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Adviser: Romney "shellshocked" by loss
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Romney was stoic as he talked the president, an aide said, but his wife Ann cried. Running mate Paul Ryan seemed genuinely shocked, the adviser said. Ryan's wife Janna also was shaken and cried softly.
"There's nothing worse than when you think you're going to win, and you don't," said another adviser. "It was like a sucker punch."
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Both wives looked stricken, and Ryan himself seemed grim. They all were thrust on that stage without understanding what had just happened.
"He was shellshocked," one adviser said of Romney.
the rest:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57547239/adviser-romney-shellshocked-by-loss
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)..like that??
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)bottomofthehill
(8,330 posts)working class hero's they are not
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
Best reponse EVER!!
defacto7
(13,485 posts)They couldn't possibly have thought they were going to win if they were apprised of the real data. If they were aware of what was going on before the election, they would have been prepared for both outcomes, or just the worst.
uponit7771
(90,344 posts)tokenlib
(4,186 posts)Yup, that stage was too nice for a concession speech...JUSTICE! But what is losing the presidency... to losing your job and the ability to provide for your family...
Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)Spock_is_Skeptical
(1,491 posts)Absolutely no sympathy here. Sounds like they were cocooned with sycophants and insulated from reality.
Guess reality's a bitch, eh??
pokerfan
(27,677 posts)Full of yes-men.
"If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking."
-George S. Patton
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)He would have chosen who Norquist and Adelson wanted. His secretary of war (why sugar coat it?) would have been a Bush retread, and the rest of them would have been bankers and businessmen, necessary to getting rid of regulations and taxes.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Tis the law of the cosmos.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)MadashellLynn
(411 posts)from feeling bad for them. Many thanks!
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)Ritchie Rich wasn't able to buy the election.
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)And from me!
valerief
(53,235 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Well Said!
MsFlorida
(488 posts)and I am happy that it happened to him
redStateBlueHeart
(265 posts)Two days later and their tears are still delicious
steve2470
(37,457 posts)LostinRed
(840 posts)AndyA
(16,993 posts)But it didn't bother Mitt enough to do anything about it.
MotorCityMan
(1,203 posts)DCKit
(18,541 posts)Yeah, I'm crying softly too.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)It feels so good to have him lose.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)barnabas63
(1,214 posts)...and family after the loss????
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)often there is a press team covering behind-the-scenes.... probably burying all that footage now
Turborama
(22,109 posts)Either/or will do.
Those were the 1st thoughts that came to mind when I started reading the OP. Wise minds etc etc...
Amonester
(11,541 posts)Or from anywhere else than Guatemala.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)Iris
(15,657 posts)montanacowboy
(6,089 posts)NO SWING STATE POLL SHOWED THEM AHEAD
WHAT FRIGGIN UNIVERSE WERE THEY LIVING IN? THEY BELIEVED THEIR OWN LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Skittles
(153,164 posts)they believe their own party's propaganda
blue_heron
(223 posts)slutticus
(3,428 posts)and money.
OregonBlue
(7,754 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,715 posts)gkhouston
(21,642 posts)loudsue
(14,087 posts)But when the SOS walked out and went home, I knew then that the "computer patch" that hadn't been "tested" that he was running on the voting machines was somehow not flipping the votes to Rmoney the way they were paid to do.
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)about how they were isolated in their own bubble (like the rest of the true believers) with their own pollsters and basically, believed their own party propaganda.
mrsadm
(1,198 posts)Patiod
(11,816 posts)and goes with his "gut".
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)only told him what he wanted to hear, ala George W.
RichGirl
(4,119 posts)...front and center inside the bubble that is FOX NEWS...sitting on top of Bullshit Mountain. The air is think up there...and smelly.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,838 posts)ItsTheMediaStupid
(2,800 posts)PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)Mitt hired pollsters to design polls that made him look like a winner. He even went parading into PA when the pollsters told him that the swing states were looking marvelous.
The people revealed the naked truth about Mitt on election day.
