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kpete

(71,994 posts)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:43 PM Nov 2012

Adviser: Romney "shellshocked" by loss

Adviser: Romney "shellshocked" by loss

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Romney was stoic as he talked the president, an aide said, but his wife Ann cried. Running mate Paul Ryan seemed genuinely shocked, the adviser said. Ryan's wife Janna also was shaken and cried softly.

"There's nothing worse than when you think you're going to win, and you don't," said another adviser. "It was like a sucker punch."

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Both wives looked stricken, and Ryan himself seemed grim. They all were thrust on that stage without understanding what had just happened.

"He was shellshocked," one adviser said of Romney.

the rest:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57547239/adviser-romney-shellshocked-by-loss

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Adviser: Romney "shellshocked" by loss (Original Post) kpete Nov 2012 OP
Kinda like workers at factories who suddenly lost their jobs to Bain SoCalDem Nov 2012 #1
Exactly. It's too bad they didn't build their own stage first. myrna minx Nov 2012 #8
Well they did build their own coffin. Skidmore Nov 2012 #35
they would not know which end of the hammer to hold bottomofthehill Nov 2012 #96
^^^^^^^^^ COLGATE4 Nov 2012 #105
If true, they were all lied to as well. defacto7 Nov 2012 #119
+1! uponit7771 Nov 2012 #152
Reminds me too,of that commercial where the worker says they built the stage... tokenlib Nov 2012 #17
Bingo. n/t Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #27
+1000 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #48
+1,000,000. closeupready Nov 2012 #77
Thread winner in reply #1. Scuba Nov 2012 #79
My thoughts exactly. Spock_is_Skeptical Nov 2012 #92
Imagine what his cabinet would have looked like pokerfan Nov 2012 #128
Doubtful. jmowreader Nov 2012 #232
! Kadie Nov 2012 #94
Karma that bad will not be denied. hifiguy Nov 2012 #95
This is a perfect comment! liberalmuse Nov 2012 #113
You stopped me in my tracks MadashellLynn Nov 2012 #116
No kidding!!! You're completely right. Romney knows how it feels now. progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #130
kick that! docgee Nov 2012 #139
Excellent analogy! BlueMTexpat Nov 2012 #141
+1! uponit7771 Nov 2012 #151
Boom! You got that right! nt valerief Nov 2012 #159
Precisely Sherman A1 Nov 2012 #172
its a karma thing MsFlorida Nov 2012 #173
A-FRIGGIN-MEN redStateBlueHeart Nov 2012 #185
second frigging amen ! nt steve2470 Nov 2012 #227
nice! best reply LostinRed Nov 2012 #175
That was my first thought. Those outsourced workers felt the same way. AndyA Nov 2012 #176
Not as shellshocked as the country would have been had he won. MotorCityMan Nov 2012 #196
+10^9 D23MIURG23 Nov 2012 #217
Or the millions of pensions he's disappeared since 1984. DCKit Nov 2012 #229
Oh, you are so ON. Blue_In_AK Nov 2012 #230
Two words, Romney/Ryan a-holes: Nate. Silver. Sorry for your ignorance. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #2
Anyone have videos of Romney... barnabas63 Nov 2012 #3
good question - wondering if they were doing a documentary of his assumed-win from the inside tomm2thumbs Nov 2012 #78
Video would be great, I'd be satisfied with photos Turborama Nov 2012 #163
Maybe there was no service girl from Guatemala in the room... Amonester Nov 2012 #220
No sympathy. None. nt. OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #4
Same here. Good riddance. Go home now and leave us alone. n/t Iris Nov 2012 #212
HOW THE HELL DID THEY THINK THEY WERE WINNING???? montanacowboy Nov 2012 #5
same reason they thought Obama did not mention terrorists the day after the Libya attack Skittles Nov 2012 #11
Please Proceed.... blue_heron Nov 2012 #136
Software slutticus Nov 2012 #33
Agreed. KKKarl told them the "fix" was in. KKKarl was wrong. OregonBlue Nov 2012 #104
Karl knew the fix was in, but he did not count on people standing in line for 10 hours or more LiberalArkie Nov 2012 #147
^^ This. Now, the $64,000 question: did Anonymous catch them doing it? n/t gkhouston Nov 2012 #198
That's what I've been wondering. Karl Rove sure felt like he had it in the bag loudsue Nov 2012 #218
They underestimated how many people would turn out and stay in line long enough to vote. n/t gkhouston Nov 2012 #221
Rachel did a really good story on it Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #41
Wonder if you have a link? mrsadm Nov 2012 #164
