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Initech

(100,080 posts)
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 04:52 PM Feb 2023

Let me make this clear:

Ilhan Omar's removal from the House Committees today was a deliberate and intentional political hit job. It was a carefully coordinated and orchestrated attack by the MAGA Q terrorists in Congress (Boebert, Greene, Gaetz, Gosar, etc) to try to oust her because of her race, and was motivated by insane theories about her on Tucker Carlson and right wing propaganda sites and talk shows.

We have to fight back against these shit heads with everything we got.

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Initech

(100,080 posts)
2. I for one am done playing nice with the MAGA Q nuts.
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 05:16 PM
Feb 2023

These are people after all, that tried to kill our representatives. They don't deserve to be played nice with anymore. It's time to take the kid gloves off.

Bluethroughu

(5,172 posts)
3. Toss out McCarthy then filibuster everything and talk about what each of the traitors
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 06:05 PM
Feb 2023

In Congress did before and after 1/6 in every vote, Bill and in front of reporters. We've been infiltrated by traitors working against the United States from the inside of government.

Celerity

(43,408 posts)
8. the filibuster exists only in the Senate, not in the House
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 07:19 PM
Feb 2023
Senate Filibuster Was Created By Mistake In 1806

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/brookings-now/2013/11/20/senate-filibuster-was-created-by-mistake/

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We have many received wisdoms about the filibuster. However, most of them are not true. The most persistent myth is that the filibuster was part of the founding fathers’ constitutional vision for the Senate: It is said that the upper chamber was designed to be a slow-moving, deliberative body that cherished minority rights. In this version of history, the filibuster was a critical part of the framers’ Senate. However, when we dig into the history of Congress, it seems that the filibuster was created by mistake. Let me explain.

The House and Senate rulebooks in 1789 were nearly identical. Both rulebooks included what is known as the “previous question” motion. The House kept their motion, and today it empowers a simple majority to cut off debate. The Senate no longer has that rule on its books.

What happened to the Senate’s rule? In 1805, Vice President Aaron Burr was presiding over the Senate (freshly indicted for the murder of Alexander Hamilton), and he offered this advice. He said something like this. You are a great deliberative body. But a truly great Senate would have a cleaner rule book. Yours is a mess. You have lots of rules that do the same thing. And he singles out the previous question motion. Now, today, we know that a simple majority in the House can use the rule to cut off debate. But in 1805, neither chamber used the rule that way. Majorities were still experimenting with it. And so when Aaron Burr said, get rid of the previous question motion, the Senate didn’t think twice. When they met in 1806, they dropped the motion from the Senate rule book.

Why? Not because senators in 1806 sought to protect minority rights and extended debate. They got rid of the rule by mistake: Because Aaron Burr told them to. Once the rule was gone, senators still did not filibuster. Deletion of the rule made possible the filibuster because the Senate no longer had a rule that could have empowered a simple majority to cut off debate. It took several decades until the minority exploited the lax limits on debate, leading to the first real-live filibuster in 1837. Binder makes additional insightful points about the origin and historical uses of the Senate filibuster in that testimony to the Senate Rules and Administration Committee.

Bluethroughu

(5,172 posts)
13. Thank you for that history lesson and information.
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 11:14 PM
Feb 2023

Will we ever be a co-operative government working for the will of the people...and I'm not including corporations in the definition of people.

Celerity

(43,408 posts)
14. The Senate itself, let alone the filibuster, is a long wave ticking time bomb, one of several in
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 11:53 PM
Feb 2023

the US Constitution. Some others are the Electoral College, the 2nd Amendment, and a lack of proportional representation, to name a few.

Soon 30% of the population will control around 70% of the Senate seats, and that 30%, in terms of its demographics, is far whiter, less educated, more rural, more christofash, more white nationalist racist, older, more RW reactionary anti LGBTQ, etc, than the 70% of the population who will only control around 30 seats.

Magoo48

(4,716 posts)
4. She is now more powerful than ever. They fear her, and their vote proves it.
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 06:32 PM
Feb 2023

She will command and receive more attention for her causes than ever. I can’t wait to see her rise.

Delmette2.0

(4,166 posts)
5. THIS !!!
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 06:39 PM
Feb 2023

The gop fears all intelligent women who are not afraid to speak up. We need to have their backs right now.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
10. The same thing was done to Reps. Swalwell and Schiff last week
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 07:21 PM
Feb 2023

Nobody suggested it was racist or sexist for them to be kicked out. But it was still a hitjob of the highest order.

When the House flipped to blue 4 years ago, did Nancy Pelosi do anything like this? Did any high-ranking Repukes lose their committee membership? I don't remember anything like that happening.

The only thing that is supposed to happen when the majority flips, (D-to-R or R-to-D) is that the ranking member (highest of the opposition party) automatically becomes the committee chairman. The former chairman (highest of current party) is moved to ranking member. In that way, all Committee Chairs are the same party as the Speaker. That's all that should happen - nobody gets expelled and no members lose their seniority.

Where did this come from, expelling Democrats from their Committees? Especially someone with a lot of seniority, such as Adam Schiff? These Repukes are racking up a LOT of bad karma, real quick.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
12. It was the big D after her name just like Schiff and Swawell.
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 07:31 PM
Feb 2023

Just another stupid concession spineless Kevin made to get the gavel. I wonder what it’s like to want something so much you give up everything you ever believed in?

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