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Stinky The Clown

(67,799 posts)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:22 PM Nov 2012

For SoS HRC Replacement. Please. No John Kerry. No Susan Rice.

I do not want us to risk a Senate seat. That lets Kerry out.

I like Susan Rice. Susan Rice, however, is tied to this Benghazi shit. We do NOT need that.

I personally favor Wes Clark, but there are others. Bill Richardson comes to mind.

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For SoS HRC Replacement. Please. No John Kerry. No Susan Rice. (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Nov 2012 OP
I like both of your recommendations. codjh9 Nov 2012 #1
I was thinking Wes Clark, too. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2012 #2
Gen . Wesley Clark - YES!!!! northoftheborder Nov 2012 #3
I want Susan Rice. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #4
+1 what you said and I like her. Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #8
So do I. MzShellG Nov 2012 #22
She's my choice and you're so correct! BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #26
I really like the idea of Wes Clark. hifiguy Nov 2012 #5
I agree about Rice but I think Kerry would make a fine SoS and cali Nov 2012 #6
Brown still got a lot of votes and he's still got a sizable war chest. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #27
Wes Clark sounds good to me. HappyMe Nov 2012 #7
Bill Clinton. In the top 3 best DEM politicians in USA. SDjack Nov 2012 #9
You guys make me sick falling for the made up Solomon Nov 2012 #10
Amen! slor Nov 2012 #13
Okay then . . . . Stinky The Clown Nov 2012 #15
Those four years are going to be all too short. Solomon Nov 2012 #23
I felt that way the moment he won re-election. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #28
Bill Clinton. Perfect. Rockholm Nov 2012 #11
Wanna trade Senators? politicasista Nov 2012 #24
No one would even think for a minute that the Democratic governor would karynnj Nov 2012 #34
Benghazi shit? GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #12
No Stinky The Clown Nov 2012 #14
Bill Clinton or Wes Clark TTUBatfan2008 Nov 2012 #16
Kerry wants the job and I think he will get it. Jennicut Nov 2012 #17
I like Kerry too. I think he would be a great SoS. Whisp Nov 2012 #19
Yeah, lots of good prospects. Jennicut Nov 2012 #21
Susan Rice is fine. Whisp Nov 2012 #18
He didn't appoint Richardson the first time around because he was being accused of Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2012 #20
"Huntsman, Huntsman, Huntsman, Huntsman" (chanting) quinnox Nov 2012 #25
Is that a joke? satxdem Nov 2012 #33
nope, his name was floated earlier quinnox Nov 2012 #38
Your posts have been, interesting, of late. Ruby the Liberal Nov 2012 #35
Hi Ruby quinnox Nov 2012 #39
I rather like Samantha Power. nt Deep13 Nov 2012 #29
Surely there are other people out there. SheilaT Nov 2012 #30
Susan Rice is under 60 n/t politicasista Nov 2012 #32
I wonder if Wes Clark's actions in 2008 would make him an unlikely candidate karynnj Nov 2012 #31
It's Massachusetts. We can win that seat. democrattotheend Nov 2012 #36
Doesn't Richardson have ethical issues? RFKHumphreyObama Nov 2012 #37
I think Joe should move over to state hootinholler Nov 2012 #40
Bill Clinton? nt brush Nov 2012 #41

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,702 posts)
2. I was thinking Wes Clark, too.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:24 PM
Nov 2012

Kerry would be good at it but I'd rather he stayed in the Senate.

Or, why not Bill Clinton? He's respected all over the world.

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
4. I want Susan Rice.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:27 PM
Nov 2012

We need to run straight at the Republicans and give them a head butt on this contrived issue.

Why let the crazy right wingers dictate Obama's choice for SOS?

Fuck 'em over.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
26. She's my choice and you're so correct!
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:16 AM
Nov 2012

Who cares what the Republicans say or think? She served President Obama well, and she's no shrinking flower. Let them grill her.

By the way, I heard she got her information about Benghazi from the CIA, and guess who was head of the CIA and had to resign? Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
6. I agree about Rice but I think Kerry would make a fine SoS and
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:28 PM
Nov 2012

I don't think there's any reason to worry about losing that seat. At all.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
27. Brown still got a lot of votes and he's still got a sizable war chest.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:17 AM
Nov 2012

We should worry about him running for Sen. Kerry's seat should he be tapped to replace Hillary Clinton.

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
10. You guys make me sick falling for the made up
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:37 PM
Nov 2012

Benghazi crap. For three years you moan and groan about Obama bending over and then as soon as the right wing says "boo", you role over and bend over. Fuck that!

Stinky The Clown

(67,799 posts)
15. Okay then . . . .
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:10 PM
Nov 2012

. . . . how about something more direct. I think she is at the best position for her talents.

Its gunna be a long four years, huh Sol?