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)As John Kerry always used to say, "Just because you say it, it doesn't make it so."
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)sheshe2
(83,773 posts)they all thought Rove had purchased Ohio for them....hell look at the frantic clips of Rove on fox when it was called for Obama.
I firmly believe HE thought he bought the vote.
What they didn't factor in was the ground game of team Obama!
O team rocked!
uponit7771
(90,344 posts)Skittles
(153,164 posts)yes INDEED
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,706 posts)And Mittens has always assumed he could buy whatever he wanted.
Bertha Venation
(21,484 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)the article is great.
CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)Not even a small grasp on reality, even if he had to lie to his supporters (which should have been second nature)?
Wow.
Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)that the handlers kept them this isolated from the truth.
It supports the thought that there were plans for the election to be stolen--and them having plausible deniability about it.
mikeysnot
(4,757 posts)Stop Watching Fox News
winstars
(4,220 posts)HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)It is not the MESSENGER, but the MESSAGE that was rejected. One only needs to look at the Senate races to see that.
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)It reminds me of that last scene in Inherit the Wind where the William Jenninngs Bryant character was made a fool on the wittiness stand.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)yardwork
(61,622 posts)The Republicans will try even harder to suppress the Democratic vote next time.
Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)The elections need to be nationalized.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Rove was shocked too. WHAT, how dare those common people actually vote!!
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)2roos
(26 posts)People were willing to vote for someone that detached from reality - scary ain't it!
Buddaman
(503 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)I had no doubt about this outcome.
NONE!
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)The rich ones fire anyone that tells them something they don't want to hear, the rank and file just change the channel if they're at home. If they're not at home they shout the person down and if they don't have the numbers for that they leave.
Lots of them are pissed at Fox News for admitting Obama won, ferchrissake.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)surrealAmerican
(11,361 posts)We sure dodged a bullet this time. He'd have wound up just like W. Believing the spin from his "advisors", and never know what reality might be.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Sorry to hear that a healthy majority of voters sucker punched him, but those are the breaks. But given what Ann has told us about his mental state, I think that sedating him for awhile will help to protect Mitt, and the people and property around him.
Puglover
(16,380 posts)Take a trip to Freeport Williard and Anne!
FieryLocks
(110 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)They don't understand what happened????
Here's what happened, you freaks: an election was held - free and FAIR - votes were counted and the other ticket won.
I don't get why the confusion or bafflement. Somebody must have promised them a win and then couldn't rig machines.
Lex
(34,108 posts)stupid republicans
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)judges forcing dumb criminals to wear signs declaring their offenses before the world.
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)Were they just completely sheltered in a Republican bubble? Do they really have so little idea of what's really going on in this country? It's bizarre.
mzmolly
(50,993 posts)They'll be less "shocked" when reality hits them in the face.
mattclearing
(10,091 posts)So glad that it's over.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)I find that statement particularly enjoyable.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Is they are shocked because it wasn't stolen for them. They could tell by the small crowds that appeared at their rallies that the doom was coming. They should have known by ALL the lies they kept spewing were't going to hold for long. The only thing shocking to them was probably that they were told it was in the bag. Wink! Wink!.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)felt he no longer had anything to fear from the possibility of a Romney victory.
If he had actually thought Romney had a chance in hell of winning, you can bet Christie would have been kissing Romney's ass from here to Timbuktu.
The Romney camp took Christie's POLITICAL ACTION all personally. Those silly, self-entitled douche-nozzles.
GoCubsGo
(32,084 posts)We're still shell-shocked from the never-ending barrage of lies he spewed over the past several months. Good bye. Good riddance.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)and not just the ones that told them what they wanted to hear, they wouldn't have been surprised.
reflection
(6,286 posts)This will do him good in the long run. Mitt, if the biggest failure in your life is coming in second for the Presidency, you've had a pretty good life. Now suck it up and develop some fucking EMPATHY for people who have REAL problems to deal with.
calimary
(81,282 posts)Anyone suspected of being worth around a Billion dollars should be counting his blessings every day (instead of counting his money and all the hiding places for it) and down on his knees thanking God. And then maybe doing something really worthwhile with some of it. He'll never spend it all, anyway! His kids and their kids will never spend it all. His wife's ailments at their very ungodly worst would not exhaust it all. Wouldn't even come close. I can think of a few hundred thousand hurricane victims who could use a little extra help, and the Red Cross has always specified donations of money.