Some businessman - ignores the market research Patiod Nov 2012 #70
Romney almost certainly surrounded himself with advisors who Blue_Tires Nov 2012 #74
They were.... RichGirl Nov 2012 #82
They deducted 2/5ths from our side. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2012 #85
Thanks for the chuckle ItsTheMediaStupid Nov 2012 #183
The emperor's new polls. PA Democrat Nov 2012 #93
they also think their ideas will save the economy of the country. ginnyinWI Nov 2012 #99
Divine mandate? McCamy Taylor Nov 2012 #102
They were in shock about Ohio! He would not concede for awhile... sheshe2 Nov 2012 #118
+1! uponit7771 Nov 2012 #155
that is proof they just do NOT listen to WE THE PEOPLE Skittles Nov 2012 #6
This is what happens when you believe your own bullshit. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2012 #7
+ 1 Bertha Venation Nov 2012 #170
I love this. Arrogant fucker meets reality. cali Nov 2012 #9
It's kind of scary how far into the RW bubble he was ensconced. CakeGrrl Nov 2012 #10
It is almost sinister Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #45
Ryan/Romney: Note to self mikeysnot Nov 2012 #12
Great POTUS he would make, NOT! The Bill Maher bubble I guess... Shocked, ahh, polling??? winstars Nov 2012 #13
They just don't get it HockeyMom Nov 2012 #14
They don't like me momma.... WCGreen Nov 2012 #15
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #51
They thought that they had successfully suppressed the Democratic vote. yardwork Nov 2012 #16
I wholeheartedly agree with this Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #56
That's what I think. MoonRiver Nov 2012 #84
Exactly. RedCappedBandit Nov 2012 #131
Detached from Reality 2roos Nov 2012 #18
Yes it is!!!!!!!!!!!! Buddaman Nov 2012 #52
Why are the righties the only ones who didn't know that they would lose? MrScorpio Nov 2012 #19
Because they're firm believers in shooting the messenger. JoeyT Nov 2012 #137
and they thought they could handle a world crisis?? Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #20
Right? Chorophyll Nov 2012 #36
Yup. surrealAmerican Nov 2012 #91
Get the tranq rifle out of the closet, Ann. He's having another episode. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2012 #21
Good. Maybe now he can relate to the thousands of people he has fucked over. Puglover Nov 2012 #22
Don't you mean 'Bainport' FieryLocks Nov 2012 #204
A more clueless, out of touch bunch I have NEVER seen. kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #23
Deny math at your own peril Lex Nov 2012 #24
They're a pack of liars and thieves: their public humiliation was no different than alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #25
Wow. He's just as entitled as the 47% he openly mocked. Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #26
Why did they ever think they were going to win? Chorophyll Nov 2012 #28
Republicans need to leave their bubble. mzmolly Nov 2012 #29
Just like a spoiled brat to be unprepared to lose. mattclearing Nov 2012 #30
Without understanding what happened?? HAHAHAHAHAAAAAA! Avalux Nov 2012 #31
The only way they should be shocked Politicalboi Nov 2012 #32
When Christie threw Romney under the bus, that was another way of indicating that Christie coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #148
Now he knows how the rest of the country feels. GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #34
I hope it burns hot for a long time you f*ckers! L0oniX Nov 2012 #37
If they had read the news reports they didn't like gollygee Nov 2012 #38
People worth upwards of $1B are not used to losing. reflection Nov 2012 #39
EXCELLENT post!!! calimary Nov 2012 #135
You were never going to win, you non-empathetic authoritarian assholes. Hissyspit Nov 2012 #40
exactly!! Satch59 Nov 2012 #64
Hey Romney and Ryan argiel1234 Nov 2012 #42
They have learned the folly of believing FOX News and Limbaugh Vinnie From Indy Nov 2012 #43
They have learned the folly of .... AlbertCat Nov 2012 #193
Cue the violins malaise Nov 2012 #44
If you begin to feel sympathy or empathy..take a dose of Sensata....n/t tokenlib Nov 2012 #46
Republicans actually thought they were going to win? Quantess Nov 2012 #47
If this stuff is true, if these people actually thought they were going to win, enough Nov 2012 #49
i heard he crapped his pants n/t Enrique Nov 2012 #50
oh, so that explains his tiptoe walk... NuttyFluffers Nov 2012 #216
Silver and Sam Wang were 100% right hifiguy Nov 2012 #53
Let's hope both Rmoney and Lyin' suffer from some severe PTSD! Surya Gayatri Nov 2012 #54
wow jenlucu Nov 2012 #55
