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Breaking NYT via Wallace (Original Post) malaise Feb 2023 OP
Duh is right. Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #1
You're nicer than me. Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #25
That's me. Sweetness and light. Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #27
I've always said so! Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #29
I think I might rotate my responses each day: Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #31
LOL! I find "Oh, FFS!" and "Sure, Binky" cover a lot of ground. Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #32
When you are raised Irish Catholic you have to bring God into your cussing. Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #35
Favorite in our similar household, "Lord have mercy"....n/t SheilaAnn Feb 2023 #37
That's a good one too. Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #38
My grandmother: "Oh, virgin!" Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #39
That's a good one. Never heard it before. Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #40
My fathers' Conjuay Feb 2023 #41
Didn't hear that one. Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #43
That may be what sticks? pwb Feb 2023 #2
I think this is a book I really want to read. Bev54 Feb 2023 #3
The Pomerantz book is going to be good. onecaliberal Feb 2023 #4
Kinda pissed me off too. Among so many hundreds of other things. Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #26
For pete's sake................. Lovie777 Feb 2023 #5
Trump is a traitor, murderer, thief, insurrectionist, racist, liar, cheat, thug, bigot, misogynist, OMGWTF Feb 2023 #8
..Murderer? whathehell Feb 2023 #9
COVID Celerity Feb 2023 #10
At least. (nt) Pinback Feb 2023 #14
Not personally -- he's too stupid and clumsy. He likely hires people or hints with a wink housecat Feb 2023 #15
All the people who died from 1-6-21! Lunabell Feb 2023 #19
Yeah, but New York can only indict on certain charges, treason isn't one of them FakeNoose Feb 2023 #18
right ?! uponit7771 Feb 2023 #22
...K&R... spanone Feb 2023 #6
Was? As in past tense? CanonRay Feb 2023 #7
Because he's the former Manhattan DA prosecutor FreeState Feb 2023 #16
Bragg shut down the investigation as Pomerantz and Dunne said it was ready Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #28
Nt Marcuse Feb 2023 #11
Pomerantz book claims Ivanka Trump was involved in insurance fraud (Zurich) Justice matters. Feb 2023 #20
Thanks for this malaise Feb 2023 #36
Imagine rich Republicans involved in criminality. jaxexpat Feb 2023 #12
TFG was recently referencing a great American: Al Capone. May he go the same way. Evolve Dammit Feb 2023 #13
That would be perfect malaise Feb 2023 #23
His role models of Hitler and Capone tell us who he is, and what he will do. WTF America? Evolve Dammit Feb 2023 #30
tfg is the don housecat Feb 2023 #17
Old news, they decided against this charge: Liberty Belle Feb 2023 #21
Sent a past Trump supporter an email response to this Jarqui Feb 2023 #24
Great post malaise Feb 2023 #34
Consequences? Any decade now? n/t Silent3 Feb 2023 #33
Thank goodness for book deals. nt Hotler Feb 2023 #42

Irish_Dem

(47,510 posts)
31. I think I might rotate my responses each day:
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 09:48 PM
Feb 2023

Monday: For God's Sake
Tuesday: For the Love of God
Wed: Jeebus H. Christ
Thurs: Good God in Heaven
Friday: Is Everyone a GD idiot?

On weekends I can just do basic random cussing as the mood hits me.

Basically covers the appropriate responses to all current political events?

Irish_Dem

(47,510 posts)
35. When you are raised Irish Catholic you have to bring God into your cussing.
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 10:25 PM
Feb 2023

My first generation Irish American father and my aunts and uncles weren't very religious.
But they did manage to bring God into every day conversation.

Conjuay

(1,420 posts)
41. My fathers'
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 11:52 AM
Feb 2023

was either’ “Be the heart of Christ”, or “Beat the heart of Christ”. I really don’t know which.

That’s the thing about people with brogues, nobody knows what they are saying most of the time.

Irish_Dem

(47,510 posts)
43. Didn't hear that one.
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 12:03 PM
Feb 2023

My grandparents were from the more isolated, remote western coast of Ireland.
So we didn't get some of the typical big city Irish sayings.

Right sometimes I wasn't sure what grandma and grandpa were saying.

