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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 10:45 AM Feb 2023

Willis named Rudy as a target in her investigation. Why this is an important fact.

It is fair to assume Rudy will be indicted by Willis. Willis also named the 16 fake electors in Georgia as targets. When you are named a target in a investigation, it is time to lawyer up.

Many months ago another Trump lawyer, first name Boris, appeared on MSNBC and described the fake elector scheme in great detail. He called it perfectly legal during the interview. He also stated Rudy was in charge of running the fake elector scheme, not just in Georgia, the entire scheme. This my friends in on video.

When Rudy is indicted prosecutors will be able to draw a straight line from Rudy to the White House. A straight line to the mastermind of the scheme, Eastman, Boris, Meadows, etc. This one indictment will set off a chain reaction, a domino effect. You cannot indict Rudy without the other people involved in the conspiracy. They are all connected by the evidence.

There is a reason I call the attempted coup the Coup of Fools. These fools who held power admitted to their crimes on TV. They believed the power they had at that time protected them. Their power made them arrogant. They believed they could openly commit, admit, their crimes and simply tell everyone it's all legal. We are in power, this is not illegal. Nixon believed the same thing. Many White House officials who worked for Nixon went to prison. Nixon a sitting president was forced to resign.

When Rudy, others are indicted, look for things to snowball very quickly.

Willis also has the smoking gun evidence of Trumps infamous phone call, which included Meadows and two other Trump lawyers.

Please don't ask me when Willis is going to indict people. It's a waste of time. No one knows. We will know when it happens. Willis has made it clear indictments are coming.

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Willis named Rudy as a target in her investigation. Why this is an important fact. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Feb 2023 OP
How soon is imminent? Blues Heron Feb 2023 #1
in the context of the justice system drray23 Feb 2023 #3
Excellent question. Emile Feb 2023 #20
Why ask that question, no one knows. It's a waste of time. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #24
people, yes probably, but not Trump Blues Heron Feb 2023 #26
We don't know who Willis intends to indict. That is a fact. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #29
Probably 2029 MG 48656c6c6f20 Feb 2023 #27
That's valid reasoning, and planning for domino fallout must be a major strategy session bucolic_frolic Feb 2023 #2
The way things are going, I hope I'm still alive to see them indicted and jailed. Firestorm49 Feb 2023 #4
Scott Perry is in deep in the fake elector scheme, gab13by13 Feb 2023 #7
amen to that, but I wouldn't bet on it esp. if your over 40 republianmushroom Feb 2023 #31
LOL SoCalDavidS Feb 2023 #5
Remember, I will have the last laugh. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #25
What happened to John Eastman? gab13by13 Feb 2023 #6
Eastman was the mastermind, Rudy was put in charge of the scheme according to Boris. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #10
It's too late- not happening now AkFemDem Feb 2023 #8
The #1 goal gab13by13 Feb 2023 #9
The naysayers have a serious problem with their opinion, nothing will happen, it's too late. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #13
Some people are wired for negativism. Others are not. wnylib Feb 2023 #30
Good advice, thank you. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #33
The more you respond to their negativism, wnylib Feb 2023 #35
They'll do that as soon as AkFemDem Feb 2023 #36
What's your point? fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #14
That is flat out factual incorrect. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #11
Sure, let's chat again after November 2024. AkFemDem Feb 2023 #12
If its too late why are the investigations moving forward? fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #16
Its for show, grab bunch of small fish, the big boys skate as usual Blues Heron Feb 2023 #23
agree republianmushroom Feb 2023 #34
Fani Willis is the Fulton County DA maxsolomon Feb 2023 #22
I believe the Iowa caucus is jan 23rd. gab13by13 Feb 2023 #15
You know that for a fact? fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #17
People do not understand that time matters gab13by13 Feb 2023 #18
That's your argument? It doesn't make sense. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #21
when will then be now? AllaN01Bear Feb 2023 #19
So are the fake electors and Rudy willing to go to... Botany Feb 2023 #28
Good question. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #32
Willis also has a tape of not only TFG calling up Georgia's Sec. of State and asking for him to ... Botany Feb 2023 #38
Will he ever be indicted for these crimes or are just they forgotten about they are CRIMES republianmushroom Feb 2023 #37
He's committed far too many to escape justice this time. Ligyron Feb 2023 #39
We shall see. republianmushroom Feb 2023 #40
 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
24. Why ask that question, no one knows. It's a waste of time.
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 01:17 PM
Feb 2023