Hey, they're all still mighty fortunate even in the worst of times, as I'm sure you could describe this moment. At least they can cry all the way to the bank. I'm actually a bit glad for ayn. MS and heavy stress do NOT go well together. The job of First Lady is so damned demanding and pressure-filled that it would probably make her sick, or sicker, sooner.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)That you are that reality-challenged that you thought you would, is just ONE MORE reason you should have never been allowed onto the White House.
Satch59
(1,353 posts)I find it mind boggling that they thought they were going to win!! When were they ever up in any "REAL" polls they would have given them 270??? You are correct: there is no way they would have deserved to be in the White House!! I thought this article was a joke when I first read it...can't be true that they are that dumb...
argiel1234
(390 posts)Roves paperless electronic voting machines couldnt buy the election for you?
HAHAHAHAHA
oh yea, and big middle finger as well
I still hope Romney is investigated for tax fraud....put his ass on trial
Oh, and take Annfalka with you
Vinnie From Indy
(10,820 posts)and all the rest of the army of liars on the right.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)No they haven't.
malaise
(269,010 posts)Fugg 'em!
The 47% send their love - NOT.
tokenlib
(4,186 posts)Quantess
(27,630 posts)I mean, I can understand them hoping to win, but... was anyone actually surprised by their loss?
enough
(13,259 posts)then they are even more unfit to govern than I thought before. How would it be possible for them not to know everything we all knew all along? How gullible are they?
I'm not sure I actually buy it.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)NuttyFluffers
(6,811 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)AGAIN. Their analysis is the most thorough and sophisticated out there and they hit every state AND the popular vote percentages.
But they are bloodless number-cruncher types who care about little but the validity of their own statistical science. They do not live in fantasy land.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)May Ryan be so traumatized that he decides to abandon politics forever, and may Mitt just retire to La Jolla to play with his car elevator.
That is like icing on the cake.
They really were surprised, they thought they would win.
So delusional.
diane in sf
(3,913 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)and they fed him a steady diet of shit sandwiches, disguised as fillet mignon.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)Clueless to the end!
spooky3
(34,456 posts)If you cannot see problems accurately, there is no way that you can solve them.
P/VP are not good jobs for reality deniers.
young_at_heart
(3,768 posts)He has always gotten what he wants so he is in shock!
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)Liberalboy
(1,061 posts)You reap what you sow Mittens, and you have a lot of dark nasty energy that has to be paid for...
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)He's in his own refined, insular bubble, immune from the real world, surrounded by Yes men, and used to always getting his way because he feels he is ENTITLED to whatever he wants.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)Where he can simply fire someone when they disagree, or buyout and destroy their company if they don't kiss his boots. It's not the best formula for a politician.
All it does is leave you more vulnerable to the shock when reality burst your protective bubble. Ask George W Bush about that. It can be shocking when reality burst through that protective barrier and suddenly there's a shoe flying at your head.
madaboutharry
(40,212 posts)That statement really surprised me.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Makes one wonder if in fact he was never given feedback on all of his comments, especially comments on statements we all knew were lies.
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)were publishing every day for free that the rest of us had. All they had to do was take a look at the numbers. Where they that dumb not to even take a peek? Or did they look and discount it? Whatever. The information was there for one and all to see. They ignored it at their own peril. They were not alone, by the way. Joe Scarborough and others on the right did the same thing. Looks like Nate and Sam got the last laugh on this one.
