"Rove has a lot of explaining to do …The billionaire donors I hear are livid"

[kpete]

"The billionaire donors I hear are livid," one Republican operative told The Huffington Post. "There is some holy hell to pay. Karl Rove has a lot of explaining to do … I don't know how you tell your donors that we spent $390 million and got nothing."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/republican-reckoning-defeat_n_2090510.html

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/07/1158653/-Popcorn-Time-The-billionaire-donors-are-livid




Quote of the Day

"Rove spends more for Republican candidates than the NRSC and the NRCC. He's running things. Rove is definitely a problem."

-- GOP strategist Rick Tyler, quoted by BuzzFeed, on the power of Karl Rove in the Republican party.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/rebeccaberg/republicans-prepare-for-party-soul-searching-after

[dembotoz]

1. there is a sucker born every minute

pt barnum would be proud of rove

[csziggy]

25. Barnum never said that

It was a competitor, David Hannum, who said it. The story behind the quote is very appropos, though. A man named Hull had created the Cardiff Giant, a hoax, and sold it to Hannum. Barnum tried to buy it since it was a money making attraction but Hannum turned him down.

Barnum had his own fake giant carved, claimed that Hull had sold Barnum the 'real' giant, and publicized that Hannum's Cardiff giant was a fake. Hannum uttered his famous but inaccurately attributed quote then Hannum sued Barnum. Hull testified the original Cardiff giant was a fake, so Hannum lost the suit.

Both Hannum and Barnum lost in the end since no one wanted to pay to see a fake giant.

A more detailed narration is at: http://www.historybuff.com/library/refbarnum.html

[lalalu]

2. Thanks !

This is great news. Maybe they will rip him to shreds publicly.

[Xipe Totec]

3. We've found a way to make trickle down actually work! nt

[City Lights]

4. LOL!

I'm wearing an ear-to-ear grin!

Keep flushing your money, billionaires!

[Champion Jack]

5. Better watch your back Karl...

It would be a real shame if anything bad happened to you...

[Ganja Ninja]

6. I wonder just how mad are they?

Mad enough to have turd blossom suicided?

[aquart]

27. Or they could just not take his calls.

[gollygee]

7. They know how American elections work

You can't buy them. Sometimes you win, and sometimes you lose. If they thought they were guaranteed a victory if they paid enough money, then they are confused about how the system works.

[Grateful for Hope]

11. I wouldn't doubt that Rove promised to deliver Ohio and possibly Florida

like he did for Bush in 2000 and 2004.

[Hydra]

22. That's my take on it

If the Repubs expected a big win now, it's because they got overconfident with the 2010 results. The memory of Bush is too strong, and the Tea Party rebranding, while it DID work for some things, gets Democrats out voting because we all think they're going to blow our country up.

If Rove promised them something big, that's his own fault. My guess is that they were laying the groundwork for 2016, and from the popular vote standpoint they managed it.

[calico1]

8. I see a dead horse's head in his bed. n/t

[Buns_of_Fire]

17. "Karl, you broke my heart." *kiss* nt

[Blue Owl]

9. The turds have come home to roost

n/t

[Grateful for Hope]

10. Good article.

Thanks for posting this.

[tanyev]

12. Ham steak, anyone?

[cleduc]

13. I responded to this on Huff post. This is an expansion of what I said:

When Dr. Wang, Nate Silver and Drew Linzer can all predict with such high accuracy where the race stood, Karl Rove et al have some explaining to do to their billionaires who tried to buy the White House.

Those of us who follow the polling closely know a number of GOP biased pollsters had their finger on the scale to keep the perception of a close race alive to help attract donations and give the media something to cling to that would help their ratings: a tight race and as a result, help hide the true perception of their flailing, dishonest campaign. It is all about power and money for a number of these pollsters: Rasmussen, Gravis & others. And it's important to be aware of the others because only one poll by a particular pollster is counted in typical poll of polls -so you usually need more than one pollster to really sway that number. And that's what they did. They did it in 2008 to a lesser degree.

Silver, Wang & Linzer filter out the bias and that's a key component of how they arrive at an accurate result. There's little doubt Rove knew - he's been around in this game a long, long time.

Rove and the Romney camp knew but they also knew that if the billionaires found out, like the public, the money coming into their campaign bank accounts from the billionaires would dry up too or be spent elsewhere. No one wants to make a bad bet.

The Romney campaign was one big lie after another. It was by far the most dishonest campaign of my lifetime. So it's poetic justice that the billionaires who knowingly backed this lie of a campaign got lied to as well and ripped off for hundreds of millions of dollars.

But before taking too much satisfaction in that outcome, I think US democracy dodged a bullet this time. This race was far closer than it should ever have been because of the influence of these wealthy few on the media, the polling, voter suppression and the campaign dollars. And some Democrats down the ticket lost to this overwhelming money - so it didn't entirely go to waste. This administration of the next four years may be a last chance in the near future to wipe this garbage out of US elections. So by all means take a moment to enjoy the results of your hard work. You sincerely deserve it and you've made me proud. But please don't relax for long. Stay on this issue and the voter suppression/fair election issues relentlessly until they have been eradicated - because all Americans and the example you set for the world as a great democracy deserve that.

[Doctor_J]

14. The billionaires should be thankful

that guillotines are no longer readily available.

[PrMaine]

15. He will probably get off easy

They might just bust his kneecaps.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

16. as well as transportation providers, hotels, restaurants !!

[Javaman]

18. rover got caught in his grift.

that sort of thing never has a pretty ending.

[TalkingDog]

19. Hey... they actually created some jobs. Ha!

n/t

[OnionPatch]

20. Lol! They should have just agreed to pay their share of taxes.

It probably would have saved them some money. Now they're going to have to pay them anyway. Serves them right, greedy bastards.

[Doctor_J]

21. On a related topic, one thing the Dems should do

is beat the "Rove, Limpballs, Beck" drum over and over. Make sure that every single Repuke is identified with these three anti-American psychopaths.

[ananda]

23. When your party is so full of fringe righties without moderates..

.. well, all the money in the world ain't gonna help.

[backscatter712]

24. The Koch-whores are getting pimp-slapped!

[PD Turk]

26. Sucks to be them

I donated what little money I had knowing I was taking a chance that my candidate might not win and knew there was no guarantee he would. As far as I'm concerned the billionaires did the same thing as I did only with a lot more money. Fuck them, they don't deserve any special treatment.