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Romney actually BELIEVED he was going to win (Original Post) CatWoman Nov 2012 OP
Because he lived in a virtual reality world Speck Tater Nov 2012 #1
Sunday was his "holy day" Kolesar Nov 2012 #2
Well, to be fair, he also thinks tax cuts to billionaires create 12,000,000 jobs SoonerPride Nov 2012 #3
No, that's one he was going to make good on with 10 million job terminations, replaced with patrice Nov 2012 #10
Lol! nt Obamamama44 Nov 2012 #11
He had only prepared a victory speech ann--- Nov 2012 #4
A victory Fireworks display was setup HipChick Nov 2012 #6
OMG! For real? ann--- Nov 2012 #55
He had his transition website ready to go too LynneSin Nov 2012 #7
My personal conspiracy theory is that we just did some financial house-cleaning for them .... patrice Nov 2012 #5
Or GOP actually thought they were going to win Blue4Texas Nov 2012 #8
I think he believed it because he believed he was destined to be President cali Nov 2012 #9
"White Horse" prophecy Pab Sungenis Nov 2012 #21
A life prize... shrdlu Nov 2012 #12
His grandiose sense of entitlement bit him squarely on the butt nt Happyhippychick Nov 2012 #13
I hope he is off licking his wounds somewhere, with no plans to step onto the SammyWinstonJack Nov 2012 #16
Me too! And I hope he takes his plastic wife with him! Happyhippychick Nov 2012 #20
LOL CatWoman Nov 2012 #35
+ tax Faux pas Nov 2012 #31
Every candidate believes they are going to win nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #14
yeah CatWoman Nov 2012 #15
Usually as votes come in nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #23
Steve Schmidt said they knew three weeks before the election, that McCain would lose... CoffeeCat Nov 2012 #28
And he also mentioned nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #46
Did Mondale on Election Eve 1984? Ter Nov 2012 #42
I will put it to you this way nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #45
He wasn't "set up": he BELIEVED the PROPHECY. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #17
I wonder if he kept the receipt StarryNite Nov 2012 #18
I think they figured that $ = votes socialindependocrat Nov 2012 #19
We are forgetting that he was raised by his family to believe that he was to be the great Mormon jwirr Nov 2012 #22
I'm so glad that you made an OP about this... CoffeeCat Nov 2012 #24
wonderful post, CC CatWoman Nov 2012 #25
"If you're so smart, you'd be rich!" RevStPatrick Nov 2012 #26
I think Palin is dumber lutefisk Nov 2012 #37
Blame it on the Rove. Atman Nov 2012 #27
LOL!! CoffeeCat Nov 2012 #29
Yep - you got it. But Rove is a narcissist who thinks he has a "golden touch" and believed it too. Michigan Alum Nov 2012 #44
He rented Fireworks for Boston harbor Taverner Nov 2012 #30
and we the taxpayer would have footed the bill CatWoman Nov 2012 #36
No surprise boxman Nov 2012 #32
They didn't string him along-- they all believed it. Marr Nov 2012 #33
This is a very Republican flaw spinbaby Nov 2012 #34
White Horse Propehcy and thought OH and FL would be stolen obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #38
Actually, I picked up on this to very quickly, cecilfirefox Nov 2012 #39
They believed it too, I'm sure. They prob. only listen to Faux News and had some effed up pollsters. Michigan Alum Nov 2012 #40
All my RW co workers thought so too. Too B Calm Nov 2012 #41
My friend, also. I should've told her to relax and await the Obama blow-out. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #47
I bet they were listening to "Boss Rove" who was either in la-la land or thought they stole it. Michigan Alum Nov 2012 #43
Don't forget the fireworks - Romney had them planned too! LynneSin Nov 2012 #48
They all believed they were going to win. kentuck Nov 2012 #49
I'm really not that sure about this "belief". NBC was reporting that Mitt's own exit polls were... adirondacker Nov 2012 #50
I don't understand why anyone thought he would win. Solly Mack Nov 2012 #51
It used to be that candidates were not told their numbers if they were applegrove Nov 2012 #52
Locally it is still true nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #53
He got out foxed by Fox!!!!! Tennessee Gal Nov 2012 #54
It's the "Bubble" factor graywarrior Nov 2012 #56
 

Speck Tater

(10,618 posts)
1. Because he lived in a virtual reality world
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:20 PM
Nov 2012

where Fox is News and his victory was inevitable.

Think of it as the Republican version of an online role playing game. It's looks pretty realistic, but in the final analysis it has not connection to reality.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
2. Sunday was his "holy day"
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:20 PM
Nov 2012

Meaning that the polling told him that he could lose the election and he said "holy s#!t".