But you could figure it out usually. One time she called a serial killer in the news "a bad egg."

I hoped she never had reason to call me a bad egg.

Bev54

(10,076 posts)
3. I think this is a book I really want to read.
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 06:14 PM
Feb 2023

Racketeering is probably a good start. Does it say why Bragg was so afraid of this?

onecaliberal

(32,920 posts)
4. The Pomerantz book is going to be good.
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 06:16 PM
Feb 2023

The fact that they prosecuted Cohen for the hush payment and then said there wasn’t enough evidence to try trump made him angry. I will buy and read this book.

OMGWTF

(3,980 posts)
8. Trump is a traitor, murderer, thief, insurrectionist, racist, liar, cheat, thug, bigot, misogynist,
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 07:23 PM
Feb 2023

and an all-around assh0le.

FakeNoose

(32,813 posts)
18. Yeah, but New York can only indict on certain charges, treason isn't one of them
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 08:13 PM
Feb 2023

I think racketeering is a good start. They have lots of experience with that one.

FreeState

(10,585 posts)
16. Because he's the former Manhattan DA prosecutor
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 08:10 PM
Feb 2023

Being the former prosecutor means he is no longer a prosecutor and is now not working at all as a prosecutor. It does not mean Trump isn’t still being investigated.

Scrivener7

(51,026 posts)
28. Bragg shut down the investigation as Pomerantz and Dunne said it was ready
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 09:35 PM
Feb 2023

to go to court. So Pomerantz and Dunne quit. And Bragg sent back all the evidence and exhibits to where they came from.

Then news came out that Pomerantz's book will drop soon, and suddenly Bragg is reopening the case.

Such a coincidence!

Justice matters.

(6,944 posts)
20. Pomerantz book claims Ivanka Trump was involved in insurance fraud (Zurich)
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 08:41 PM
Feb 2023

in the Trump Org's name.

A crime family... Check!

jaxexpat

(6,860 posts)
12. Imagine rich Republicans involved in criminality.
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 07:57 PM
Feb 2023

Now, try to imagine one who isn't.

Convict them all.

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
24. Sent a past Trump supporter an email response to this
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 09:14 PM
Feb 2023

He hates Trump now.
He's a retired prosecutor (mainly in fraud)
We've been debating whether they're going to convict Trump.

Since NY prosecutors Dunne and Mark F. Pomerantz resigned:
Add the additional evidence used for convictions of Trump's bookkeeper for tax evasion, fraud, etc
Add the additional evidence used for convictions of Trump companies for tax evasion, fraud, etc
Add the evidence AG James has come up with for her $250 mil minimum civil suit
Add the Trump tax returns
Add the additional assistance Michael Cohen has been providing them recently.
Maybe add the probable evidence they're going to get from Trump's CFO as it appears they've caught him in a lie
Add all the evidence that has come out for the fake electors (Fani Willis of GA was looking at racketeering for that, Michigan is also looking into it along with civil action in Michigan)
Add the incidental evidence recovered with the FBI search warrant of Mar-a-lago - some which exposed Trump's lies in AG James case - that he had financial info he claimed he did not.
And add all the evidence that has come out from the House investigation into Jan 6th ... along with evidence from folks they flip in exchange for shorter sentences .. for Jan 6th
There is probably a bunch we don't know on top of the above.

Add the extension to statute of limitations because Trump was in the Oval office, because Trump did not reside in NY State any longer and because of Covid ..


Manhattan DA Bragg has a lot more to put a racketeering or whatever case together than he did when those prosecutors resigned. So does Fani Willis of GA.

I think that is very important. Trump cites Capone. They knew for a long time what Capone was up to - just like they've suspected for a long time Trump was up to no good. But for years, they couldn't prove it against Capone in a court of law - until they finally got him on something else - tax evasion. Indicting Trump is meaningless if they can't convict. Beyond reasonable doubt is a high bar - particularly in a high profile OJ-like case. With the grand jury convened in NY, there's about a 90% generic chance that will result in an indictment.

No decent lawyer guarantees a result but the accumulation of evidence and developments are encouraging.

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