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AnnaLee

(1,040 posts)
1. Maybe work on our own house.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:55 AM
Nov 2012

I was watching the Andy Harris fiasco and the major problem in his district seems to be the Democratic party itself. I am not saying they should try to take this red district, I am saying that they need to see if they can help a moderate to primary Harris at least. Tea Party replaced a perfectly reasonable conservative representative in that district a few years ago. The backlash produced a democrat who tried to be republican enough to survive. When he failed Harris finally got the job.

I guess what I am trying to say is that, in many cases, a better strategy is needed. I just don't see how you turn a red, red district permanently blue. We are stuck with the redistricting BECAUSE the republican handlers recognized that state government control after the census was far more important than the federal government. Has anyone learned a lesson from this?

ananda

(28,865 posts)
4. In Texas, we got more tea party Reeps in our state house.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:59 AM
Nov 2012

And they're out for bear to get their own speaker.

Luckily, they don't have a super majority, but they're all pissants
and spoiling for fights.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
3. We really need to begin winning back state legislatures and governorships
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:57 AM
Nov 2012

in 2014 (We did well in CO & MN for example in this cycle with legislative races), and so we have a better shot of having control of redistricting in 2020.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
5. We have always needed to take the case to the people
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:00 AM
Nov 2012

but the pressure is only gonna happen if we can beat them or at least make them FEAR getting beat.

Yesterday though, my mom told me this.

Obama won Wisconsin's first Congressional District.
So did Ryan.

That was not redistricting that gave Republicans a victory. It was the power of incumbency - the greater name recognition, the fund-raising advantages, the ability to travel the district and send mailers to the district at taxpayer expense.

But a Republican won in a blue district. So just because a district is red or blue does not make it impossible for the other party to win that seat - at least in some districts.

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
6. In North Carolina approx 2 Million voted for Democrats for the US House statewide
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:00 AM
Nov 2012

while 1.9 Million voted Repuke but the Repukes walked away with 10 seats and the Democrats got only 3 House members.
I think it's the same story - or worse - in Pennslyvania.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
7. Maybe not. Watch them burn all their political capital with obstructionism.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:02 AM
Nov 2012

They will not survive their own positions

gravity

(4,157 posts)
8. The fiscal cliff could be the straw that breaks their back
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:05 AM
Nov 2012

Obama has all the political capital there so some Republicans are going to be forced to support a tax increases. It could be a bloody mess for the GOP.

SharonAnn

(13,776 posts)
10. Actually, it could be a good thing and it won't last long.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:09 AM
Nov 2012

It would automatically bump up the tax rates (including for the wealthy) and then rates can be lowered only on certain segments. The tax rates for the wealthy would stay up there. It's hard to raise someone's taxes and it's a lot easier to just not lower them.

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