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Hilary Clinton As Supreme Court Judge (Original Post) outsideworld Nov 2012 OP
sorry, we need a judge who will be around as long as possible nt msongs Nov 2012 #1
She's not that old--her mother lived into her nineties. nt MADem Nov 2012 #6
I hope so. I don't see her running for POTUS RandySF Nov 2012 #2
I don't think she would like the job. She is a people person - somewhat like her husband. patricia92243 Nov 2012 #3
Supreme Court justices have a short season--the rest of the year, they MADem Nov 2012 #10
No regnaD kciN Nov 2012 #4
I seriously think she is wants a break. Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #5
She would be the first to say she is not qualified. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #7
Compared to whom? Clarence Thomas? RandySF Nov 2012 #11
I don't think so--she's a lawyer, she's been in "the" lawmaking body of the US, the Congress, MADem Nov 2012 #15
I believe that she is as qualified as the next person. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #21
How about Chelsea instead? nt LaydeeBug Nov 2012 #8
Republicans would love it... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #9
With her genetic code, she could give the court 30 years. nt MADem Nov 2012 #13
And you know this, how? Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #16
Look at her MOTHER. MADem Nov 2012 #19
She also has her father's genes.... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #30
I'm bettin' on Mama. MADem Nov 2012 #35
I'm not arguing the chances of her living to be 100... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #39
I have a relative who will be 90 in four months, who is still teaching. MADem Nov 2012 #40
On that we are in perfect agreement! Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #41
did her mom have an equal level of stress? nt ecstatic Nov 2012 #47
More. She had stress from the moment of her birth, poor thing--a "Dickensian" childhood. MADem Nov 2012 #49
We need young judges that will be there for a long time. drm604 Nov 2012 #12
NO! She used to work for Rose which legally represented Monsanto. Clarence Thomas is enough! Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #14
and Obama used to work on Wall Street DURHAM D Nov 2012 #18
Google it yourself. Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #23
. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #24
I think he was trying to point out theKed Nov 2012 #52
That would be the mother of all confirmation battles. Dem2TheCore Nov 2012 #17
No it wouldn't. Senators take care of each other. That includes ex-Senators. MADem Nov 2012 #22
I agree with this. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #25
I rather see her making policy than Shankapotomus Nov 2012 #20
Love Hillary, but you should be a practicing jurist before you're ready for something like that alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #26
Nearly half the SC justices were not judges before their appointment to the SC. madaboutharry Nov 2012 #31
And unlikely to be the case in the future jberryhill Nov 2012 #32
Well, she used to make laws for the US of A as a Senator in Congress. She's a lawyer. MADem Nov 2012 #38
I'd prefer a liberal. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2012 #27
What positions does she take that are not in line with your idea of a liberal? nt. NCTraveler Nov 2012 #43
For a start: Her support of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2012 #44
Many people I consider to be liberal supported... NCTraveler Nov 2012 #45
Did you consider them "liberal" when they did? Did you consider the wars to be "liberal"? Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2012 #46
1)Yes 2)No. nt NCTraveler Nov 2012 #48
Hillary Clinton is 65 years old. madaboutharry Nov 2012 #28
I'd prefer someone in his/her late 40s to early 50s. hifiguy Nov 2012 #29
I want Hillary Rodham Clinton to do whatever the damn she wants to. She deserves any official northoftheborder Nov 2012 #33
I would love to see that. Pab Sungenis Nov 2012 #34
No she should run for POTUS or at least VPOTUS craigmatic Nov 2012 #36
We need someone younger SoCalDem Nov 2012 #37
too old cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #42
For pure angst-inducing drama -- madamesilverspurs Nov 2012 #50
i'd rather have her on the supreme court than running for potus in 2016. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #51

RandySF

(58,835 posts)
2. I hope so. I don't see her running for POTUS
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:18 PM
Nov 2012

In a space of 13 years, she gone from First Lady to the Senate, to the most brutal presidential primary in history to Sec. of State. She's still brilliant, but she's not young anymore and she's got to be tired. She's in good health and has a brilliant legal mind. I think the Bench is the perfect place for her.

patricia92243

(12,595 posts)
3. I don't think she would like the job. She is a people person - somewhat like her husband.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:18 PM
Nov 2012

To go from flying all over the world and meeting hundreds of people to sitting in the stuffy halls of the Supreme Court might not be her cup of tea.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
10. Supreme Court justices have a short season--the rest of the year, they
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:21 PM
Nov 2012

fly all over hell and give speeches and get paid well for it.

