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babylonsister

(171,102 posts)
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 10:33 PM Feb 2023

Trump's Habit of Clogging Toilets With Government Documents Even Grosser Than Previously Thought


Report: Trump’s Habit of Clogging Toilets With Government Documents Even Grosser Than Previously Thought
Someone should definitely go to jail over aides having to stick their hands into toilet bowls.
By Bess Levin
February 13, 2023


Is Donald Trump going to be criminally charged over his handling of classified documents after leaving office? As with so many outstanding investigations into the ex-president, we do not know at this time. One thing he should definitely be indicted over and sentenced to federal prison for? Reportedly operating in such a manner that required White House aides to follow him around to various bathrooms, go in after he was done, fish out torn-up documents he’d tried to stuff down the toilets, and put the pieces—which, again, had been in a toilet—back together.

Last year, we learned from New York Times scribe Maggie Haberman that “staff in the White House residence periodically discovered wads of printed paper clogging a toilet—and believed the president had flushed pieces of paper.” But we did not know at the time what those who made the discoveries were expected to do with the evidence. Previous reporting from The Washington Post had revealed that Trump’s habit of tearing up documents was so frequent as to warrant a protocol in which “aides from either the Office of the Staff Secretary or the Oval Office Operations team” would follow him around collecting “piles of torn paper he left in his wake,” and then painstakingly “jigsaw…the documents back together, using clear tape.” At the time, it seemed that this protocol was intended for paper left on dry surfaces. In other words, no one really expected that after the indignity of finding a toilet clogged by one’s boss, aides would then have to put their hands in said toilet, take out the material causing the blockage, and then further deal with it from there. (Because that would be insane and, again, something an employer should be arrested for. And yet, according to a new report from the Times, that’s exactly what happened.)

In the midst of a long piece on the state of special counsel Jack Smith’s pair of investigations into the ex-president, the paper of record writes:

Mr. Trump was known to rip up pieces of paper, and to bring documents up to the White House residence. Notes taken by aides in 2018 show that Mr. Trump’s advisers appeared to be contending with tracking documents he had brought with him to his club in Bedminster, NJ, where he stayed over weekends during the warmer months of the year.

In some cases, Mr. Trump tore up documents and threw them in toilets in the White House. Aides would periodically retrieve what was not flushed down and let it dry, then tape it back together and pass the documents on to the staff secretary, whose office managed presidential paper flow, according to two people familiar with what took place.


The emphasis is ours because, what the actual fuck. To be clear, we’re not disgusted by the aides’ decision to stick their hands in these bowls and “retrieve what was not flushed down,” but with Trump for putting them in that position. (It's also worth noting that Trump’s reported shredding habit was in violation of the Presidential Records Act, and the act of literally putting the pieces back together for him was obviously an attempt to comply with the law.)

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https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/02/donald-trump-toilet-clogging-documents-details
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Trump's Habit of Clogging Toilets With Government Documents Even Grosser Than Previously Thought (Original Post) babylonsister Feb 2023 OP
Of all the crappy jobs in the world... Pinback Feb 2023 #1
It's even more grotesque than described: lastlib Feb 2023 #10
I was afraid to let my mind go that far. Pinback Feb 2023 #18
Wornock photo Ladythatvotesblue Feb 2023 #27
Yes indeed! I borrowed that pic from his campaign website Pinback Feb 2023 #29
Hard to believe Meowmee Feb 2023 #2
And that the documents went into baggies or clear folders. crickets Feb 2023 #3
Yep Meowmee Feb 2023 #4
I hope they didn't. mercuryblues Feb 2023 #26
Yes that is the crazy part Meowmee Feb 2023 #33
Unreal DET Feb 2023 #5
Well.... druidity33 Feb 2023 #40
Drumpf's a gross pig judesedit Feb 2023 #6
Madman. mountain grammy Feb 2023 #7
Well, that's shitty. rubbersole Feb 2023 #8
Modern day "Groom of the Stool" Better Days Ahoy Feb 2023 #9
Ick! Wonder if charles has one bedazzled Feb 2023 #28
Hmmm. I read that there is someone who puts toothpaste on his toothbrush Better Days Ahoy Feb 2023 #31
Can you imagine being that useless? bedazzled Feb 2023 #32
I'd find it tough to bear, B Better Days Ahoy Feb 2023 #41
Irredeemable. The whole lot bedazzled Feb 2023 #42
Gee, it sure sounds like his is innocent. BigmanPigman Feb 2023 #11
...and do not permit him access to any paper goods of any sort. BTW, how many docs did he rip, toss, allegorical oracle Feb 2023 #23
Gives a new meaning to paper flow. Danascot Feb 2023 #12
And document management musette_sf Feb 2023 #14
Somehow I take comfort and joy in knowing that his aides Bristlecone Feb 2023 #13
So did he, in all likelihood. He's a sadist. nt allegorical oracle Feb 2023 #24
I'm sure you are right. Bristlecone Feb 2023 #30
Donald J. Violation sarcasmo Feb 2023 #15
We should run ads about this. THIS IS WHY Captain Zero Feb 2023 #16
Ewwww sakabatou Feb 2023 #17
Remember when TFG used to complain about bad toilets that you had to flush multiple times? panader0 Feb 2023 #19
hmm..... bdamomma Feb 2023 #37
I am so glad I read this before I had breakfast. GoCubsGo Feb 2023 #20
Wow, that's some loyalty. Reminds me of the old joke, Hotler Feb 2023 #21
24 months and counting republianmushroom Feb 2023 #22
He's a walking toxic waste dump. Grasswire2 Feb 2023 #25
That's why working for trump is such a privilege Turbineguy Feb 2023 #34
He carries all the credentials to be bluestarone Feb 2023 #35
Or to quote John Fugelsang.. rubbersole Feb 2023 #36
I'd be asked to do that one time and... llmart Feb 2023 #38
I seen so many things I ain't never seen before! Don't turn on the lights, I don't wanna see no more old as dirt Feb 2023 #39

Pinback

(12,171 posts)
1. Of all the crappy jobs in the world...
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 11:15 PM
Feb 2023

Sorry! I really should try to be more mature.