They made the mistake of believing their own propaganda diane in sf Nov 2012 #57
He must have listened to his advisers TheCowsCameHome Nov 2012 #58
Poor thing! City Lights Nov 2012 #59
This is perfect evidence of why R/R would have been terrible P/VPs. spooky3 Nov 2012 #60
Maybe he will stop being so arrogant young_at_heart Nov 2012 #61
Good. GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #62
Karma buddy... Liberalboy Nov 2012 #63
This is so in keeping with what we all know about Romney: Arugula Latte Nov 2012 #65
Poor boy, probably crying in his jello right now Scootaloo Nov 2012 #66
no he's crying in his caviar and foie gras wordpix Nov 2012 #211
Surrounding himself with sycophants may have worked for him in the busines world. Lone_Star_Dem Nov 2012 #67
"And fewer Republicans did: Romney got just over 2 million fewer votes than John McCain." madaboutharry Nov 2012 #68
His handlers told him that no one was clued into the lies..."keep going, we're fooling them" Sheepshank Nov 2012 #69
They had the same access to the information Nate Silver and Sam Wang Grammy23 Nov 2012 #71
And his speech was a bit too nice AlbertCat Nov 2012 #195
should have read nate silver's blog La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2012 #72
one word for him: GOOD shanti Nov 2012 #73
So they lied to him too? Doctor_J Nov 2012 #75
He believed it because... butterfly77 Nov 2012 #90
Amazing. They really didn't know. wildeyed Nov 2012 #76
IMO that's why it took so long for the concession call. Hatchling Nov 2012 #80
Romney did not have a concession speech written beforehand, only a crunch60 Nov 2012 #228
Maybe he was relying on what Ohio SOS Husted told him about the fix being in Jack Rabbit Nov 2012 #81
yes riverSdawn Nov 2012 #206
That's why it took Romney so long to concede. Major Hogwash Nov 2012 #83
OMG. They believed their own spin and truly disbelieved the national polls. PA Democrat Nov 2012 #86
There is something worse. When you know you've won and it's snatched away from you. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2012 #87
Give me a break... EC Nov 2012 #88
After sending so many jobs to China, mebbe Romney has a political future there struggle4progress Nov 2012 #89
I am just overwhelmingly offended as an American that these lying Asshats thought their bullshit AzDar Nov 2012 #97
"A Sucker Punch" DallasNE Nov 2012 #98
Acute Involuntary Reality Syndrome. n/t WheelWalker Nov 2012 #100
Because he can not believe he lost to a descendent of Ham McCamy Taylor Nov 2012 #101
Strange, how could they not suspect? treestar Nov 2012 #103
Maybe they'll all stop believing everything they hear on FAUX now? n/t proReality Nov 2012 #106
"He was shellshocked" sickwidit Nov 2012 #107
"They all were thrust on that stage without understanding what had just happened." BVictor1 Nov 2012 #108
If they are so stupid that losing surprised them, Vattel Nov 2012 #109
Now I understand why he never looked even slightly embarrassed about his lunatica Nov 2012 #110
I always thought it was because he was told, it was in the bag. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2012 #157
They were not qualified for the jobs if they didn't realize that they were loosing. oldbanjo Nov 2012 #111
But..bu..bub..bu..bu...White Horse/White House...Joseph Smith promised... japple Nov 2012 #112
"shell shock" offensive to use that term with that bunch bluemarkers Nov 2012 #114
My thoughts jmowreader Nov 2012 #115
This seems plausible marions ghost Nov 2012 #208
The part that I noticed was this gollygee Nov 2012 #117
they thought the election was rigged in their favor fascisthunter Nov 2012 #120
"Sucker Punched".. just like he sucker punched All Those Workers who got FIRED Cha Nov 2012 #121
Living in Crystal Towers will do that one day or another. Amonester Nov 2012 #223
Yep..the Stars were Cha Nov 2012 #224
Good. I'm glad it's painful. Payback for Romney's gutting of jobs and industry. F*** em. nt TeamsterDem Nov 2012 #122
HA ha!! Zoeisright Nov 2012 #123
SHOCK johnq45 Nov 2012 #124
Karl you ignorant fuck!- love it demhottie Nov 2012 #129
GW veered wildly off the rode with that quote... waddirum Nov 2012 #238
Yup. Nothing worse for millionaires zentrum Nov 2012 #125
Thats what happens when you believe your own spin. LOL Obama the whole time wasn't southernyankeebelle Nov 2012 #126
thumb on the scale Mr. Sinister Nov 2012 #127
I don't buy it, this is just another set of lies but this time flamingdem Nov 2012 #132
Maybe the DOJ quietly called the SOSs in Ohio and Florida Matariki Nov 2012 #138
I tend to agree with you, or maybe the machines were counter-rigged by anonymous. diane in sf Nov 2012 #207
