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brettdale

(12,382 posts)
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:20 AM Feb 2023

Deep down do you think Trump will be indicted?

By anyone?

I don't think so, the prosecutors all remind me of
a kid from Middle school, who use to say, "I have a big secret, its going to blow ya mind"

But I cant tell you yet, and he keeps hinting and hinting thruout the year about this big thing
he knows about.

I also think, bad people win, rich bad people win, powerful people win, it sucks
but I think he will get away with everything.

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Deep down do you think Trump will be indicted? (Original Post) brettdale Feb 2023 OP
Nope montanacowboy Feb 2023 #1
Today's poll. More likely to get reelected, than indicted Captain Zero Feb 2023 #38
They are taking grand jury testimony. They don't do that for fun Walleye Feb 2023 #2
Amen, Тяцмp is going to prison guaranteed. KS Toronado Feb 2023 #40
Guaranteed? BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #68
The writing is on the wall KS Toronado Feb 2023 #74
Yup. Ocelot II Feb 2023 #3
My husband and I just turned to each other cilla4progress Feb 2023 #4
I say the same thing. I'll leave this Earth a happy woman if I live to see the day.. Deuxcents Feb 2023 #30
i want Donald Rump taken away like the crooked president in MY FELLOW AMERICANS Trueblue1968 Feb 2023 #55
indicted? Skittles Feb 2023 #5
I think you are right Tickle Feb 2023 #12
Hah! He'd be protected 24/7 by the prison guards, don't you know? n/t Eyeball_Kid Feb 2023 #14
Lol 😂 NT Tickle Feb 2023 #17
i hope its the same prison guards 90-percent Feb 2023 #54
Deep down, after careful deliberation, crossing all the T's and dotting the I's, I most certainly Beastly Boy Feb 2023 #6
I'm 99% certain he'll be indicted. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2023 #7
Yes Meadowoak Feb 2023 #8
Last I heard it was imminent GusBob Feb 2023 #9
No Bettie Feb 2023 #10
I think he will certainly be indicted. Pobeka Feb 2023 #11
no nt msongs Feb 2023 #13
People like Trump BWdem4life Feb 2023 #15
Because we get comfort from the hope there is justice in the afterlife. Frasier Balzov Feb 2023 #20
I think there are around four grand juries going, DC, NY, GA & FL Jarqui Feb 2023 #16
The complete and total blame..... The Grand Illuminist Feb 2023 #28
No. Autumn Feb 2023 #18
Multiple crimes, whittled down to 1 or 2 aw shucks charges, then You're free to go now, little puppy NBachers Feb 2023 #19
Yes. fierywoman Feb 2023 #21
Should have been 20 years ago. Corgigal Feb 2023 #22
Should have been 35-40 years ago, but... Captain Zero Feb 2023 #39
Most certainly. I put the odds 100-1 he'll live to be indicted and will be indicted. WheelWalker Feb 2023 #23
Yes. elleng Feb 2023 #24
Very good article Ohio Joe Feb 2023 #29
I thought it would be helpful. elleng Feb 2023 #35
Yes my friend whose son works for DOJ Tree Lady Feb 2023 #25
Wow! And here people say the DOJ doesn't leak! BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #71
Believe me she is guessing to Tree Lady Feb 2023 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author Dum Aloo Feb 2023 #26
Hope for the best, expect the worst. The Grand Illuminist Feb 2023 #27
No, I don't think he will. n/t area51 Feb 2023 #31
Yes RussBLib Feb 2023 #32
Only civil suits. Kablooie Feb 2023 #33
That single MAGA jerk would have to be much smarter than the avereage HubertHeaver Feb 2023 #44
Depends on how many of them are in the jury pool. Kablooie Feb 2023 #51
This right here! newdayneeded Feb 2023 #62
Yes. Nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2023 #34
Nope. blueinredohio Feb 2023 #36
I'm very cynical about it. Probably, eventually, on something Silent3 Feb 2023 #37
Yes, I believe that TFG will be indicted LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #41
This week!!! mchill Feb 2023 #42
lol! newdayneeded Feb 2023 #63
When you lose track of "imminent" mchill Feb 2023 #66
Yes, I still remember when the indictment of Gaetz was announced here as "imminent." BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #72
Yes, for something. But I'm not sure it will be big enough or timely enough to stop a 2024 run. meadowlander Feb 2023 #43
Nope. BigmanPigman Feb 2023 #45
Hell No TheDemsshouldhireme Feb 2023 #46
He won't be president again no matter what. betsuni Feb 2023 #47
(From a post I made a couple of days ago) I do not believe Trump will ever be incarcerated pecosbob Feb 2023 #48
Just a little daydream, skipping the indictment stage. royable Feb 2023 #49
In Around 7 Hours, The Usual Suspects Will Be Here To Tell Us All The Reasons He'll Be Indicted Soon SoCalDavidS Feb 2023 #50
Bookmarking. "The Usual Suspects" betsuni Feb 2023 #53
And they're using words like imminent newdayneeded Feb 2023 #64
No. GoodRaisin Feb 2023 #52
He better get indicted RocRizzo55 Feb 2023 #56
No n/t Shrek Feb 2023 #57
No...he will die before he is indicted Sancho Feb 2023 #58
Rule of law is for the peon class. He will never Emile Feb 2023 #59
Willis will answer this question soon. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #60
Is soon different from imminent? BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #73
Nope, newdayneeded Feb 2023 #61
Not Deep Down, RobinA Feb 2023 #65
Nope. nt BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #67
No. n/t obnoxiousdrunk Feb 2023 #69
no... myohmy2 Feb 2023 #70
Yes, this should be a poll Lettuce Be Feb 2023 #75
Yes we can do it Feb 2023 #76
kick! BWdem4life Aug 2023 #78