Why do you think they all look so happy? It's an EASY gig. The heavy lifting is done by one's staff. The tough bit is picking which decision one likes, and editing the verbiage to sound personal.

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
7. She would be the first to say she is not qualified.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:19 PM
Nov 2012

otoh she could point to examples of current members that should not be on the bench for that very reason.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
15. I don't think so--she's a lawyer, she's been in "the" lawmaking body of the US, the Congress,
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:25 PM
Nov 2012

and if anyone understands how the sausage is made, it's her.

She began her career working on Nixon's impeachment. She knows her way around the law of the land.

She's EMINENTLY qualified...

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
9. Republicans would love it...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:21 PM
Nov 2012

She's now 65 years old....they would figure to have another crack at her seat in 10 to 15 years...you have noticed the age of republican appointees, right?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
19. Look at her MOTHER.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:27 PM
Nov 2012

Born: June 4, 1919, Chicago
Died: November 1, 2011, Washington, D.C.

You can pick your friends, but you can't pick your DNA. She's got some good genes.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
30. She also has her father's genes....
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:40 PM
Nov 2012

He lived to be 82 and 5 days....if you figure that she wouldn't take her seat on the court until she was 66 or 67 my 15 year term is entirely possible. Besides, I don't think Hillary would want a lifetime appointment to anything....

MADem

(135,425 posts)
35. I'm bettin' on Mama.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:10 PM
Nov 2012

Women live longer than men, anyway. The actuarial tables don't lie. The rare bird in the nursing home is the male of the species.

If her father "only" lived to 82, that bodes well for a longer run for her.

That's a "lifetime" appointment for as long as the Justice wants it--see Sandra Day O'Connor (still alive and kicking, but retired from the Supremes).

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
39. I'm not arguing the chances of her living to be 100...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:48 PM
Nov 2012

I'm simply saying I don't think she would want to work at such a responsible job right up until her dying day. She has had a remarkable life, one filled by government service. If she decides to run for president she will have my full support. But I think she also wants to be able to enjoy life without the heavy responsibilities she's been carrying for decades. She has said in the past that she doesn't believe she is qualified to sit on the SCOTUS, perhaps that's her way of saying she doesn't want to.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
40. I have a relative who will be 90 in four months, who is still teaching.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 12:35 PM
Nov 2012

When ya like what ya do, why retire?

She likes public life--maybe she'd like a job with a little less travel.

Time will tell--I'll support her WHATEVER she decides!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
49. More. She had stress from the moment of her birth, poor thing--a "Dickensian" childhood.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:59 PM
Nov 2012

As a young teen, she worked for slave wages. She had a very hard upbringing, and she persevered. She was made of tough stuff.

Dorothy's childhood has been described as Dickensian.[6][7] The family lived as boarders in a crowded house.[6] The parents were dysfunctional and unhappy[8] and prone to sometimes violent fights;[6] they moved Dorothy amongst various schools,[3] and paid only sporadic attention to the children before divorcing in 1927.[4] The children were then sent on a train by themselves, unsupervised (Dorothy was eight, Isabelle younger), to live with their paternal grandparents in the Los Angeles suburb of Alhambra, California.[3][8][9] The sisters endured harsh treatment from their grandparents and Dorothy left home at age 14 at the height of the Great Depression, working as a $3-per-week housekeeper, cook, and nanny in San Gabriel, California.[6][8] Encouraged by her employer to read and go to school, Dorothy attended Alhambra High School, where she joined several clubs and benefited from two teachers.[6] After graduating from there in 1937,[10] she moved to Chicago for a failed reunion with her mother,[4][8] who by then had gotten married to Max Rosenberg.[11] Subsequently, she moved into her own apartment there and took office jobs to support herself.[3][4] She later said, "I’d hoped so hard that my mother would love me that I had to take the chance and find out. When she didn’t, I had nowhere else to go."[6] Hillary Clinton later attributed her interest in children's welfare to her mother's life as well as her belief that caring adults outside of family can fill a child's emotional voids.[6]