Shell-shocked... ReRe Nov 2012 #133
I want to know WHY exactly they were so sure they were going to win. Matariki Nov 2012 #134
the rent-a-crowds in all the swing states Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2012 #150
Got everything he ever wanted, except to be elected President of the U.S. lexw Nov 2012 #140
If they all hadn't being listening to and watching Fox News Caeser67 Nov 2012 #142
I cried too that night Stewland Nov 2012 #143
So.... they wanted to lead a country that they had no sensibility for. At all. geckosfeet Nov 2012 #144
Now he can ask the Mormon church to posthumously baptize his dream of the presidency. tanyev Nov 2012 #145
Money can't buy you love, or the presidency, mountain grammy Nov 2012 #146
If I could make their loss hurt more I would. Kalidurga Nov 2012 #149
Hopefully he will get permanent Romensia and we never have to hear from him again Shilo Nov 2012 #153
Not as shellshocked as all the people who lose their jobs due to right-wing policies and don't have LeftishBrit Nov 2012 #154
To lie to the people is one thing..... zebe83 Nov 2012 #156
Shows you how much of a bubble they live in Canuckistanian Nov 2012 #158
That is stunning PatSeg Nov 2012 #160
Karma never sleeps n/t Mira Nov 2012 #161
Great article. ProSense Nov 2012 #162
Kind of stings, doesn't it?? I'm sorry but I have absolutely no Raine Nov 2012 #165
"They all were thrust on that stage without understanding what had just happened." Bertha Venation Nov 2012 #166
Anyone have a picture of the crying Queen and her Princess? Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #167
awwwwww CountAllVotes Nov 2012 #168
they can afford a psychiatrist Randomthought Nov 2012 #169
and they need one, esp. if it's a Dem psychiatrist who can lead them to enlightenment wordpix Nov 2012 #210
I can't help thinking none of them have the foggiest clue what "shellshocked" actually means...n/t dumbledork Nov 2012 #171
right you are! CountAllVotes Nov 2012 #174
Exactly! He was "French-door-slammed-in-face-shocked." WinkyDink Nov 2012 #182
ha ha marions ghost Nov 2012 #215
It's amazing how Republicans always believe their own bullshit Deb Nov 2012 #177
Many of us challenged the BS about ReTHUG enthusiasm malaise Nov 2012 #189
There is one good lasting result to the GOP feeding false hope- Deb Nov 2012 #199
WHY DID YOU THINK YOU WERE GOING TO WIN? sendero Nov 2012 #178
No sympathy. AndyA Nov 2012 #179
"shellshocked" AlbertCat Nov 2012 #180
Couldn't have happened to nicer guys...yep...karma....nt AzSweet Nov 2012 #181
"There's nothing worse than when you think you're going to win, and you don't," AlbertCat Nov 2012 #184
Out of fucking touch. dem4ward Nov 2012 #186
You know, when you hear something like this, it really makes you think. ClusterFreak Nov 2012 #187
They used Interplanetary Polling ItsTheMediaStupid Nov 2012 #188
Yeah, they were shell shocked that all that money didn't buy them the presidency! Uniblab Nov 2012 #190
Romney shell shocked by loss, lol, ... CRH Nov 2012 #191
excellent post Carolina Nov 2012 #236
Well he was obviously lied ellie Nov 2012 #192
They actually used their own crowd sizes as a metric for enthusiasm? BeyondGeography Nov 2012 #194
I think his advisers were feeding him the same crap they were feeding the media. DCBob Nov 2012 #197
Did the folks up high like Romney really not know? jimlup Nov 2012 #200
Boo fucking hoo hoo. Ann is left with only one dancing horse; doesn't get to be Queen of the US REP Nov 2012 #201
2010 turnout model hoboken123 Nov 2012 #202
Divine Right of Kings is no longer a government policy, you idiots!!! Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2012 #203
... FieryLocks Nov 2012 #205
"We just felt, 'where's our path?'" said a senior adviser. "There wasn't one." wordpix Nov 2012 #209
Good! Especially the Queen. Care Acutely Nov 2012 #213
SALT FOR THE SALT GOD! TEARS FOR THE TEAR POOL! 0rganism Nov 2012 #214
proves how fucking clueless these people are.... spanone Nov 2012 #219
My favorite -- "It was like a sucker punch" Hutzpa Nov 2012 #222
Everything he's done and then everything he pulled, for that crew to be frog marched jsmirman Nov 2012 #225
Fucking Idiots , HAHAHAHHAHAH, just glad they felt the pain JI7 Nov 2012 #226
A couple of days before the election IL Lib Nov 2012 #231
Exactly. There was so much money funding their campaign Quantess Nov 2012 #233
Maybe he should take up drinking with W. jsr Nov 2012 #234
oops upside your head datasuspect Nov 2012 #235
Sure they were mighty confused. Rove promissed victory. montanto Nov 2012 #237