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
3. Well, to be fair, he also thinks tax cuts to billionaires create 12,000,000 jobs
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:21 PM
Nov 2012

Because, you know, he's an idiot.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
10. No, that's one he was going to make good on with 10 million job terminations, replaced with
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:23 PM
Nov 2012

6 million temporary replacement jobs that launder, rinse, and repeat at least 2 times . . .

or something like that.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
5. My personal conspiracy theory is that we just did some financial house-cleaning for them ....
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:21 PM
Nov 2012

NOW, to get PAID!!!!!

????? ~

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
9. I think he believed it because he believed he was destined to be President
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:22 PM
Nov 2012

In coming days I think we'll find out. The leaking from his inner circle has already started.

shrdlu

(487 posts)
12. A life prize...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:24 PM
Nov 2012

I take Col. Pat Lang's view that Romney thought the office an appropriate reward for his wonderful life and splendid accomplishments. He could not believe he would be denied.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
23. Usually as votes come in
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:32 PM
Nov 2012

It is rare that a candidate will do this before. It matters little if this is county commissioner or POTUS.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
28. Steve Schmidt said they knew three weeks before the election, that McCain would lose...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:40 PM
Nov 2012

Schmidt has publicly said that McCain knew it too.

Come on, if Mitt Romney didn't know--it's because people manufactured a reality around him that prevented him from knowing. They were doing internal polling, for Pete's sake.

I saw the polling, looked at all of it--and knew that Romney's chances of winning were very slim. All of the evidence pointed to Obama beating him--because he was leading in most of the critical swing states.

What drives me nuts--is that the scientific evidence was there! I'm a stay-at-home mom from the suburbs, and I knew this. But we're supposed to believe that polling experts, campaign managers and seasoned political experts couldn't have told Mitt Romney what so many of us knew.

It is bizarre that nearly 30 percent of this nation lived in a make-believe fairy world throughout this campaign. It is frightening.

People discuss how Romney may be imbalanced. His family members have discussed how they have to calm him down and Ann said she worries about his mental instability. Maybe they worried that he would come unglued if he knew the truth--so they felt the need to manufacture a bubble. I don't know.

It is disturbing if you ask me to watch a good portion of the country and a man who came very close to the presidency--residing in a place that is not reality. It's damn near frightening!

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
46. And he also mentioned
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:10 PM
Nov 2012

That they still hoped they got a miracle at the last minute.

My lord...sorry if I cannot see the world through partisan glasses. Perhaps it's doing actual political analysis like for real, and covering these people.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
45. I will put it to you this way
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:07 PM
Nov 2012

some candidates "know" but they do not want to believe it, until the actual votes happen.

A few, they are rare birds indeed, know before, and are ready.

But those are very rare birds indeed.

StarryNite

(9,445 posts)
18. I wonder if he kept the receipt
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:30 PM
Nov 2012

for his magical underpants? Maybe he can still take them back because they didn't work.

socialindependocrat

(1,372 posts)
19. I think they figured that $ = votes
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:30 PM
Nov 2012

All their dollars equated to was ad time.

We proved that there is a saturation point when it comes to ads and phone calls.

I think they figured they'd buy the election and the Kochs would have a bought
president who would do what they told him to and they could rule the world.

Now they only own congress

Thank the lord for Alan Grayson, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren!

They didn't want Eliz. Warren to fight for consumer protection!
Now she can fight for anything she wants!


jwirr

(39,215 posts)
22. We are forgetting that he was raised by his family to believe that he was to be the great Mormon
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:32 PM
Nov 2012

savior of America according to prophecy.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
24. I'm so glad that you made an OP about this...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:32 PM
Nov 2012

Because seriously...I started so many posts pre-election about the Republicans living in fantasyland. Sure, we all want to believe that our guy will win, but the Republican delusion was horrifying to me.

I kept posting about their eventual break on election night, because they were being sold that Romney was definitely going to win. I was on Free Republic, I watched Fox News--they thought they had it in the bag.

It was disturbing for me to watch and to read. I kept saying that it wasn't smart to lie about Romney's assured win, when the loss would be like plunging them into icy, polar waters. I worried that these types would be violent or come unhinged.

I will NEVER understand it. I have worked in PR for nearly two decades. The Republicans built a bubble around the Romney campaign. They had fake polls, fake predictions from Karl Rove, Dick Morris and Michael Barone--and manufactured stories and news pieces. I could see through all of it!! All you had to do what look at the non-partisan polls, make your own electoral map on CNN.com and work it out for yourself. Obama was leading in nearly all swing-state polls. The truth was there, for those who wanted to see it.

Did anyone see that Obama cried during his last campaign speech in Iowa? Free Republic and other right wing sites, as well as right-wing radio and Fox News--insisted that Obama's tears were because he knew it was over.

