Rove's meltdown, all I could think was "IMPOSSIBLE! It will be like FL, I rigged it myself!"

[K8-EEE]

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Seriously though!! ALL the polls including Romney's own internals showed Obama leading, he seemed genuinely shocked it wasn't going like FL.

[Lionessa]

1. Yes, I was hoping for a Jack Nicholson in A Few Good Men type of accidental

honesty.

Sounds like he got real close. Haven't actually seen it anywhere, but have read it about it. I should find some video and actually watch.

[DCKit]

2. "Lowered Expectations" nt

[Permanut]

3. Can't get much for $400 million these days..

Inflation, maybe.

[Cha]

5. lol.. sure can't buy the WHITE HOUSE!

[Tutonic]

4. I think you're correct

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His meltdown on national TV was almost unexplainable. My thought was that the AA vote was off the charts 16-18 percent of the total vote and that the Romney model assumed 8-10 percent. By shaving off 3-5 points a Romney victory would be secured if you had 8-10 percent of the vote. But by shaving off 3-5 points from 18 points, you lose by 2-3 percent. Shaving points in a predominantly AA voting area would be easy to do and a lower turnout could be explained as "the base is too lazy to vote, and didn't turn out for Obama." Instead, Obama's base turned out in historical numbers and wreaked havoc on Rove's vote stealing. I honestly believe that Romney "knew" that he was going to win Ohio because Rove, Husted, etc., had fixed the election. That would explain why he did not have a concession speech. When the numbers started coming back Husted likely saw immediately that the Rove plan had gone awry. Rove sitting in a Fox studio could not see this and when Ohio was called very early for Obama, Rove came unglued. He "knew" that his guy was set to win and "would not" accept the call being made by other channels. I believe that the AA vote in Ohio was unprecedented--not 15 percent as reported but likely around 18 percent. Rove had simply used a 2008 model for a 2012 election and gotten beat.

[Cha]

6. I like the way you explained that, Tutonic..and Cannot

Thank the African Americans Enough for getting out and Voting as they did..no matter what it took!

It's almost too good to be true..it's like a Cosmic Shift!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

12. Frankly, from what I saw, it was a whole lot of women.

[Cha]

14. Yes, which makes so much sense when the opposition party

has a war on them. I saw a lot of young and older Black men too.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

16. The Republicans had a LONG list of things they hate...

Romney fed the hate at his rallies. Listening to the crowd you would hear mostly boos as he described the FOX "News" version of Obama.

[Monk06]

7. They were trying all day long to steal PA and OH in broad daylight. The Koch election thieves were

everywhere. True the Vote was the offender there with their storm trooper/vote monitors. Romney's remark about not having a concession speech indicated that, he at least, believed the election had been flipped.

Your account is believable on all points so I will choose to personally accept it as an explanation for RR confidence.

[demgrrrll]

9. Your comment immediately resonated with me as being the absolute truth.

Rove seemed shocked. They were all so sure he was going to win. Something happened.

[brindis_desala]

20. spot on! n/t

[tomm2thumbs]

8. probably a repeat, but interesting article on 'Orca'

Ironic name for a system revolving around Karl Rove, but anyway...

http://news.yahoo.com/analysis--why-mitt-romney-may-have-taken-so-long-to-concede.html

[demgrrrll]

11. That is interesting and may explain why they were so sure they were going to win

During that segment on Fox Rove said that he was on the phone with someone from the Romney campaign in Ohio who was refreshing the numbers and then said the system had crashed. Must have been Orca.

[yankeepants]

10. Exactly!!!! His "glitch" got glitched. Asswipe.

[AngryOldDem]

13. Did you see Rachel last night?

She showed footage from Fox News when Ohio was called for Obama. Rove was shitting his drawers, because this was **not** the outcome he (and Sheldon) had paid for.

He was ready to pull out whatever little hair he has left. Truly hilarious.

But wait...isn't Fox supposed to be FAIR AND BALANCED????

[RomneyLies]

15. .

[sandyshoes17]

17. I truly believe this happened

I don't think it's conspiracy. These are computers, not adding machines. They can be programmed for anything. And it's not like the GOP is ethically above this.
2004 I saw pics of him sitting at a comp watching results, now he was on fox and not watching. He was too confident, worked like a charm before.
I think they removed some machines in PA that were flipping right before people's eyes. Romney needed PA and OH. I definitely think it was rigged and backfired on them. I'll go even further and say the polls were setting it up. They all dismissed Nate Silver, it was going to be another exit polls were wrong scenario.
We have to work on fixing this in the next 4 yrs. all I hear is we know they steal it, so we have to get out in numbers. That's bs, make it simple and transparent.

[Texas-Limerick]

18. Karl, Karl, Karl

Karl, Karl, Karl, we hate to see you snarl
Are you still a pal of mine?  Meghan and Kraut didn't mean to malign.  Come out of denial old buddy Karl.

Karl, Karl, Karl, your fingernails are all  gnarled.  I know this is such bad news.  We understand you have the blues.  Snap out of this old buddy Karl.

Karl, Karl, Karl, you cry just like a girl.   Crossroads GPS is in the red.  First W, now Mitt is  dead.  How is retirement looking old buddy Karl?

Karl, Karl, Karl, you're  nutty as a squirrel.  Mitt won't come back from this beat down .   You're beginning to act like a clown.  Get the camera off that hasbeen Karl.


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[hifiguy]

19. As another DUer pointed out, flipping an election is not an easy thing

to do. It has to be done very subtly. Too much monkey business and it's grossly obvious. Not enough and you lose. I suspect Kasich and Husted lost their nerve and ratfucked KKKarl in the end. His meltdown said everything but "Goddamit, I fixed this thing MYSELF!! What the fk happened?"