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Ann Romney's relief... (Original Post) WilliamPitt Nov 2012 OP
Not to mention that yashoo Nov 2012 #1
Welcome to DU, yashoo! calimary Nov 2012 #23
... and WORK for us! patrice Nov 2012 #2
or worry about Mitt's mental stability BainsBane Nov 2012 #3
One of the things that really bothered me is the fact that Ann has MS and I can't think of anything grantcart Nov 2012 #4
That is the Mormon femrap Nov 2012 #9
I find myself wondering if maybe she's secretly relieved that mittski lost. calimary Nov 2012 #24
"It's OUR turn." WinkyDink Nov 2012 #27
Finally, something we can agree on Anthony McCarthy Nov 2012 #5
I just saw a bit on TV about that house grasswire Nov 2012 #6
Sounds like a friggin' hotel Anthony McCarthy Nov 2012 #10
Most of it is not the home part. stevenleser Nov 2012 #15
No president should ever feel at home in that house. BouzoukiKing Nov 2012 #19
Yeah, how can anyone live in the PRIVATE QUARTERS? How DOES Queen Elizabeth manage to survive in WinkyDink Nov 2012 #30
The Romney's house or the White House? Ter Nov 2012 #51
the White House nt grasswire Nov 2012 #62
Plus... calico1 Nov 2012 #7
CROWN DENIED onehandle Nov 2012 #8
Heh. The neck always reveals the age. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #31
Zsa Zsa always used to say that after a certain age you have to choose maddiemom Nov 2012 #45
Yes, adipose tissue does help the older face! ;-) WinkyDink Nov 2012 #49
well there is this: n2doc Nov 2012 #11
I think he has $250 million in one of his many accounts. stevenleser Nov 2012 #16
His talk of $1m here and there don't work Rocky2007 Nov 2012 #46
In ONE place. Then there's the OTHER $750 million. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #32
They are both ill ... she physically, he mentally. Go home. libdem4life Nov 2012 #12
Um... WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #13
I apologize deeply ...I meant out of the stressful political life. First Lady. libdem4life Nov 2012 #17
Please don't try to personalize this. ywcachieve Nov 2012 #39
Yeah, no, you're right WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #41
Please accept my best wishes for your wife. I cannot imagine the stress. libdem4life Nov 2012 #43
Thanks. WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #44
My mom had it from her mid-thirties and lived until 91, quite active well into her seventies. maddiemom Nov 2012 #47
Not a good idea, though, to be questioning peoples' diagnosis because of that..... tpsbmam Nov 2012 #56
Not questioning ANYONE'S diagnosis. maddiemom Nov 2012 #63
This is your mom speaking momsrule Nov 2012 #14
Understand, fellow mom! However... calimary Nov 2012 #22
yes she was ThomThom Nov 2012 #60
No lakefront view, not out in the country. lpbk2713 Nov 2012 #18
But there's still Camp David, isn't there? maddiemom Nov 2012 #50
Dumbya was the most vacationed President ever. lpbk2713 Nov 2012 #54
And a lot of "the help" lives there, too. calimary Nov 2012 #20
Every picture I see of her SCVDem Nov 2012 #21
as a woman who also has MS, i have often worried blondie58 Nov 2012 #25
I agree with you Lilma Nov 2012 #38
I would expect that Rmoneybags and her vinden Nov 2012 #26
I don't think she ever wanted it - she just let Mitt steamroll over her wishes. reformist2 Nov 2012 #28
Well my relief is not so secret!! lunatica Nov 2012 #29
I heaven05 Nov 2012 #33
Why? Lilma Nov 2012 #40
ok heaven05 Nov 2012 #53
"I DIDNT WANT THAT STUPID JOB ANYWAY" !! leftyohiolib Nov 2012 #34
No sympathy for her...none Figaro78 Nov 2012 #35
Well put...I agree 100% for the same reason! haikugal Nov 2012 #42
yep heaven05 Nov 2012 #55
Because of that, I agree, Figaro78, and more.... tpsbmam Nov 2012 #58
And also glad Plucketeer Nov 2012 #36
I wonder if ROmney would have tried so hard... Scootaloo Nov 2012 #37
I thought it was pretty well known that neither she nor any of the sons wanted him to run. libdem4life Nov 2012 #48
LMAO! PoliticalBiker Nov 2012 #52
Stop it. This is Hard argiel1234 Nov 2012 #57
Your subject line created a horrifying image in my filthy mind Tom Ripley Nov 2012 #59
...and she thought the SS was Secret Servants! L0oniX Nov 2012 #61