She's only been dead just a few days over a year, now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Howell_Rodham
 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
14. NO! She used to work for Rose which legally represented Monsanto. Clarence Thomas is enough!
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:23 PM
Nov 2012

Who is the FDA's man in charge of food safety? Michael Taylor. Prior Jobs? Monsanto Attorney, and Monsanto Vice President. In fact, in the Clinton, Bush, Obama years former Monsanto employees have held prominent government positions in the USDA, the EPA, the US Senate, the White House, and other offices. Hillary Clinton once represented Monsanto in her position with the Rose law firm. Politicians from both sides of the aisle get all excited by the prospects for economic growth and world dominance that genetic engineering seems to promise, but their glassy eyes overlook the huge potential dangers. This is not a political issue though, this is an issue about health, honesty, and the fundamental rights of citizens. Why don't the opponents want genetically modified foods labeled? Could they be afraid that if you knew you wouldn't want to eat them? The bottom line is that in spite of the political or economic interests, You Have A Right To Know What You Are Eating!

http://ramona.patch.com/blog_posts/its-hard-to-fight-43000000

Don't believe it? Google it.

theKed

(1,235 posts)
52. I think he was trying to point out
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:26 PM
Nov 2012

that trying to shift the discussion from her eligibility as a SC Justice to whether or not she has been hired by Monsanto in the past doesn't move the discussion along relevant lines.

So, who do you suggest? Is there a person out there qualified and recognizable as ready for the Supreme Court that doesn't have some connection to big business in their past? If so, whom?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
22. No it wouldn't. Senators take care of each other. That includes ex-Senators.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:30 PM
Nov 2012

The hearing happens in the Democratic-controlled Senate; the House has nothing to do with it.

It would be a load of Praise -n- Cakewalk.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
20. I rather see her making policy than
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:29 PM
Nov 2012

occasionally ruling on it. The Supreme Court would be a waste of her talents.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
32. And unlikely to be the case in the future
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:45 PM
Nov 2012

You used to be able to become a lawyer in many jurisdictions merely by working for a lawyer for X number of years.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
38. Well, she used to make laws for the US of A as a Senator in Congress. She's a lawyer.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:16 PM
Nov 2012

She took an oath to support, protect and defend the Constitution.

She has a good sense of international law as it relates to USA as SECSTATE.

She started out as a youngster in the House on the Nixon impeachment gig.

I'd say she knows her way around the barn.

She doesn't have to sit on a bench banging a wooden hammer while wearing a black robe to have the bubble on how laws are crafted and implemented at the federal level.

Finally....she's SMART. She'd be a good justice.

madaboutharry

(40,211 posts)
28. Hillary Clinton is 65 years old.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:38 PM
Nov 2012

The target age range for SC appointments typically is 45 to 50 years old. Presidents want their judicial appointments to be around for 30 years.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
29. I'd prefer someone in his/her late 40s to early 50s.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:40 PM
Nov 2012

I want a liberal who is going to be there as long as Justice Stevens was. No offense to Hillary, but this is for the looooong haul.

northoftheborder

(7,572 posts)
33. I want Hillary Rodham Clinton to do whatever the damn she wants to. She deserves any official
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:58 PM
Nov 2012

duty she might be offered, or she deserves to be the best grandmama in the world. She can volunteer, be private, be public. WHATEVER SHE CHOOSES I will forever admire her as one of the finest, bravest, most brilliant, most caring, women in the history of this country, and/or the world.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
34. I would love to see that.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:02 PM
Nov 2012

Hers is a nomination I could get behind despite her age. (I generally favor younger judges on the Court.)

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
37. We need someone younger
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:11 PM
Nov 2012

45-ish

I prefer that NO justice be under 60 to start, but as long as the rules seem to be what they are now, we need someone who can stay a long time.

madamesilverspurs

(15,804 posts)
50. For pure angst-inducing drama --
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:17 PM
Nov 2012

President Hillary Clinton appoints Barack Obama to the Supreme Court.

The collective anyeurism on the right would be something to behold...


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