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
23. Those four years are going to be all too short.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:17 PM
Nov 2012

People will come to lament that we can't elect Obama for a third term.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
28. I felt that way the moment he won re-election.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:19 AM
Nov 2012

Four years had suddenly gotten terribly short in my mind.

Rockholm

(4,628 posts)
11. Bill Clinton. Perfect.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:43 PM
Nov 2012

If he wants it. I do NOT was Susan Rice or John Kerry.
If John Kerry is named, then there will be much pressure for my governor, Deval Patrick, to put Scott B(R)own back in the senate. Would like to see Barney Frank put up for the spot.

politicasista

(14,128 posts)
24. Wanna trade Senators?
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:00 AM
Nov 2012

Last edited Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:05 AM - Edit history (3)

It's not like you will care what Kerry says or does as Senator anyway.

As much as you always bash Kerry (Uncle Ted liked him. Obama likes him, so does Biden speaks volumes), let's trade Senators.

You can have two GOP senators in Alexander and Corker, a filthy rich GOP governor (he is really like Romney), a GOP controlled state house/senate, Teabaggers who get elected to Congress (one lied about his mistress' abortion, the others are Anti-Obama bat junk crazy), a heavy red Southern state (TN) where ignorant pols (some DINOs) don't care until every election cycle.

Give us Kerry and Warren, but keep Brown.

At least you are from a blue state. Must be nice to have a Dem delegation that works hard, but never appreciates its own Senior Senator.

As for the SOS job, the Senator is very qualified, but he is needed in the Senate.

There is no problem with AMB Rice. She would do a very good job. B. Clinton has done great job helping Obama and Democrats, but it's time for others to have their shine.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
34. No one would even think for a minute that the Democratic governor would
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:29 AM
Nov 2012

make Brown the interim Senator. Not to mention, he would STILL have to win another special election.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
17. Kerry wants the job and I think he will get it.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:12 PM
Nov 2012

Brown won't run again so soon. Lots of Dems in Mass will want that seat. It won't hurt the majority in the Senate now anyway.

Kerry has been lobbying for a long time and I think he is the front runner.

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/11/08/who_will_be_the_next_secretary_of_state

I will surprised if it is not John Kerry.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
19. I like Kerry too. I think he would be a great SoS.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:15 PM
Nov 2012

so would Susan Rice - it's nice to have such exemplary people to choose from.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
21. Yeah, lots of good prospects.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:19 PM
Nov 2012

I think Kerry being SFRC will have tons of experience. I want him as our next SOS. I am not worried about Mass this time. The people there had Scott Brown for a few years and rejected him in the end. All of New England is blue, House and Senate.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
18. Susan Rice is fine.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:14 PM
Nov 2012

They are going Ben Gauzy on everything anyway, so let them. Since when should a big decision like that be up to those fuckheads?

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,501 posts)
20. He didn't appoint Richardson the first time around because he was being accused of
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:16 PM
Nov 2012

corruption. Maybe someone here recalls the details.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
38. nope, his name was floated earlier
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:49 AM
Nov 2012

in another thread, and I was not the only one who approved! He has worked in the Obama administration before, so why not again?
I'm a big fan of him, he is one of the last old school republicans, and that is a breed about to go extinct (think Lincoln Chafee, for an example). He is a sharp guy, and I was very impressed by his presidential campaign and his themes in that campaign. By the way, there are several other Duers who feel the same way!

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
30. Surely there are other people out there.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:20 AM
Nov 2012

It's really sad that the same three or four names are the only ones mentioned for any given office.

How about someone under the age of 60, just for starters.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
31. I wonder if Wes Clark's actions in 2008 would make him an unlikely candidate
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:26 AM
Nov 2012

for Obama to pick. I remember that Obama was not impressed when he thought Clark went overboard in attacking McCain's military past. I have not completely followed what Clark has been doing, but I think he has not been all that active politically since 2008.

As to Richardson - no. He could not get confirmed when he was wanted for another position. In addition, he impounded the 2004 NM voting machines to avoid exposing the fact that the voting machines in a few Native American areas were set to NOT record votes for Kerry. (The reason was convoluted, but involved the weights given to different areas in NM Democratic primaries.)

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
36. It's Massachusetts. We can win that seat.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:46 AM
Nov 2012

And that is a stupid reason to deny John Kerry the spot. He has worked hard for Obama since the beginning, took a risk on him early on in 2008, and is very qualified for the position. He should not be passed over because of fears that we can't hold a Senate seat in Massachusetts.

There was nothing about Elizabeth Warren that made her so much tougher to beat than other Democrats in Massachusetts. There are plenty of well qualified Democrats who could run for the seat and there is no reason to think Scott Brown would be stronger against them than he was against Warren.

RFKHumphreyObama

(15,164 posts)
37. Doesn't Richardson have ethical issues?
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:49 AM
Nov 2012

I like him, think he'll make a good SOS but I thought that he had to withdraw from consideration from President Obama's first cabinet for that reason

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