Michigan State University gunman turned 'evil and mean' after his mother's sudden death, his father

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

Michigan State University gunman turned 'evil and mean' after his mother's sudden death, his father says


The gunman who police said killed three students and injured five others on Michigan State University’s campus Monday night turned “evil and mean” and became a recluse after his mother's death two years ago, his father said.

Anthony McRae, 43, had a difficult time handling the loss of his mother, Linda McRae, and his demeanor and outlook on life “changed” after she died of a stroke on Sept. 13, 2020, according to his father, Michael McRae.

“He was a mama’s boy. He loved his mom. They were tight. His mom was like his sister," Michael McRae said.

After her passing, the younger McRae quit his job at a warehouse and stayed in his room all day, his father said.

“He was grieving his mom. He wouldn’t let it go. He got bitter, bitter and bitter,” Michael McRae said. “His mom died, and he just started getting evil and mean. He didn’t care about anything anymore."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/michigan-state-university-gunman-turned-evil-and-mean-after-his-mother-s-sudden-death-his-father-says/ar-AA17tetw

[Takket]

1. So he solved his problem like many others in America

He bought a huge gun and decided to shoot up some strangers.

[sarisataka]

12. Welcome back

[MarineCombatEngineer]

15. Damn,

that was fast.
Mirt taking out the garbage.

[prodigitalson]

18. I was in the jury that removed the post

it was very trollish in addition to the 'conspiracy theory' rule it violated.

[H2O Man]

29. Thank you!

I didn't get to see it, and appreciate your help in making that happen.

[maxsolomon]

13. Welcome to DU

Enjoy your stay.

[gratuitous]

2. Luckily for Anthony, he lives in the United States

So, while he couldn't get mental health treatment to help him deal with his difficulties, he could get his hands on firearms and go on a little killing spree before taking his own life. That's freedom for a small but very vocal segment of our population, and we must all live in the society they dictate.

[Baitball Blogger]

20. +1

[whathehell]

23. Mental health treatment is certainly available in the United States

but you have to be willing to be treated.

[hunter]

26. That's bullshit. With or without good insurance or cash in the bank...

...waiting lists stretch out three months or more.

Even showing up in the E.R. with some pretty serious shit doesn't guarantee a fast pass to appropriate psychiatric care.

Fortunately the vast majority of mentally ill people aren't prone to shooting others.

Alas, too many are prone to shooting themselves.

[whathehell]

27. No "bullshit" at all..

There are these places called " Community Mental Health Centers" -- very little cash, and no insurance needed.

Don't know where you live, but when I used their services, there was no "waiting list".

[hunter]

34. You're talking to someone who has spent some time in locked psych wards...

... as a patient, not a medical provider.

Fortunately I tend to be an affable sort when I'm at my worst, otherwise I might be in prison. Or dead. Here in California the prisons are the largest mental health care providers.

When things start to go wrong for me the first thing that flies out the window is my ability to judge my own mental state.

On my own, at my worst, I wouldn't have the wherewithal to get myself to one of those "Community Mental Health Centers." My natural state seems to be crazy homeless guy, mostly harmless. Been there, done that, don't want to do it again.

I learned a long, long time ago that I needed to maintain some sort of social support network to catch me when I fall.

Mentally ill people without advocates are shit out of luck here in the U.S.A..

I've wasted many years of my life biting the hands of people who were trying to help me, and I can't promise it won't ever happen again.

It takes a lot of courage to seek mental health care in a society the stigmatizes mental illness, but you can't expect that from everyone, and often it's those very expectations that make their suffering worse.

[whathehell]

37. Sounds like you've had a very tough time..

I'm glad that you're doing what you need to do for yourself.

[hunter]

41. Couldn't have done it myself.

We humans are social creatures. That's what defines us.

Nobody has ever pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps.

Part of me is still that kid living in my broken car in a church parking lot, dumpster diving for food, refusing any other help but a place to simply be, having left home in a storm after I was booted out of university a second time and punching my dad in the face.

My siblings still tell tales about that.

Living on my own was much, much worse. I have scars.

It's all good now.

[whathehell]

42. You're right, no one can do it alone..

I'm glad to hear things are good now.