What's most important is Willis has made it clear she is going to indict people.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
29. We don't know who Willis intends to indict. That is a fact.
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 01:23 PM
Feb 2023

We know she is investigating Trump. That is a fact. If she feels she has enough evidence to indict Trump she has the power to do so. That is a fact.

gab13by13

(21,418 posts)
7. Scott Perry is in deep in the fake elector scheme,
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 11:18 AM
Feb 2023

Remember back in August when people were saying that indictments are imminent because DOJ seized Perry's phone? DOJ has yet been able to access the phone. This week Peter Strzok said it could possibly take a year for DOJ to gain access to the phone, meanwhile Perry is on the committee that is investigating the FBI. You just can't make this shit up.

The insurrection is growing.

gab13by13

(21,418 posts)
6. What happened to John Eastman?
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 11:12 AM
Feb 2023

I thought he was the architect of the fake elector scheme, now it's Rudy?

I have faith in Fani, I repeat, she is most likely waiting for the judge to rule on whether to make public the special grand jury report.

I have no problems with state prosecutors other than Alvin Bragg who is going to get his ass handed to him when the Pomerantz book comes out. Bragg is in full blown damage control, so says Glenn Kirschner who was just on Stephanie Miller.

AkFemDem

(1,836 posts)
8. It's too late- not happening now
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 11:25 AM
Feb 2023

The 2024 campaign season has already kicked off and Trump has already declared- there’s zero chance anyone, even President Biden himself, in a position of power wants him arrested now. They will not risk the fall out of arresting a major political opponent during an active campaign season. There was a window when such things could happen. It’s closed now.

gab13by13

(21,418 posts)
9. The #1 goal
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 11:44 AM
Feb 2023

does seem to not appear partisan. How ironic, DOJ doesn't want to appear to be partisan when one political party was complicit in the insurrection. I ask this question again, who is Garland not appearing partisan to? It sure didn't work appointing Jack Smith, the Magats are calling Garland and Smith witch hunters. Garland is actually being partisan against Democrats.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
13. The naysayers have a serious problem with their opinion, nothing will happen, it's too late.
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 12:18 PM
Feb 2023

All the investigations are still in place. They are all moving forward, expanding. The grand juries are still in place. They are still issuing subpoenas, collecting evidence, questioning witnesses. under oath. Are people supposed to believe this is all for show. One day Garland, Smith, Willis, will announce sorry, not going to indict anyone, not enough evidence, fooled ya.

Sorry, I do not understand the defeatism. I look at the facts and the facts say the investigations are not slowing down, they are moving forward. The evidence is overwhelming to the point it would be a crime not to indict the coup plotters.

Willis made it very clear she is getting close to indicting people and some people still say, nothing will happen. When it comes to some peoples opinion things are taking too long, that opinion is irrelevant the it comes to the investigations.

wnylib

(21,645 posts)
30. Some people are wired for negativism. Others are not.
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 01:36 PM
Feb 2023

Even after a trial and conviction, there will be some who complain that the charges are not strong enough, do not cover ALL of the crimes. etc.

If Garland got Trump convicted of murders for his mishandling of the pandemic and sentenced to life, some people would complain, "Yeah, but Garland let the statute of limitations run out on Stormy Daniels."

Don't let yourself get frustrated over it. Just shake your head and move on.

wnylib

(21,645 posts)
35. The more you respond to their negativism,
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 01:46 PM
Feb 2023

the more you feed it and give them a forum for spreading it.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
14. What's your point?
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 12:23 PM
Feb 2023

Are you saying Garland is corrupt. You constantly attack him. If you believe Garland is corrupt, what would that say about Biden? If your are right and Garland is corrupt you should be calling for Biden to remove him.