As for Mitt and Ann being shellshocked...
that was pretty evident on Election Night when they wandered out on stage like a bunch of lost sheep. Even Mitt seemed uncharacteristically quiet and calm. (Was he medicated? We may never know, but he did have a kind of glazed look in his eyes.) And his speech was a bit too nice. If the words were his, he did come from a place inside that we've never seen before. More than likely, however, one of his underlings penned those words that have garnered him so much praise from all sides.
Now that the fireworks show had to be scrapped and Ann had to cancel the new china and drapes for her digs at the White House, may they all fade into the sunset and become footnotes in the annals of time. So long suckers. Don't let that screen door hit ya in the fanny, as we like to say here in the South.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)http://www.theonion.com/articles/i-want-to-congratulate-the-president-romney-says-i,30283/
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)would have prevented a lot of anguish, if he knew about a week ago that he was going to lose.
shanti
(21,675 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)and he believed it? Boo-hoo
butterfly77
(17,609 posts)After the first debate he thought he hit it out of the park when it was nothing more than the same old atring of lies he threw out there on the campaign trail for years.
The romney camp and the media took some made up numbers from Rasmussen and some of the other liars and began throwing them out their everyday when they were wrong. I never beiieved that Obama went down from7,8,9,etc..due to one debate.
The media is shocked like the romney's because they believe fox news.
Now,I want to see the picture from that room when they got the news.lol!
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)I figured the "we are winning" was all bluster, but there internal polling must have been really bad. REALLY bad. Someone's career is so screwn.
Hatchling
(2,323 posts)He totally lost it. I thought his eyes looked puffy and his throat was definatly hoarse, his complection gray and pasty. There was no life at all in his demeanor.
It took that long to patch him up and get him heavily medicated before he could do it.
crunch60
(1,412 posts)victory speech, so he had to pen than after he heard he lost. I heard he was very stoic when he heard the bad news, and Queen Ann and Ryan's wife were crying. I have NO pity on that group at all. Maybe this will teach them some empathy, although I doubt it.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)That, Governor Slick Rott's voter purge in Florida and other racist acts of voter suppression were the only things that would put The Twit in White House.
I agree. I think he was told he would win by some of these players that have deemed themselves to be- in my opinion to be anti-American for trying to steal the election. I hope more information emerges about some of these key players roles in the mass voter suppression efforts that were attempted.
He would win by any means necessary....and that would be ok because it was his destiny.
ha ha
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)He just couldn't believe he couldn't "buy" the White House.
Too fucking bad for him!!
He can go back to France, he is such a cork soaker!!
PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)Their decision to go for blue states like Pennsylvania and Minnesota in the last week of the campaign was not an act of desperation but of delusion. They really thought they had the swing states locked up.
These people are completely out of touch with reality. Imagine these idiots in the White House.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Cry me a river RR, you lying liars.
EC
(12,287 posts)They really were in that repub fox bubble...I wonder if they learned anything? Likely not. Rmoney should have learned the info they were being fed was wrong when Obama made a real fool of him before a whole bunch of people.
struggle4progress
(118,285 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)was actually going to work. Fucking lying ASSHATS.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)What a rotten thing to say because it implies that Obama didn't fight fair. Or do the mean the sucker punch was delivered by Romney advisors, who got everything so terribly wrong. Somehow I don't think the latter is what they had in mind.
WheelWalker
(8,955 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)or whatever it is that Mormons call Black folks in this country. A lot of Americans are still living in the 1950s, and they do not understand that the rest of us are living in the 21st century.
treestar
(82,383 posts)They really believed only their internal polls, perhaps.
proReality
(1,628 posts)sickwidit
(19 posts)Yep, that's the effect we were looking for. Now go away and stop ruining other peoples lives.
BVictor1
(229 posts)What's hard to understand about losing?
I suppose this is what they get for believing Unskewed Polls and Rasmussen.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)then they are definitely too stupid to hold political power.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)own idiotic statements and actions. Thick Head. Cement Brain. Dense.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Oops.
oldbanjo
(690 posts)japple
(9,827 posts)bluemarkers
(536 posts)they seem to forget we have vets with actual ptsd
gosh I'm glad we won
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Romney is the most insulated candidate in history.