calimary

(81,298 posts)
23. Welcome to DU, yashoo!
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:06 PM
Nov 2012

Glad you're here. Glad she won't be our First Lady. I rather like the one we already have. We've won this, but now we have to protect and build upon our winnings.

BainsBane

(53,034 posts)
3. or worry about Mitt's mental stability
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:52 PM
Nov 2012

now that he won't have the emotional toll of being President. The rest of America is also relieved for our own mental health.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
4. One of the things that really bothered me is the fact that Ann has MS and I can't think of anything
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:52 PM
Nov 2012

that would add more needless stress than what he has been doing for the last 5 years.


If he had won it would have been 8 years more for here.


Stress is not good for a person with MS.


This demonstrates how ego centric this guy really is.

 

femrap

(13,418 posts)
9. That is the Mormon
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:04 PM
Nov 2012

Religion. Women are to bear, rear, and love. You know, be a Welcome Mat to wipe one's dirty shoes upon. She accepts that role.

I wonder what would have been her 'cause' if she had been 1st lady???? Teaching little girls how to be eye candy and appear stupid????

She must have thought about this and told some of the other repugnants.

calimary

(81,298 posts)
24. I find myself wondering if maybe she's secretly relieved that mittski lost.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:14 PM
Nov 2012

From what I've read and understand, stress is indeed bad for an MS sufferer. She seems to have her condition well-managed, but MS doesn't just go away after awhile. And it's still incurable, so far. The job of First Lady is HUGELY stressful and demanding, and that's just the First Lady activities. The First Lady also gets to sit there and grind her teeth while she watches her husband being attacked. I mean - think of what Michelle Obama has had to endure! Talk about suffering! That's not easy for ANYONE, much less somebody who needs a stress-free environment to maintain near-normalcy. She can go back to being a private citizen immediately, and do her little horse thing and her little mom and grandma thing without too much interference from the public or media or gossips or other prying eyes. She doesn't have to be a front-line public figure anymore. I'd guess that's gonna be healthier for her, and I suspect that it's probably occurred to her as well.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
6. I just saw a bit on TV about that house
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:58 PM
Nov 2012

It's valued at 188 mililon dollars. Sixteen bedrooms, 30 bathrooms. And it belongs to you and to me!

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
15. Most of it is not the home part.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:32 PM
Nov 2012

I guess its like living in a large apartment in a big apartment building. Most of that building is not your residence.

BouzoukiKing

(163 posts)
19. No president should ever feel at home in that house.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:43 PM
Nov 2012

And the best of them have pointed that out. Even some of the worst.

It isn't their home. They're borrowing it from us - strictly as a matter of convenience.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
30. Yeah, how can anyone live in the PRIVATE QUARTERS? How DOES Queen Elizabeth manage to survive in
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:41 PM
Nov 2012

Buckingham Palace?

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
45. Zsa Zsa always used to say that after a certain age you have to choose
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:48 PM
Nov 2012

between "your face and your fanny." Her face looked pretty good for a lot of years, although she got pretty plump. An older, European generational thing? Our obsession with being thin doesn't wear well on the face and neck.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
16. I think he has $250 million in one of his many accounts.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:33 PM
Nov 2012

We really dont know how much he is really worth with all of the money sequestered in various numbered accounts all over the world.

I suspect his real worth is in the billions.

