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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm sorry but no statehood to Puerto Rico unless we also consider it for Washington DC
Last edited Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:31 PM - Edit history (1)
Just saying.
There are MORE people in DC than in Wyoming. DC pays the same taxes as the rest of the country and still has no representation in DC other than a non-voting representative. What's worse, our US Congress can actually make laws for DC, like when Kay Bailey Hutchison wanted to bring Texas style gun laws to DC.
I would love to add Puerto Rico to our country but only if we also bring Washington DC in as well.
Edit NOte: I know i started this thread awhile back but I wanted to modify the thread to say that we should consider it but the final decision on DC should not hold back PR.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Actually I would prefer putting it into Virginia since Maryland seems to be a pretty safe Blue state but I would be fine with that too.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)Paris & London aren't "outside" the states they are located in. It should just become a city called Washington, Maryland.
msongs
(67,412 posts)calico1
(8,391 posts)It's closer to Hispanola.
Cuba is a lot closer to FL.
Plus, why FL? Puerto Ricans live all over the U.S. I grew up in NY.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)and that delaware should be that entire peninsula between the chesapeake & delaware bay.
and that california should become 2 states.
and that jaggedy part of maryland should just be virginia.
and that both the florida & oklahoma panhandles should be eliminated.
i think a lot about these things.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)the last time I saw any real discussion of it was probably in the mid-90s, though...
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)Lord knows we could use the Senators.
tokenlib
(4,186 posts)Hey it's an economic stimulus for the flag manufacturers.... DC does deserve to get out of its lack of voting representation in congress...
Bucky
(54,013 posts)and the other is to have the stars mimic the "shape" of Donald Trump's hair.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)temporary311
(955 posts)Im not sure if it's fair to the people of Puerto Rico that they be held hostage as some sort of leverage to force the DC issue. That sort of welcoming present would be sort of bitter, I would think.
Care Acutely
(1,370 posts)Taverner
(55,476 posts)Before you balk, consider the BLUE we would be adding to that state...
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)I agree.
Another DUer said Maryland but that state is safe blue. I'd rather add DC to Virginia.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Do you intend to compensate MD and VA for the pieces of those states from which DC was carved out by the Constitution?
Article I section 8 - Congress shall have the power:
....
To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings
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Why would you oppose just giving the bigger chunk of it back to Maryland?
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)In the end there are 617,996 people in DC who pay taxes like the rest of us do and have to obey the same laws. Yet they have no vote in congress.
The constitution is over 200 years old and although most of it has held up against the test of time, the idea behind DC is a bit outdated and should be modernized. Whether it's by declaring DC a state or splitting DC back into the states it was taken from makes no difference to me. But those people need a voice!
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...which should be kicked out for false advertising on the ground that it's not really an island anyway.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Instead of just one
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)That's a win-win right there
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Although Alex Pires was doing his best to fill that void of batshit crazy candidates.
To be fair I think he was the Democrat who ran against Carper in the primaries then ran again in the general elections. Then the douchebag had the audacity to belittle Carper's Vietnam career and vet status.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)She was... something.
But it's tough to top a state rep candidate who gets indicted for 132 counts of child sexual abuse after the ballot deadline.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Rumor has it she's broke. She spent thru that million she had leftover from the campaign along with what little money she got from the book deal.
So my guess is she's going to try again in 2014 because she still thinks she was better qualified than Chris Coons.
Meanwhile Chris Coons is turning out to be one of the better senators in DC.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)That's precious.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)The current DC footprint is purely from the land that came from Md.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)But, in any event, the point remains that you end up with one state having jurisdiction over the national capital.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)That might be a good compromise. It would still be autonomous but the people would be represented. I don't think the founders ever considered that there may be a permanent population in the district.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)obamanut2012
(26,079 posts)Also, I think we need a Constitutional Amendment to make DC a state.
Puerto Rico citizens can be drafted into the military, but have no real representation.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)eqfan592
(5,963 posts)Sorry, but PR statehood needs to come first.
Stinky The Clown
(67,807 posts)LynneSin
(95,337 posts)but it should be discussed.
If DC is discussed and fails you are right - it shouldn't hold back Puerto Rico.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)I think DC should be included in Md. elections. Make it a new House district, and vote for Md senators.
But if there is an effort to get the amendment, I will support it. I don't think that P.R. should have to wait for it though.
Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)The one in the other thread is amazing.
(The election is over so I'm a bit more relaxed and jokey, but I think the folks who live in DC deserve proper representation so I'm with you.)
cecilfirefox
(784 posts)Angleae
(4,484 posts)Unfortuanately, congress controls the city government so congress would have to apply to congress for statehood which is currently impossible due to the republican controlled house.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Northern Virginia has most of it's taxes leeched off into the more Dixie side of the state. I say let DC and NOVA becomes it;'s own sate, ala what West Virgnia did.