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
119. If true, they were all lied to as well.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:22 PM
Nov 2012

They couldn't possibly have thought they were going to win if they were apprised of the real data. If they were aware of what was going on before the election, they would have been prepared for both outcomes, or just the worst.

tokenlib

(4,186 posts)
17. Reminds me too,of that commercial where the worker says they built the stage...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:48 PM
Nov 2012

Yup, that stage was too nice for a concession speech...JUSTICE! But what is losing the presidency... to losing your job and the ability to provide for your family...

Spock_is_Skeptical

(1,491 posts)
92. My thoughts exactly.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:47 PM
Nov 2012

Absolutely no sympathy here. Sounds like they were cocooned with sycophants and insulated from reality.

Guess reality's a bitch, eh??

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
128. Imagine what his cabinet would have looked like
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:36 PM
Nov 2012

Full of yes-men.

"If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking."
-George S. Patton

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
232. Doubtful.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:14 AM
Nov 2012

He would have chosen who Norquist and Adelson wanted. His secretary of war (why sugar coat it?) would have been a Bush retread, and the rest of them would have been bankers and businessmen, necessary to getting rid of regulations and taxes.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
130. No kidding!!! You're completely right. Romney knows how it feels now.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:39 PM
Nov 2012

Ritchie Rich wasn't able to buy the election.

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
176. That was my first thought. Those outsourced workers felt the same way.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:34 PM
Nov 2012

But it didn't bother Mitt enough to do anything about it.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
78. good question - wondering if they were doing a documentary of his assumed-win from the inside
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:15 PM
Nov 2012

often there is a press team covering behind-the-scenes.... probably burying all that footage now

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
163. Video would be great, I'd be satisfied with photos
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:17 PM
Nov 2012

Either/or will do.

Those were the 1st thoughts that came to mind when I started reading the OP. Wise minds etc etc...

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
220. Maybe there was no service girl from Guatemala in the room...
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:21 AM
Nov 2012

Or from anywhere else than Guatemala.

montanacowboy

(6,089 posts)
5. HOW THE HELL DID THEY THINK THEY WERE WINNING????
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:45 PM
Nov 2012

NO SWING STATE POLL SHOWED THEM AHEAD

WHAT FRIGGIN UNIVERSE WERE THEY LIVING IN? THEY BELIEVED THEIR OWN LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Skittles

(153,164 posts)
11. same reason they thought Obama did not mention terrorists the day after the Libya attack
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:47 PM
Nov 2012

they believe their own party's propaganda

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
218. That's what I've been wondering. Karl Rove sure felt like he had it in the bag
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:11 AM
Nov 2012

But when the SOS walked out and went home, I knew then that the "computer patch" that hadn't been "tested" that he was running on the voting machines was somehow not flipping the votes to Rmoney the way they were paid to do.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
41. Rachel did a really good story on it
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:51 PM
Nov 2012

about how they were isolated in their own bubble (like the rest of the true believers) with their own pollsters and basically, believed their own party propaganda.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
74. Romney almost certainly surrounded himself with advisors who
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:12 PM
Nov 2012

only told him what he wanted to hear, ala George W.

RichGirl

(4,119 posts)
82. They were....
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:26 PM
Nov 2012

...front and center inside the bubble that is FOX NEWS...sitting on top of Bullshit Mountain. The air is think up there...and smelly.

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
93. The emperor's new polls.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:49 PM
Nov 2012

Mitt hired pollsters to design polls that made him look like a winner. He even went parading into PA when the pollsters told him that the swing states were looking marvelous.