We are talking a borderline sociopath, which you'd have to be to work in vulture capital. His advisers couldn't tell him the truth, which is he would lose big because being Not Obama wins when Obama was a shitty president and Obama is a great one.
So they made sure not to let Romney close to reality. They showed him polls which were less reliable than Soviet crop reports and made the same way. They never showed him a whole paper, just anti-Obama clippings. I am sure he saw all 12 of the endorsements from papers who endorsed Obama in 08 and Romney this year, but not the multitude of Obama endorsements. And I'm now convinced this is why Fox was Benghazi News Network for the last month: they didn't let Romney watch anything else, except maybe PG-rated DVDs.
This also explains Ryan's absence on the campaign trail: he knew, so they had to keep them apart.
When election night came and the emperor was seen strolling down the street naked, Romney came to realize not only the futility of his quest but the deceit of his advisors.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)he was kept in the dark.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)They kept warning, and still are complaining about, what Obama will do now that he is president. They campaigned against him like he was running for his first term. But the stuff they were saying was obviously false as he was already president and hadn't done it but could have. I think that probably cost him. I mean it might rally the base, but as far as moderates go, they'd have to look at those stupid warnings and think, "He is already president. He hasn't taken anyone's guns. Why are they warning that he'll take my guns if he becomes president?"
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)THAT's why they were SO SURE! Fuckers can't compete in a fair, free, transparent democracy.
Cha
(297,253 posts)because his Bain moved their jobs to China? I hope those people are able to find jobs and we keep getting our country on the Moving Forward Track!
I saw a comment under the article, kpete, that said something like.. "he was shellshocked?.. that shows romney wasn't competent to be president" That and there were a million other signs!
And, why the heck didn't they have a Clue they damn well could have lost? Bubble, anyone? Incompetence of the highest order?
Amonester
(11,541 posts)I'm just thrilled it happened to them at that exact moment and not once the fix-that-did-not-work would have, once in the WH...
Perfect Timing!
Cha
(297,253 posts)aligned as some would say.. like me. We're talking Call to Duty, Pounding sidewalk, working Hard on that Phone, and Lucky STARS!
TeamsterDem
(1,173 posts)Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)Couldn't happen to a more disgusting prick.
They were shocked because Rove assured them the fix was in!! As George Bush put it: fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me, Karl you ignorant fuck! But George fucked up the actual quote and I can't think in stupid and crazy!
demhottie
(292 posts)waddirum
(979 posts)...smashing head on into The Who's "Won't Get Fooled Again".
zentrum
(9,865 posts)...than not being able to have some prize they think they are entitled to. It's just about the only suffering they know. All other blows in life are so softened for them, they just aren't on their "worst thing" list.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)spinning at all.
Mr. Sinister
(89 posts)Could it be that there really was some sort of effort to steal a percentage of electronic votes and it either didn't 'happen' or wasn't enough? Their shock is amazing given how the polling data was obviously going. They truly believed the outcome would be different. Fascinating....
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)I can't see what they want to accomplish except to.....
show the donors and base that they were working it, and otherwise it's pure ego.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)and scared the bejeezus out of them as far as vote rigging goes?
diane in sf
(3,913 posts)Anyone with a firm grip on statistics knew they've been rigging votes since 2000 in the presidential and numerous congressional elections. Obama and his crew are so bright and aware that they probably figured out some way of neutralizing this. I think the same thing happened right before the 2008 election--Rove's prgrammer, Mike Connell, was on the verge of being deposed just a few days before the election. And Rove, who until that time had been saying in his columns that McCain was going to win started saying that Obama was ahead.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... i.e., PTSD.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)Either they really do live inside an info bubble or they thought the fix was in.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)yet big Bird had more people than Romney
lexw
(804 posts)I love it!