Walleye

(31,028 posts)
2. They are taking grand jury testimony. They don't do that for fun
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:22 AM
Feb 2023

Usually grand jury testimony is followed by indictment

KS Toronado

(17,270 posts)
74. The writing is on the wall
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 11:52 AM
Feb 2023

See Walleye #2 above, plus there's more than one Grand Jury looking into his evilness.
The more of us that believe it the quicker he goes.

cilla4progress

(24,740 posts)
4. My husband and I just turned to each other
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:23 AM
Feb 2023

and said we hope we live long enoigh to see him held accountable.

Hopefully he doesn't outlive us.

Deuxcents

(16,254 posts)
30. I say the same thing. I'll leave this Earth a happy woman if I live to see the day..
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 01:26 AM
Feb 2023

No house arrest or watered down plea deals.

Trueblue1968

(17,230 posts)
55. i want Donald Rump taken away like the crooked president in MY FELLOW AMERICANS
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 05:03 AM
Feb 2023

I CAN'T FIND THE CUT OF THE PART ....

Vice President Ted Matthews getting arrested in MY FELLOW AMERICANS is so funny. i love it

Tickle

(2,525 posts)
12. I think you are right
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:37 AM
Feb 2023

The president has 24 hour protection, guaranteed.How could he go to jail? Unless the rules change.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
54. i hope its the same prison guards
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 03:58 AM
Feb 2023

guarding jeffery epstein when he was in jail under a 24 hour suicide watch.

-90% jimmy

Beastly Boy

(9,376 posts)
6. Deep down, after careful deliberation, crossing all the T's and dotting the I's, I most certainly
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:25 AM
Feb 2023

am ready to go out on a limb and say with confidence...

I don't know.

I hope I am wrong, I will be happy if I am proven wrong, I will be the first one to eat crow if i am wrong, but I still don't know.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
7. I'm 99% certain he'll be indicted.
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:31 AM
Feb 2023

Similar to the paying of US Debt, the full faith and credit of the United States depends on indicting Donald Trump.

The citizenship must have beliefs that benefit the unity of the country. The Rule of Law is one of them. Without faith in the Rule of Law, we become a very different nation. We become ambivalent to the Constitution. We lose faith in our institutions. We think that the contract that exists between the voters and the elected officials is broken. Keeping the Rule of Law, in letter and in spirit, is a requirement for the nation to merely exist. Perhaps unfortunately, I think that there are too many prosecutors who believe the same thing. It's a common belief, and because prosecutors believe it, they'll bring charges, because THAT is one of the true expressions of sovereignty and self-governing. Prosecutions must prevail.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
9. Last I heard it was imminent
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:34 AM
Feb 2023

But I think folks were reading into her words

He will be running for president

God help us

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
11. I think he will certainly be indicted.
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:36 AM
Feb 2023

Will he drag out every proceeding and try every trick in the book to avoid accountability, certainly he will.