The people revealed the naked truth about Mitt on election day.


ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
99. they also think their ideas will save the economy of the country.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:01 PM
Nov 2012

As John Kerry always used to say, "Just because you say it, it doesn't make it so."

sheshe2

(83,773 posts)
118. They were in shock about Ohio! He would not concede for awhile...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:22 PM
Nov 2012

they all thought Rove had purchased Ohio for them....hell look at the frantic clips of Rove on fox when it was called for Obama.
I firmly believe HE thought he bought the vote.

What they didn't factor in was the ground game of team Obama!
O team rocked!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,706 posts)
7. This is what happens when you believe your own bullshit.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:46 PM
Nov 2012

And Mittens has always assumed he could buy whatever he wanted.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
10. It's kind of scary how far into the RW bubble he was ensconced.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:47 PM
Nov 2012

Not even a small grasp on reality, even if he had to lie to his supporters (which should have been second nature)?

Wow.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
45. It is almost sinister
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:53 PM
Nov 2012

that the handlers kept them this isolated from the truth.

It supports the thought that there were plans for the election to be stolen--and them having plausible deniability about it.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
14. They just don't get it
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:47 PM
Nov 2012

It is not the MESSENGER, but the MESSAGE that was rejected. One only needs to look at the Senate races to see that.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
15. They don't like me momma....
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:48 PM
Nov 2012

It reminds me of that last scene in Inherit the Wind where the William Jenninngs Bryant character was made a fool on the wittiness stand.

yardwork

(61,622 posts)
16. They thought that they had successfully suppressed the Democratic vote.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:48 PM
Nov 2012

The Republicans will try even harder to suppress the Democratic vote next time.

2roos

(26 posts)
18. Detached from Reality
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:48 PM
Nov 2012

People were willing to vote for someone that detached from reality - scary ain't it!

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
19. Why are the righties the only ones who didn't know that they would lose?
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:48 PM
Nov 2012

I had no doubt about this outcome.

NONE!

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
137. Because they're firm believers in shooting the messenger.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:45 PM
Nov 2012

The rich ones fire anyone that tells them something they don't want to hear, the rank and file just change the channel if they're at home. If they're not at home they shout the person down and if they don't have the numbers for that they leave.

Lots of them are pissed at Fox News for admitting Obama won, ferchrissake.

surrealAmerican

(11,361 posts)
91. Yup.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:44 PM
Nov 2012

We sure dodged a bullet this time. He'd have wound up just like W. Believing the spin from his "advisors", and never know what reality might be.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
21. Get the tranq rifle out of the closet, Ann. He's having another episode.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:48 PM
Nov 2012

Sorry to hear that a healthy majority of voters sucker punched him, but those are the breaks. But given what Ann has told us about his mental state, I think that sedating him for awhile will help to protect Mitt, and the people and property around him.

Puglover

(16,380 posts)
22. Good. Maybe now he can relate to the thousands of people he has fucked over.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:49 PM
Nov 2012

Take a trip to Freeport Williard and Anne!

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
23. A more clueless, out of touch bunch I have NEVER seen.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:49 PM
Nov 2012

They don't understand what happened????

Here's what happened, you freaks: an election was held - free and FAIR - votes were counted and the other ticket won.

I don't get why the confusion or bafflement. Somebody must have promised them a win and then couldn't rig machines.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
25. They're a pack of liars and thieves: their public humiliation was no different than
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:49 PM
Nov 2012

judges forcing dumb criminals to wear signs declaring their offenses before the world.

Chorophyll

(5,179 posts)
28. Why did they ever think they were going to win?
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:49 PM
Nov 2012

Were they just completely sheltered in a Republican bubble? Do they really have so little idea of what's really going on in this country? It's bizarre.

mzmolly

(50,993 posts)
29. Republicans need to leave their bubble.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:49 PM
Nov 2012

They'll be less "shocked" when reality hits them in the face.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
31. Without understanding what happened?? HAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:49 PM
Nov 2012

I find that statement particularly enjoyable.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
32. The only way they should be shocked
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:49 PM
Nov 2012

Is they are shocked because it wasn't stolen for them. They could tell by the small crowds that appeared at their rallies that the doom was coming. They should have known by ALL the lies they kept spewing were't going to hold for long. The only thing shocking to them was probably that they were told it was in the bag. Wink! Wink!.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
148. When Christie threw Romney under the bus, that was another way of indicating that Christie
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:59 PM
Nov 2012

felt he no longer had anything to fear from the possibility of a Romney victory.