Rocky2007

(168 posts)
46. His talk of $1m here and there don't work
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:49 PM
Nov 2012

for me at all. 100M or 500m seems to fit Mitt much better. I vote for a 100B + or - !

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
13. Um...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:20 PM
Nov 2012

My wife has MS, too. Should she also go away because she's sick, too?

Rethink what you just wrote, friend.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
17. I apologize deeply ...I meant out of the stressful political life. First Lady.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:34 PM
Nov 2012

I meant the same about Mitt's mental health...not to offend any with same...he needs to be at home where he can be taken care of.

ywcachieve

(365 posts)
39. Please don't try to personalize this.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:26 PM
Nov 2012

You know what the poster was talking about. This has nothing to do with your wife, or anyone else. This is about Ann Romney and the stressful job of being the first lady. She has no place there.

I wish your wife well. Maybe some day they will find a cure for it. I hope so.

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
41. Yeah, no, you're right
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:34 PM
Nov 2012

A straightforward reading of that post above is obviously out of bounds. "They are sick, she physically, he mentally, and should go away."

Yeah, no, you're right, it's me.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
47. My mom had it from her mid-thirties and lived until 91, quite active well into her seventies.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:52 PM
Nov 2012

From her understanding, from her doctors (and she was even treated at Johns Hopkins), a lot of unexplained neurological diseases get lumped under MS.

tpsbmam

(3,927 posts)
56. Not a good idea, though, to be questioning peoples' diagnosis because of that.....
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:16 PM
Nov 2012

Misdiagnoses happen all the time and yes, people may be diagnosed with MS when it's something else, but it's not a great idea to suggest on a thread about MS (or a sub-thread) that people may have been misdiagnosed.

This comes from someone diagnosed with MS for 26 years......no doubt about it.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
63. Not questioning ANYONE'S diagnosis.
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 03:09 PM
Nov 2012

Just mentioning my mother's experience. Her MS (or?) didn't follow the usual patterns for the disease, I, too, know several other people who definitely have or had MS. Obviously diagnoses have improved from fifty years ago.

momsrule

(100 posts)
14. This is your mom speaking
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:30 PM
Nov 2012

Now play nice. I do not care for her remarks either, but we should gine the spousal thing a rest.

calimary

(81,298 posts)
22. Understand, fellow mom! However...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:02 PM
Nov 2012

there's the matter of her being a full-on, willing participant. She is NOT a non-combatant. Neither was cindy mccain. Neither was Hillary Clinton. Neither was that wretched imperious barbara "beautiful mind" bush. When they step forward and campaign, when they do NOT stay quiet and meek and in the background, when they speak up and say stuff that gets reaction. When they're players, and they're sent out to make campaign appearances (because they're the "secret weapon" or perceived to be popular with voters and desirable to have out there in a high-profile position, or it's presumed they can reach the hard-to-reach voter groups or warm up the women), and they speak about issues, then they're fair game.

She was no shrinking violet. She was not declared out-of-bounds. She was not someone you never saw or heard. She was not kept off the dais or the set of the TV show or the magazine profile. She was not muzzled, but highly quotable (saying all the wrong things of course), and she made no attempt - nor did the campaign - to downplay her role. She didn't mind speaking up and she vigorously defended her husband.

So no, she was NOT a non-combatant. She was out there, with sleeves rolled up, boldly taking the podium or the microphone, high profile all the way. She was fair game. Like it or not.

ThomThom

(1,486 posts)
60. yes she was
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:40 PM
Nov 2012

but I still have to wonder about her comments about Mitts stability and the family stories that weren't funny. Maybe she didn't want the job or knew he was not up to it but was afraid to tell him.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
18. No lakefront view, not out in the country.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:37 PM
Nov 2012



It would definitely be a step down from what they are accustomed to.


lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
54. Dumbya was the most vacationed President ever.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:18 PM
Nov 2012



I'm sure they would have given him a good race for that title.


calimary

(81,298 posts)
20. And a lot of "the help" lives there, too.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:52 PM
Nov 2012

And the riff raff are in there all the time, filing through the downstairs on those damned White House tours. EEEUUUUWWW!