Caeser67
(156 posts)They would have known they were going to lose.
Forward.
Stewland
(163 posts)I cried tears of joy and relief . So glad that these two liars lost. Maybe their tears will help make them more human. They cry over their dreams of grandeur being lost. Others cried that very day for lack of affordable healthcare or enough food for their families,or for having their job sent to China. Real tears may just remind them that they are out of touch with most people on Earth, Real tears may just humanize them.
geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)Just zero.
Out of touch and unable to understand or accept what people say to them at face value.
tanyev
(42,559 posts)mountain grammy
(26,622 posts)or so it seems.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)The crap they put me through and the crap they put survivors of rape through was so bad. I have talked to survivors that were traumatized by Akin's remarks. I was traumatized as well even though I got out of a situation before anything real bad happened, it was still very scary. Any way they did a lot of damage to a lot of people. So, I hope it hurts and pay back is a...
Shilo
(101 posts)you reap what you sow Mittens
LeftishBrit
(41,205 posts)millions of dollars to fall back on.
zebe83
(143 posts)To lie to yourself is another. Another poster put it best. I always thought Repoblicans were smart, calculating and cunning. This group was a bunch of morons. Thank God we won.
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)They probably ONLY watch FAUX News and read Drudge online.
The rest of us knew that he NEVER led in the polls, although it was close one time after the 1st debate.
When you get all your information from liars, you tend to get disappointed. Often.
PatSeg
(47,468 posts)Romney really, really does live in a bubble. I know losing really sucks, but damn, how could he have thought that winning was a certainty.
Mira
(22,380 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)This thread is an instant classic.
Raine
(30,540 posts)sympathy whatsoever, the more it hurts them the more my pleasure. I can't forget the racist hate, the lies they spewed, the cruel attitude toward the majority of people in this country etc etc.
Bertha Venation
(21,484 posts)I can understand the shock.
Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)CountAllVotes
(20,875 posts)Randomthought
(835 posts)to help them through. Unlike the people they would have deprived of even minimal health care.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)dumbledork
(46 posts)...
CountAllVotes
(20,875 posts)How could these draft dodging low-life idiots know anything about what it means to be "shell shocked"?
& Welcome to the Democratic Underground!!
I am so very glad that We the People did not allow these vile putrid piles of scum steal the election!!
& recommend.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Deb
(3,742 posts)After awhile, you can't smell what you're covered in.
malaise
(269,010 posts)That backfired in their faces big time.
They misread turnout. They expected it to be between 2004 and 2008 levels, with a plus-2 or plus-3 Democratic electorate, instead of plus-7 as it was in 2008. Their assumptions were wrong on both sides: The president's base turned out and Romney's did not. More African-Americans voted in Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina and Florida than in 2008. And fewer Republicans did: Romney got just over 2 million fewer votes than John McCain.
Deb
(3,742 posts)it demoralizes their base and makes them less trusting of the party. You should hear the older men around my area whine...
sendero
(28,552 posts)Is it because you listen only to your own echo-chamber and have no real clue about anything? I think so.
The polls were startlingly clear that you were going to lose. Do you have a problem with reality?
AndyA
(16,993 posts)Wonder if Mitt thought about how many of those workers he's laid off over the years wouldn't be voting for him? Probably not. I don't think he gave any of them a second thought.
What goes around...
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Nonsense. He just needs a new battery.
AzSweet
(102 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Yeah.... if you're 12. Most adults are somehow prepared for loses and roadblocks.
But it's telling that they were so sure they would win. Pu-leez! They really are in another universe!
Adios Mitt!
When can we get Ryan completely out of the works? Midterms?
dem4ward
(323 posts)ClusterFreak
(3,112 posts)Thank fucking gawd this entitled, plutocratic asshole lost.
ItsTheMediaStupid
(2,800 posts)Instead of internal polling.
It's an easy mistake to make.