If he had actually thought Romney had a chance in hell of winning, you can bet Christie would have been kissing Romney's ass from here to Timbuktu.

The Romney camp took Christie's POLITICAL ACTION all personally. Those silly, self-entitled douche-nozzles.

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
34. Now he knows how the rest of the country feels.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:50 PM
Nov 2012

We're still shell-shocked from the never-ending barrage of lies he spewed over the past several months. Good bye. Good riddance.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
38. If they had read the news reports they didn't like
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:50 PM
Nov 2012

and not just the ones that told them what they wanted to hear, they wouldn't have been surprised.

reflection

(6,286 posts)
39. People worth upwards of $1B are not used to losing.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:50 PM
Nov 2012

This will do him good in the long run. Mitt, if the biggest failure in your life is coming in second for the Presidency, you've had a pretty good life. Now suck it up and develop some fucking EMPATHY for people who have REAL problems to deal with.

calimary

(81,282 posts)
135. EXCELLENT post!!!
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:43 PM
Nov 2012

Anyone suspected of being worth around a Billion dollars should be counting his blessings every day (instead of counting his money and all the hiding places for it) and down on his knees thanking God. And then maybe doing something really worthwhile with some of it. He'll never spend it all, anyway! His kids and their kids will never spend it all. His wife's ailments at their very ungodly worst would not exhaust it all. Wouldn't even come close. I can think of a few hundred thousand hurricane victims who could use a little extra help, and the Red Cross has always specified donations of money.

Hey, they're all still mighty fortunate even in the worst of times, as I'm sure you could describe this moment. At least they can cry all the way to the bank. I'm actually a bit glad for ayn. MS and heavy stress do NOT go well together. The job of First Lady is so damned demanding and pressure-filled that it would probably make her sick, or sicker, sooner.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
40. You were never going to win, you non-empathetic authoritarian assholes.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:50 PM
Nov 2012

That you are that reality-challenged that you thought you would, is just ONE MORE reason you should have never been allowed onto the White House.

Satch59

(1,353 posts)
64. exactly!!
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:04 PM
Nov 2012

I find it mind boggling that they thought they were going to win!! When were they ever up in any "REAL" polls they would have given them 270??? You are correct: there is no way they would have deserved to be in the White House!! I thought this article was a joke when I first read it...can't be true that they are that dumb...

 

argiel1234

(390 posts)
42. Hey Romney and Ryan
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:51 PM
Nov 2012

Roves paperless electronic voting machines couldnt buy the election for you?


HAHAHAHAHA


oh yea, and big middle finger as well


I still hope Romney is investigated for tax fraud....put his ass on trial


Oh, and take Annfalka with you


Vinnie From Indy

(10,820 posts)
43. They have learned the folly of believing FOX News and Limbaugh
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:52 PM
Nov 2012

and all the rest of the army of liars on the right.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
47. Republicans actually thought they were going to win?
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:53 PM
Nov 2012

I mean, I can understand them hoping to win, but... was anyone actually surprised by their loss?

enough

(13,259 posts)
49. If this stuff is true, if these people actually thought they were going to win,
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:54 PM
Nov 2012

then they are even more unfit to govern than I thought before. How would it be possible for them not to know everything we all knew all along? How gullible are they?

I'm not sure I actually buy it.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
53. Silver and Sam Wang were 100% right
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:57 PM
Nov 2012

AGAIN. Their analysis is the most thorough and sophisticated out there and they hit every state AND the popular vote percentages.

But they are bloodless number-cruncher types who care about little but the validity of their own statistical science. They do not live in fantasy land.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
54. Let's hope both Rmoney and Lyin' suffer from some severe PTSD!
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:58 PM
Nov 2012

May Ryan be so traumatized that he decides to abandon politics forever, and may Mitt just retire to La Jolla to play with his car elevator.

jenlucu

(29 posts)
55. wow
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:58 PM
Nov 2012

That is like icing on the cake.
They really were surprised, they thought they would win.
So delusional.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
58. He must have listened to his advisers
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:00 PM
Nov 2012

and they fed him a steady diet of shit sandwiches, disguised as fillet mignon.

spooky3

(34,456 posts)
60. This is perfect evidence of why R/R would have been terrible P/VPs.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:01 PM
Nov 2012

If you cannot see problems accurately, there is no way that you can solve them.