Ok, I was THERE...at that Des Moines campaign speech. Twenty five thousand of my closest friends were there too. Obama shed those tears when he talked about how far our nation had come since he was first elected and how we were going to carry the unfinished work forward. He wasn't sad and saying goodbye. It was just the opposite!! He knew he was winning. I left that speech knowing that we would win.

Ok, I'm not anyone special. I'm not a mind reader or a pundit on a major network. However, I knew that Obama was far ahead and probably going to win. If I could figure it out--how in the hell can an entire Republican infrastructure not know???

Seriously. Something is really wrong here. I agree CatWoman. They seemed to concoct an alternative bubble for Mitt to play around in. It was very bizarre and there is much, much more to this story.

 

RevStPatrick

(2,208 posts)
26. "If you're so smart, you'd be rich!"
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:38 PM
Nov 2012

I just love that old canard, because, no, you don't need to be particularly smart to get rich.
All you need to do is know how to buy low and sell high.
It really seems like Mittens convinced himself that since he was able to get rich, that he must be super-brilliant.

I have never seen a dumber candidate in my life...

Atman

(31,464 posts)
27. Blame it on the Rove.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:39 PM
Nov 2012

Vulture capitalism at its finest! They fed off each other. It was all just about making money. Rove promised shit he couldn't deliver, just keeps the checks coming! This is the model of the GOP marketplace. Every man for himself. Romney didn't spend a dime of his own money, of course. He just sucked up the cash of "supporters." He'll go home and ride the car elevator up and down, and yell and Ann at Seamus to STFU. No loss, except time. And damn...now he might actually have to pay some tax.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
29. LOL!!
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:44 PM
Nov 2012

That is a very vivid image of Mitt in his car elevator--telling Ann and Seamus to STFU. LOL!



Reminds me of Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction when she's turning on and off the lamp on her bedside table. Frightening!

boxman

(14 posts)
32. No surprise
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:20 PM
Nov 2012

This is a man who, for his entire life, has had everything he wanted handed to him on a silver platter. This was one toy the little kid couldn't take by force.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
33. They didn't string him along-- they all believed it.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:43 PM
Nov 2012

They live in a fictional world, and have their own media that tells them nothing but things they want to hear. In their fantasy world, Romney had the election locked up.

Unfortunately for them, sometimes it isn't enough to simply insist a thing is so. Sometimes reality insists.

spinbaby

(15,090 posts)
34. This is a very Republican flaw
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:44 PM
Nov 2012

They think that if they "believe" something, it will automatically be true.

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
38. White Horse Propehcy and thought OH and FL would be stolen
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:53 PM
Nov 2012

Remember, Romney believes the ends justifies the means. He thought OH and FL would be given to him, and that Obama would lose ALL the swing states, plus a couple more (Michigan?).

cecilfirefox

(784 posts)
39. Actually, I picked up on this to very quickly,
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:56 PM
Nov 2012

what with how long it took him to concede, with how he looked when he gave the speech, how his family looked. They weren't jus t bsing and presenting a good face earlier in the night, they genuinely though they were going to win, and constantly they were talking about polls and scientific data that just.... Was wrong. Did they make it up? Did they deliberately voter and data mine information that would result in a beneifical outcome for them? It's jaw dropping- that election was clearly swinging in Obama's favor going in but they just ignored it.

They literally live, and this has been a bit of a liberal meme the past two years I admit, in an alternate reality. Bullshit mountain, Stewart called it, and he couldn't be any more correct.

Michigan Alum

(335 posts)
40. They believed it too, I'm sure. They prob. only listen to Faux News and had some effed up pollsters.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:57 PM
Nov 2012

It's easy to have a bias when you want something to happen really badly. They had some asshat doing their polling.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
41. All my RW co workers thought so too. Too
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:59 PM
Nov 2012

much FOX news and AM radio. I been telling them for some time that they need to watch regular news channels. . . Oh well

Michigan Alum

(335 posts)
43. I bet they were listening to "Boss Rove" who was either in la-la land or thought they stole it.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:03 PM
Nov 2012

They were saying that Rove was the new "boss" of the party. We saw how Rove was acting election night and all the other "experts" on "faux" news.

adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
50. I'm really not that sure about this "belief". NBC was reporting that Mitt's own exit polls were...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:24 PM
Nov 2012

they were down by 5% in Ohio. Hard to imagine that they believed they could pull it off without Ohio.
I do think, however, that they wanted to keep their base alive for a while during the evening hours. It pulled in a lot of viewers onto Clearchannel stations, that's for certain.

applegrove

(118,659 posts)
52. It used to be that candidates were not told their numbers if they were
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:49 PM
Nov 2012

bad. Don't know if it is still true.

Tennessee Gal

(6,160 posts)
54. He got out foxed by Fox!!!!!
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:40 PM
Nov 2012

They lied to their own candidate ........ and he bought it! Oh, the irony!

ROFL!!!!

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