Uniblab
(25 posts)CRH
(1,553 posts)If you equate a campaign to a business, and you have appointed your top lieutenants, and you have no idea you are getting waxed when you have access to the most current information, what does this say of your ability to run a business.
If you can't buy your target with leveraged money, (OPM), dismantle it and sell off the parts, then send the carcass into bankruptcy, then do you manage a company like you managed your campaign. It appears your campaign was bankrupt when you thought it was flourishing. How does this reflect on you as a manager.
Aren't you happy he isn't running the largest business in the world, aka, the US Government.
Nothing more needs to be said.
Carolina
(6,960 posts)ellie
(6,929 posts)to by his advisors. Now he knows how it feels to be lied to.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)One of the first things you learn about campaigns is not to fall for that.
The only other thing besides everything that has been said here is that Romney thinks like a corporate owner more than a politician, which makes him especially susceptible to cockeyed optimism. It's what the business world runs on. Plus, people are always afraid to tell the owner the truth. You can't tell me not a single person in that campaign saw 20 Ohio polls with Obama leading and wasn't freaked out by it.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Its was all smoke and mirrors and Romney believed it.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)Honestly, I find that incredible. I mean it is one thing to spin total bullshit, it is quite another level to actually believe your own Bullshit.
These folks are incredible. But I guess if you think carefully about it what would you expect from science deniers like the Repukes? Slowly but surely their continued attempts to invent their own reality will lead to their own demise. I can hardly wait!
REP
(21,691 posts)hoboken123
(251 posts)They honestly believed they had all the momentum and would get an R+2 turnout.
They were legitimately surprised when the traditional D+6 turnout occurred.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)Living in the 16th century, are they???
Shellshocked like the workers at Sensata that had to train their Chinese replacement workers?
wordpix
(18,652 posts)These people are so clueless, living in their Richie Rich bubbles. R$ never had a path, he was like a wandering drunk in the wilderness, having no idea where to go, going this direction for the Tbags and that direction for the Kochs and another direction to be more in the middle. geesh. The R's need to go do some community service in a place where people are hurting and maybe they will get a clue.
Care Acutely
(1,370 posts)Just really, I'm so glad it hurt. I am.
"You people" just told her to cover it with 40 grit sandpaper and shove it up her ass.
0rganism
(23,955 posts)mmm, delicious republican tears. Sympathy? no, not this time. Sweetest schadenfreude i've experienced in quite some time, frankly.
spanone
(135,838 posts)now go away
Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)that's for all the dog whistles and the gross disrespect shown toward the president during the first debate.
jsmirman
(4,507 posts)out to absorb how hard they just caught it is delicious.
For the workers he fucked over, up in your bedclothes and face the end.
For the nasty, shitty, duplicitous campaign you ran, squint into the spotlight and blink.
I've tried and am trying not to be vicious in victory. And all the work remains - paper trail ballots, overturn Citizens United, get it through our thick fucking skulls that the midterms aren't some sort of exhibition game.
But this was one of the worst candidates and mean-spirited campaigns of my lifetime. There was no lie too big for them to shrink from it.
Love to see that Election Night reality was the one thing they couldn't lie their way around.
JI7
(89,250 posts)IL Lib
(190 posts)there was footage of Ann on the plane (also at a rally), and she didn't want to answer questions and looked as if she'd been crying. I believe they had been given bad news and knew they were going to lose. I'm sure there was the finality on election day, but regardless of what is being reported, I don't think they were thinking they were going to win. Body language a few days out suggested otherwise coming from the Obama and Romney camps.
What else is there to say when you have been leading donors to believe that your campaign was in a winning position until the very end?
Quantess
(27,630 posts)it was important to maintain the illusion that Romney-Ryan stood a good chance of winning, otherwise the cash flow would have slowed down.
Don't stop believing. It's the emperor's new clothes, where everyone went around saying how great the emperor's non-existent clothes looked, and even the emperor thought he looked great. Those clothes cost a fortune!
jsr
(7,712 posts)datasuspect
(26,591 posts)i said oops upside your head.
HA HA!