[debm55]

38. Thank you, hunter, for your post. Sometimes people see going to a Clinic or doctor as an instant

cure. It isn't. It is a long hard process. I myself went to the ER because I couldn't sleep for days. and had anxiety. They gave me sedate,
and sent me home.The next morning I woke up with a sheet wrapped around my neck. With alot of clinics, you are given your 20 minutes, your scripts, and the make another appointment for 4 weeks. I agree with your statement. Here in the US, if you have problems. you are looked at as a lesser person. Thank you again for your post .And I wish you all the best on your journey in life. Debbie

[Phoenix61]

30. Everything's available if you have enough money.

Free mental health care is a myth.

[gratuitous]

32. At least more willing to be treated than to get a gun

But in this iteration of the United States, our Solution of First Resort for Whatever Ails You is violence, often dispensed by the barrel of a firearm.

[BComplex]

31. Mental Health in this country is in SERIOUS trouble.

That was partly started by Reagan, and got pretty much totally defunded over the next 15 years.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

3. So much fuckin pain in this world.

[Marthe48]

17. and the killer added more sadness to the mix

I don't understand that outlook.

[EYESORE 9001]

4. Notwithstanding that people grieve all the time without going on killing sprees

it’s important that people keep an eye out for signs of mental illness in their families and friends.

[Botany]

5. And didn't he just do 1.5 years probation for having an illegal firearm?

I wonder what kind of gun he used and how did he get it?

Background checks anybody?

[Kaleva]

7. He plead guilty to a misdemeanor. The felony charge was dropped

The NCIS background check asks if the purchaser has ever convicted of a felony or any other charge that could result in jail time if more then one year or if currently under indictment for same

[Srkdqltr]

8. Not on a county where a sheriff and prosecutor won't do anything.

[shrike3]

6. "I want you to hurt like I do."

Randy Newman lyric. He got it right.

[RussBLib]

9. That's a pretty unhealthy family dynamic

.....and there seems to be so many dysfunctional families it almost seems to be the norm in this country.

[AngryOldDem]

14. Mental health and guns....comorbidity in this country.

Both fail to get addressed, and this is the result.

[Kid Berwyn]

24. John Engler, Ronald Reagan and the GOP played leading roles...

…in shutting down Michigan’s once-model mental health facilities.

[AngryOldDem]

35. Not only in Michigan.

What Saint Ronnie did is unforgiveable.

[Ray Bruns]

10. Who the hell let "Norman Bates" have a gun.

[maxsolomon]

16. Good thing he had access to a cheap semi-automatic handgun, then.

3 dead, 5 maimed.

Do the suicide part 1st, rampage shooters.

[Tesha]

19. "Stayed in his room all day"

My question would be was he weaponized by the media.

In his room did he listen to hate all day long, did he blame the elites because they told him that was why his mom died? How much did Covid have to do with her death.

And why the hell didn't his father move to help him and keep guns away?

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

22. he seems to have gotten deeply into religion.. posted about religion

[Celerity]

25. That is almost always a bad sign.

A sudden deep diving into the wilful suspension of disbelief (ie. magical thinking) usually shows a mental unhingeing taking place.

[debm55]

39. That is very difficult to get a person help unless the person wants help. as the system is set up.

But I agree, it a person is in that state of mind, guns should not be in the home.

[llmart]

21. I don't think we know enough about him yet.

I think there's going to be more to this guy's story than "he loved his mother, she died and now I'm going to go to a college campus and shoot students".

[liberal_mama]

28. Yeah, there has to be more to the story. Millions of people are grieving loved ones and don't go on

a shooting rampage. Maybe he blamed someone or something for her death.

But then why go after students instead of the people he thinks were responsible? The news said he had no ties to the school.

Someone posted that he got real religious. That's never a good thing because it probably deranged his mind even further.

[Buckeyeblue]

33. So the father watched his son's mental health decline but did nothing to help?

I have a difficult time understanding how that happens.

[yardwork]

40. There aren't a lot of options, unfortunately.

Maybe his father tried but wasn't able to find help, of his son wouldn't participate in helping himself.

[Johnny2X2X]

36. He recently plead a felony gun charge down to a misdemeanor

And there was no mechanism in our court system to evaluate him for whether or not he should continue to possess guns. If the felony would have been stuck with, he would have lost his guns and the right to own them going forward.

But at least in that situation there should have been some evaluation of whether he should keep his guns.