I think Garland appointed Jack Smith to do what needs to be done, and Garland knows this ain't his cup of tea, but Jack Smith drinks gallons of that kind of tea.

Frasier Balzov

(2,658 posts)
20. Because we get comfort from the hope there is justice in the afterlife.
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:53 AM
Feb 2023

Whenever we find it absent in this life.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
16. I think there are around four grand juries going, DC, NY, GA & FL
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:45 AM
Feb 2023

There might be something going in MI.

From what we know (which isn't enough), they seem to have good cases in DC, NY, GA & FL.

I've heard a couple of respected legal minds say recently that you do not convene a grand jury unless the chances of getting an indictment are around 90%.

Therefore, chances of a single grand jury not returning an indictment are roughly 10% (one in ten)

On that basis, the chances of all four of those grand juries not returning an indictment would roughly calculate to be about 0.01%. So 99.99% chance of indictment on that basis. Reality is probably less than that because of how high profile the case is and we have Republicans who will put their thumb on the scale wherever they can.

However, heavy odds from that are he gets indicted.

It is in the GOP's interest that he get indicted because it opens the door to 2024 candidates who will have a better shot at winning. They'll cut his throat.

Does that mean we get a conviction? Waste of time speculating until we see the case.

Does that mean he might go to jail? I think he'll run before it comes to that.


Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
22. Should have been 20 years ago.
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:57 AM
Feb 2023

I thought this country would never allow him to run for President, forget winning the whole thing.
I’m a NY’er, we all knew what he was.

I mean this country can be mean as hell, thought Trump would fear it.

All completely wrong..

Captain Zero

(6,811 posts)
39. Should have been 35-40 years ago, but...
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 02:26 AM
Feb 2023
Rudy the Scumbag was in charge of the SDNY prosecutors office then.

Tree Lady

(11,479 posts)
25. Yes my friend whose son works for DOJ
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 01:02 AM
Feb 2023

says it will happen in the next few months. Just not fast enough for people here.

Every time I talk to her she manages to convince me. I see her Friday maybe with a update.

Response to brettdale (Original post)

RussBLib

(9,022 posts)
32. Yes
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 01:31 AM
Feb 2023

The evidence has piled up against him like never before. If this country does not indict him, them all is lost.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
33. Only civil suits.
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 01:34 AM
Feb 2023

He will never be indicted on any criminal charge.
The ones that are expected may turn into monetary reparations only.

Everyone knows that if a single MAGA jerk gets on the jury Trump will go free. Evidence will not make any difference to these imbeciles and our system allows them to ignore it and vote their prejudices instead.

HubertHeaver

(2,522 posts)
44. That single MAGA jerk would have to be much smarter than the avereage
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 02:47 AM
Feb 2023

MAGA jerk. Otherwise, he blows his cover.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
51. Depends on how many of them are in the jury pool.
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 03:36 AM
Feb 2023

A lawyer might use up all his strikes and 1 MAGA asshole is left so Trump walks free.

newdayneeded

(1,955 posts)
62. This right here!
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 08:29 AM
Feb 2023

There's no way a MAGA won't be on that jury!

Hell, I'll go one step farther. I bet it's a right wing judge for the trial.

Either way, he's not getting indicted.

Silent3

(15,237 posts)
37. I'm very cynical about it. Probably, eventually, on something
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 02:05 AM
Feb 2023

But it's been a pathetic shitshow for things to have been dragged out so long already.

We've already demonstrated to future would-be coup plotters that if they're just a bit smarter and more organized than Trump (hardly a high bar) that our "justice" system will be too damned slow and toothless to stop them.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,353 posts)
41. Yes, I believe that TFG will be indicted
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 02:37 AM
Feb 2023

I like the Georgia state law RICO case and the Mar-a-Lago document cases. While not an indictment, the NY AG civil fraud case may well hit TFG where it hurts and bankrupt him

mchill

(1,018 posts)
42. This week!!!
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 02:41 AM
Feb 2023

I’m manifesting it!
Besides…
We are at “imminent” plus 14 days now.
“Imminent” + 21 days is no longer imminent.

mchill

(1,018 posts)
66. When you lose track of "imminent"
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 11:35 AM
Feb 2023

It is surely past imminent
Feels like an eternity—and btw, wasn't that GA judge suppose to rule in “imminent” plus 2 days? Where is that ruling?

