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BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:39 PM Nov 2012

BREAKING 3:13 PM ET Iran Fired on Unarmed U.S. Drone in International Airspace, Pentagon Says

No further information on the New York Times website at this time.

See this link from Reuters: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/08/us-usa-iran-drone-idUSBRE8A71C520121108

(Reuters) - Iranian warplanes fired multiple rounds at an unmanned unarmed U.S. surveillance aircraft in international airspace over the Gulf last week, but the craft was undamaged and returned safely to its base, Pentagon spokesman George Little said on Thursday.

President Barack Obama and Defense Secretary Leon Panetta were both advised early on about the unprecedented incident, which occurred at about 4:50 a.m. ET (0850 GMT) on November 1.

Iran was later warned through diplomatic channels the United States would keep conducting surveillance flights in the region and would protect its military assets, Little said.

"The United States has communicated to the Iranians that we will continue to conduct surveillance flights over international waters over the Arabian Gulf consistent with longstanding practice and our commitment to the security of the region," Little told a Pentagon briefing.

"We have a wide range of options from diplomatic to military to protect our military assets and our forces ... and will do so when necessary," he added.

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BREAKING 3:13 PM ET Iran Fired on Unarmed U.S. Drone in International Airspace, Pentagon Says (Original Post) BainsBane Nov 2012 OP
My husband called me about that get the red out Nov 2012 #1
just now? BainsBane Nov 2012 #3
It happened on 11/1 and is just now being reported. n/t B2G Nov 2012 #4
They had a war scheduled and they'll be damned if they'll change their plans redqueen Nov 2012 #5
It was an unmanned drone B2G Nov 2012 #12
Corner? redqueen Nov 2012 #15
It was. Bad placement. :-) B2G Nov 2012 #17
Let me guess, over on Faux: "What did Obama know and when did he know it?" BlueStreak Nov 2012 #16
Why would we go to war over someone shooting at an unmanned drone? Fawke Em Nov 2012 #25
The stated excuses for starting wars are almost always pretexts. redqueen Nov 2012 #31
Oh shit. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #2
Back people into a corner, and they're going to fight back realgreen Nov 2012 #6
And this is true because the Pentagon says it is? Really?? nt. OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #7
They have video (hasn't been aired) B2G Nov 2012 #10
The question you have to ask yourself is where was the drone actually located?.... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #26
I Remember Something Like This... Oubaas Nov 2012 #8
The Democratic love sure didn't last long BainsBane Nov 2012 #9
And also Ya Basta Nov 2012 #13
Well, shit, here we go. Arkansas Granny Nov 2012 #11
Well...there were rumors that BiBi would wait until after the election... KoKo Nov 2012 #14
Wow Cheney and his friends really WERE pissed about the other day. nt progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #18
This isn't breaking at 3:13 ET. Fix your title. It happened on November 1st. n/t Avalux Nov 2012 #19
But it is only being reported now BainsBane Nov 2012 #28
This happened over a week ago. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #20
NO WAR WITH IRAN! Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #21
fuck the pentagon and the warmongers HiPointDem Nov 2012 #22
No harm, no foul.It wasn't like the drone was a wedding party. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #23
dude...this is a week old...knock the fearmongerring crap off tjwash Nov 2012 #24
the news is new BainsBane Nov 2012 #27
NO NEED FOR WAR. DRONES ARE NOT PEOPLE. NO ONE WAS HARMED. JaneyVee Nov 2012 #29
agreed, and I don't think they will go to war. nt BainsBane Nov 2012 #30

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
1. My husband called me about that
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:42 PM
Nov 2012

He said he got his call on air to disagree with the local RW radio jerk who was in the process of calling for war against Iran over it.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
5. They had a war scheduled and they'll be damned if they'll change their plans
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:46 PM
Nov 2012

just cause their 'yes man' lost!

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
31. The stated excuses for starting wars are almost always pretexts.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:32 PM
Nov 2012

In this case, I would guess it would go like this: They're shooting at drones, so they must be hiding something, it must be nukes, therefore war. (This wouldn't happen after one incident. They always start pounding the war drums slowly.)

The actual reason, of course, is something else entirely.

 

realgreen

(47 posts)
6. Back people into a corner, and they're going to fight back
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:47 PM
Nov 2012

Too bad this country didn't learn that lesson on Dec 7, 1941.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
10. They have video (hasn't been aired)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:52 PM
Nov 2012

Why would the Pentagon lie about it? What in the world would be gained? If the Pentagon is lying about his incident, then Obama is too. Have you seen a denial from the White House?

And what makes you think Iran isn't capable of this? Have you not listened to their rhetoric?

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
26. The question you have to ask yourself is where was the drone actually located?....
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:21 PM
Nov 2012

....was it truly in international airspace as the Pentagon claims, or was it actually flying a recon mission in Iranian airspace? If I'm not mistaken, Iran claims a 12-mile limit outside their borders. So, where was our drone located?

Additionally, we have a very long history of flying manned and unmanned recon missions inside the airspace of foreign countries. What do you know about the recon missions we flew into the old Soviet Union in the late 1940s - early 1950s? How about the U-2 overflights of both the Soviet Union and China in the late 1950s - early 1960s? What do you know about the SR-71, the successor to the U-2? I could go on, but I think you get the point.

Remember, the NeoCons are actively pushing for a military confrontation with Iran and they have allies within the US government, US Intelligence agencies, as well as the US military.

It would not be the first time the US military/US intelligence has stretched the truth about issues like this. Do you remember the Tonkin Gulf incident, or more recently, the claims of WMDs in Iraq?

And please don't be naive...neither the military nor the intelligence apparatus tells the President everything. This allows the President to have plausible deniability in certain situations.

One last point....we have an annoying habit of attributing all kinds of terrible things to the people we intend to attack. That goes back to how we treated the Native Americans from the second our ancestors made landfall in North America. If you don't know that, then you're not much of a student of US History.


 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
29. NO NEED FOR WAR. DRONES ARE NOT PEOPLE. NO ONE WAS HARMED.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:28 PM
Nov 2012

Imagine going to war because someone shot at a miniature remote control airplane.

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