one of the smartest people I know, highest IQ of anyone I know personally, highest grades in school etc and just yesterday when I mentioned no such thing as God in some conversation he let me know that he still had some belief in a higher power...We went to Catholic school together and I think there's still some of that in him.
I wish there was a god, I am getting older and dying bothers me.
GGoss
(1,273 posts)Gidney N Cloyd
(19,841 posts)Magoo48
(4,716 posts)niyad
(113,344 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,349 posts)PufPuf23
(8,790 posts)BTW I do not have a Twitter account but if one deletes everything to the right of the"?" in the url and reload, can read all comments.
Too much of Congress and too many Americans make me ill and have no clue what to do.
Link to tweet
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calimary
(81,321 posts)Crickets.
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(312 posts)Samrob
(4,298 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and attacked there. If they didnt have that but Jerry Nadler had stepped on a puppy, theyd have gone after him for animal cruelty.