Yet another “shocking but not surprising” TFG story. The low points keep setting new records.

lastlib

(23,316 posts)
10. It's even more grotesque than described:
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 12:29 AM
Feb 2023

They had to fish papers out of a toilet *that Donald J. tRump had just used*. Ponder that last fact.

fishing paper out of a toilet that a colossal pile of diarrheic whale-shit had just shit in........... Vomit comes up in my mouth just thinking about it.

Pinback

(12,171 posts)
18. I was afraid to let my mind go that far.
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 11:31 AM
Feb 2023

New insight into what it would mean to work for Donald J. Trump.

Pinback

(12,171 posts)
29. Yes indeed! I borrowed that pic from his campaign website
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 04:05 PM
Feb 2023

and photoshopped out the background to create my avatar. After so many years of having awful Republicans representing us in the U.S. Senate, Georgia now has two great Democrats in Warnock and Ossoff!

crickets

(25,986 posts)
3. And that the documents went into baggies or clear folders.
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 11:22 PM
Feb 2023

No one wants to touch that, even after it's dried.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
4. Yep
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 11:26 PM
Feb 2023

I was thinking that too… ugh. I’m a bit of a germaphobe etc., but I dropped my phone by accident into a toilet bowl 4 weeks ago or so, it fell out of my pocket in one of those freak events, and I grabbed it right away and dried it off, washed with alcohol, and of course washed my hands etc. By some miracle it has been fine.

mercuryblues

(14,547 posts)
26. I hope they didn't.
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 03:07 PM
Feb 2023

Fuck them. They did it and never reported it to the appropriate people. They deserved to eat his shit. I bet you dollars to donuts they would line up to work for him again.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
33. Yes that is the crazy part
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 05:59 PM
Feb 2023

I am sure they would all work for vote for him again too. Unbelievable though the whole thing.

DET

(1,324 posts)
5. Unreal
Mon Feb 13, 2023, 11:44 PM
Feb 2023

Trump’s entire presidency is a Tom Wolfe novel begging to be written. Sadly, however, Tom Wolfe is dead. I’m sure that others are up to the task, however, especially since the book would essentially write itself.

Better Days Ahoy

(698 posts)
9. Modern day "Groom of the Stool"
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 12:21 AM
Feb 2023

Except that position was a coveted one back when the British monarchy was more than a costumed side show. The Groom had the Monarch's attention and ear whilst nature called.

Better Days Ahoy

(698 posts)
41. I'd find it tough to bear, B
Wed Feb 15, 2023, 10:50 PM
Feb 2023

The same article said that Charles once stood waiting whilst the Royal Toothbrush was attended to.
Imagine.

BigmanPigman

(51,638 posts)
11. Gee, it sure sounds like his is innocent.
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 12:44 AM
Feb 2023


Typical POTUS behavior...NO!!!! Lock that fucker up and don't give him toilet facilities, make pee and poop into a hole in his prison cell floor.

allegorical oracle

(2,357 posts)
23. ...and do not permit him access to any paper goods of any sort. BTW, how many docs did he rip, toss,
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 02:50 PM
Feb 2023

and flush down the plumbing at his various retirement homes?

Captain Zero

(6,836 posts)
16. We should run ads about this. THIS IS WHY
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 02:58 AM
Feb 2023

this slob can't be trusted to be president again, and why he never should have been president in the first place.

Can't we get a PAC to run these ads?
From now until he is in jail.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
19. Remember when TFG used to complain about bad toilets that you had to flush multiple times?
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 11:41 AM
Feb 2023

I guess we know why now.

bdamomma

(63,930 posts)
37. hmm.....
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 08:50 PM
Feb 2023

maybe he was projecting again. Stupid sick SOB. Why is he still walking around free?????? Lock him up.

GoCubsGo

(32,096 posts)
20. I am so glad I read this before I had breakfast.
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 11:55 AM
Feb 2023

I think I'm going to skip it. I seem to have lost my appetite.

No doubt, his cult followers will think that this kind of behavior is "cool."

Hotler

(11,452 posts)
21. Wow, that's some loyalty. Reminds me of the old joke,
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 11:57 AM
Feb 2023

What's the difference between a brown nose and ring around the collar?
Level of commitment.

And the orange loser is still walking free.

llmart

(15,556 posts)
38. I'd be asked to do that one time and...
Tue Feb 14, 2023, 08:58 PM
Feb 2023

I'd be out the door. No way I'd stay in a job where the boss asks me to do that. Of course, I'd never work for that asswipe no matter how much they'd pay me.

WTF is wrong with the people who agreed to do this?

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