46. Hell No
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 03:00 AM
Feb 2023

Last edited Tue Feb 7, 2023, 08:26 AM - Edit history (1)

I have zero faith in Letitia James, Bragg, Georgia prosecutors or Garland. But hey they did get Cohen and Weiselberg. I think its all a dog and pony show. I think anyone who actually thinks he will be, well you're adorable in your naivete.

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
48. (From a post I made a couple of days ago) I do not believe Trump will ever be incarcerated
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 03:04 AM
Feb 2023

Our justice system has never been particularly capable of jailing rich politically-connected white people. It has repeatedly crumbled when faced with political pressure and failed at it's mission. The Great Sedition Trial is a good example of justice denied by political cronyism as multiple members of Congress were involved with aiding freaking German saboteurs and afterward exerted pressure on DOJ to end the investigation. About the only time these rich politically-connected individuals go to jail is when they steal from other rich people, like Madoff or they constitute a serious threat to other rich politically-connected people such as Epstein.

Sure there are a few exceptions but follow this adage and you will be correct 95% of the time...I call 'em like I see 'em.

royable

(1,264 posts)
49. Just a little daydream, skipping the indictment stage.
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 03:06 AM
Feb 2023

Just a little daydream, for when I go to my happy place, and I'm sure most any nit-picker could find plenty of holes, and we all could still be appalled at the course of justice not being properly followed, but...

A SWAT team drops into Merde-a-Lago, and within two minutes TFG is cuffed, gagged, hooded, and loaded onto a helicopter. He's then taken to Guantanamo and put into solitary confinement to serve five hundred thousand consecutive life terms as a traitor, international terrorist and mass murderer. And he's never allowed to pass a message to the public for the rest of his days. And we never have to see his voice or any new video ever again.

And I'm being kind. Look what happened to Osama bin Laden, who was only responsible for a few thousand deaths, instead of hundreds of thousands.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
50. In Around 7 Hours, The Usual Suspects Will Be Here To Tell Us All The Reasons He'll Be Indicted Soon
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 03:29 AM
Feb 2023

All I can see is Lucy and her football.

 

RocRizzo55

(980 posts)
56. He better get indicted
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 07:03 AM
Feb 2023

Or other people might take the law into their own hands. Perhaps another country can indict him for going against some international law..

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
58. No...he will die before he is indicted
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 07:17 AM
Feb 2023

1.) Indicting the orange asshole will cause lots of violence; threats to anyone involved in the process
2.) For many people, simply taking down the family business would be punishment enough
3.) There are still LOTS of wealthy and powerful people who will continue protection
4.) The GOP has rigged the courts, not to mention the hung juries that would result
5.) He could release lots of intel if convicted

At most he will lose some cases against his company, and maybe some state crimes, but none will result in jail time.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
60. Willis will answer this question soon.
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 08:22 AM
Feb 2023

All we can do is wait. The same goes for Garland and Smith. I still believe their investigations are smoking gun cases that must be prosecuted. I have lost a lot of faith in the SNDY and Manhattan office. It's their job to prosecute financial crimes and they have failed for decades. Corruption? Rudy and Trump, best friends who were on the opposite sides of law for years in NY??????

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
65. Not Deep Down,
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 08:48 AM
Feb 2023

not on the surface. I will be very surprised if he is indicted. And I don't care. I just want him gone by whatever means legal. Off the national stage for good. Jail, resounding loss in election, narrow loss in election, trips and breaks his leg, psychotic break, long COVID... Just get him out of here once and for all and that will be enough for me.

Of course, I think he's a symptom not the problem, so we'll still be stuck with the fertile soil he sprang from.

myohmy2

(3,164 posts)
70. no...
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 11:38 AM
Feb 2023

...would cause too much turmoil and uncertainty across the ruling class...

...and we can't have that...

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