Blues Heron

(5,944 posts)
23. Its for show, grab bunch of small fish, the big boys skate as usual
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 01:16 PM
Feb 2023

Reagan, Bush, Bush, Nixon, all skated

smaller fish paid the price, but the big fish skate, historically in the USA.

Of course the investigations continue. Trump will not be arrested though - that window has now closed permanently.

maxsolomon

(33,419 posts)
22. Fani Willis is the Fulton County DA
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 01:08 PM
Feb 2023

She's not beholden to any internal policies or traditions the Fedrul DOJ may have.

gab13by13

(21,418 posts)
15. I believe the Iowa caucus is jan 23rd.
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 12:26 PM
Feb 2023

subtract 60 days prior to an election and that leaves DOJ (Jack Smith) less than 10 months to indict.

gab13by13

(21,418 posts)
18. People do not understand that time matters
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 12:47 PM
Feb 2023

when indicting a former president. The states have a better chance, no pardons.

Do you have any doubt that a Magat president will pardon Trump and his comrades? Trump, if indicted today, would not see any jail time until after the 2024 election. Democrats better win in 2024 and 2028.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
21. That's your argument? It doesn't make sense.
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 01:04 PM
Feb 2023

If you're worried Trump will be pardoned in 2024 it doesn't matter when he is convicted. Yesterday, today, tomorrow, it wouldn't matter. All investigations should stop now if Trump is going to be pardoned. One day there will be another Republican elected president. No one knows if they would pardon the traitors. It could be political suicide to do so. No one knows and it is something that is irrelevant to the investigations.

Garland and Smith are not thinking about Trump and the coup plotters being pardoned.

Ford pardoned Nixon before he was indicted. A Republican president giving pardons to Trump and the coup plotters after they were indicted, after convictions would have major political repercussions. Easier said then done.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
32. Good question.
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 01:39 PM
Feb 2023

This is a major problem Trump and the coup plotters have. They involved so many people in the Coup of Fools it is hard to imagine some people will not turn in order to save themselves. Prosecutors know how to turn people. When people start being indicted that will really turn up the heat on people.

Botany

(70,594 posts)
38. Willis also has a tape of not only TFG calling up Georgia's Sec. of State and asking for him to ...
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 03:47 PM
Feb 2023

... "find" 11,780 votes but another one of TFG telling the attorney for Georgia's Sec. of State
that to hold up certifying the vote because "big things are going to happen on January 6th."
Lindsey Graham is on tape too telling Georgia's Sec. of State that he shouldn't count all the
mail in vote for Fulton, County (aka the black vote) because he thinks there will be a problem
with those vote's signatures. Now who among those fake electors want to spend @ least 5
years in prison for Trump, Rudy, Eastmen, or Meadows?

republianmushroom

(13,722 posts)
37. Will he ever be indicted for these crimes or are just they forgotten about they are CRIMES
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 01:51 PM
Feb 2023

President Trump’s staggering record of uncharged crimes

https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-reports/president-trumps-staggering-record-of-uncharged-crimes/#table

As of November 2022, Donald Trump has been credibly accused of committing at least 56 criminal offenses since he launched his campaign for president in 2015. That total only reflects allegations relating to his time in or running for office and omits, for instance, Trump’s criminal exposure for fraudulent business dealings.

As reported by https://www.citizensforethics.org/

I will list these crimes if need be.

24 months and counting

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
39. He's committed far too many to escape justice this time.
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 06:45 PM
Feb 2023

People think because he's gotten away with stuff in NY that he'll continue to do so.

Nope, he just had to be a big shot and so he duped all those easily fooled idiots and in a twist of EC fate that surprised even him, was elected their king.

Perhaps thinking he was now God's chosen, he continued to crime away and did so under the bright lights of the national stage figuring, like many here, that he'd just continue to skate like he did before in the bush leagues.

Nope, not gonna happen and I think it will start with Willis.

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