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
21. Every picture I see of her
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:01 PM
Nov 2012

makes her look constipated.

The rest of them she looks mean.

She reminds me of Leona Helmsley.

blondie58

(2,570 posts)
25. as a woman who also has MS, i have often worried
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:23 PM
Nov 2012

About Ann's health. Stress is a big problem. And I often wondered, how does she cope with the fatigue? The indescribable, to the bone fatigue that appears with no warning?
Oh, silly me. She has the money to have hippotherapy anytime she wants. Yeah and people to cook and clean for her. And money for massages.

I hope your wife is doing well. I remember when she was diagnosed.
It is like being a member of a special club. Only not one you want to belong to.

Lilma

(132 posts)
38. I agree with you
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:24 PM
Nov 2012

about the fatigue and not wanting to belong to the club. Hippotherapy does work because it mimics the human stride. I have given the lessons and taken them.

vinden

(5 posts)
26. I would expect that Rmoneybags and her
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:32 PM
Nov 2012

I would hope that Rmoneybags and her would have had the conversation about her health and whether she could handle the responsibilities of First Lady, before he thrust her into the national spotlight. Or maybe he just wanted the position so badly that it didn't matter . . . in any case, I wish them both well and could not be happier that we'll have Barack and Michelle for four more years.

Lilma

(132 posts)
40. Why?
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:29 PM
Nov 2012

MS has several ways to present itself. It often strikes and then "appears" to go away. Just to come back years later. Each time it comes back it leaves you a little more disabled.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
53. ok
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:15 PM
Nov 2012

yet just feel they were using that to get some kind of sympathy vote. Just the way I feel and I'll only believe them when I see her debilitated. They lied tooooooooooooooooo much.

 

Figaro78

(37 posts)
35. No sympathy for her...none
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:16 PM
Nov 2012

Ann Romney's millions gave her access to the finest medical services money could buy yet she
wanted to see a president installed who would have gutted--if not utterly destroyed--Medicare
leaving the less fortunate to suffer and die from lack of adequate health care. This selfish, heartless woman deserves no sympathy. She is best ignored and forgotten.

tpsbmam

(3,927 posts)
58. Because of that, I agree, Figaro78, and more....
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:28 PM
Nov 2012

I've been diagnosed with MS for 26 years. I'd just returned to school (grad school) when I was diagnosed. My first symptoms, I'm sure of it, were the fatigue I complained to my GP about years before I was diagnosed (because my left side went mostly numb). Yet I finished full-time grad school while also working 20 hours a week to pay the bills (worked in my field) and then worked in my high stress field for a number of years. Because of the way things worked out when I finally was disabled enough I couldn't work I was shut out of Medicare through a bizarre loophole. The first time I've had insurance for many years was through the ACA -- my state brought in the federal Inclusive health and I got insurance despite multiple preexisting conditions (I was still rejected by BCBS). And Romney wanted to kill that off for me and for the millions of other Americans who previously couldn't get health insurance.

Yeah, I have to admit it. I have zero sympathy for her.

Oh, and P.S. Meant to add welcome to DU!



 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
48. I thought it was pretty well known that neither she nor any of the sons wanted him to run.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:53 PM
Nov 2012

I hold "Bishop" Romney and his huge Rich Male Mormon Supremacist ego completely responsible. Ann is a Mormon wife and is not allowed to go against her man. She has MS and her sons were worried about her. And if her horse issues have to do with hippotherapy...I've seen that used and it's usually suggested when everything medical science can do, doesn't help.

But as to supporting her Mate for Life...She HAD NO CHOICE. I don't think most non-Mormons appreciate that dreadful fact.



PoliticalBiker

(328 posts)
52. LMAO!
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:03 PM
Nov 2012

Besides, there's no car elevator close by.
And the thought of having to come and go in a noisy helocopter?

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