P/VP are not good jobs for reality deniers.

Liberalboy

(1,061 posts)
63. Karma buddy...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:04 PM
Nov 2012

You reap what you sow Mittens, and you have a lot of dark nasty energy that has to be paid for...

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
65. This is so in keeping with what we all know about Romney:
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:06 PM
Nov 2012

He's in his own refined, insular bubble, immune from the real world, surrounded by Yes men, and used to always getting his way because he feels he is ENTITLED to whatever he wants.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
67. Surrounding himself with sycophants may have worked for him in the busines world.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:07 PM
Nov 2012

Where he can simply fire someone when they disagree, or buyout and destroy their company if they don't kiss his boots. It's not the best formula for a politician.

All it does is leave you more vulnerable to the shock when reality burst your protective bubble. Ask George W Bush about that. It can be shocking when reality burst through that protective barrier and suddenly there's a shoe flying at your head.

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
68. "And fewer Republicans did: Romney got just over 2 million fewer votes than John McCain."
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:07 PM
Nov 2012

That statement really surprised me.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
69. His handlers told him that no one was clued into the lies..."keep going, we're fooling them"
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:08 PM
Nov 2012

Makes one wonder if in fact he was never given feedback on all of his comments, especially comments on statements we all knew were lies.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
71. They had the same access to the information Nate Silver and Sam Wang
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:09 PM
Nov 2012

were publishing every day for free that the rest of us had. All they had to do was take a look at the numbers. Where they that dumb not to even take a peek? Or did they look and discount it? Whatever. The information was there for one and all to see. They ignored it at their own peril. They were not alone, by the way. Joe Scarborough and others on the right did the same thing. Looks like Nate and Sam got the last laugh on this one.

As for Mitt and Ann being shellshocked...


that was pretty evident on Election Night when they wandered out on stage like a bunch of lost sheep. Even Mitt seemed uncharacteristically quiet and calm. (Was he medicated? We may never know, but he did have a kind of glazed look in his eyes.) And his speech was a bit too nice. If the words were his, he did come from a place inside that we've never seen before. More than likely, however, one of his underlings penned those words that have garnered him so much praise from all sides.

Now that the fireworks show had to be scrapped and Ann had to cancel the new china and drapes for her digs at the White House, may they all fade into the sunset and become footnotes in the annals of time. So long suckers. Don't let that screen door hit ya in the fanny, as we like to say here in the South.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
72. should have read nate silver's blog
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:10 PM
Nov 2012

would have prevented a lot of anguish, if he knew about a week ago that he was going to lose.

 

butterfly77

(17,609 posts)
90. He believed it because...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:42 PM
Nov 2012

After the first debate he thought he hit it out of the park when it was nothing more than the same old atring of lies he threw out there on the campaign trail for years.

The romney camp and the media took some made up numbers from Rasmussen and some of the other liars and began throwing them out their everyday when they were wrong. I never beiieved that Obama went down from7,8,9,etc..due to one debate.


The media is shocked like the romney's because they believe fox news.

Now,I want to see the picture from that room when they got the news.lol!

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
76. Amazing. They really didn't know.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:13 PM
Nov 2012

I figured the "we are winning" was all bluster, but there internal polling must have been really bad. REALLY bad. Someone's career is so screwn.

Hatchling

(2,323 posts)
80. IMO that's why it took so long for the concession call.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:21 PM
Nov 2012

He totally lost it. I thought his eyes looked puffy and his throat was definatly hoarse, his complection gray and pasty. There was no life at all in his demeanor.

It took that long to patch him up and get him heavily medicated before he could do it.

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
228. Romney did not have a concession speech written beforehand, only a
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:56 AM
Nov 2012

victory speech, so he had to pen than after he heard he lost. I heard he was very stoic when he heard the bad news, and Queen Ann and Ryan's wife were crying. I have NO pity on that group at all. Maybe this will teach them some empathy, although I doubt it.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
81. Maybe he was relying on what Ohio SOS Husted told him about the fix being in
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:21 PM
Nov 2012

That, Governor Slick Rott's voter purge in Florida and other racist acts of voter suppression were the only things that would put The Twit in White House.

riverSdawn

(9 posts)
206. yes
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:57 PM
Nov 2012

I agree. I think he was told he would win by some of these players that have deemed themselves to be- in my opinion to be anti-American for trying to steal the election. I hope more information emerges about some of these key players roles in the mass voter suppression efforts that were attempted.

He would win by any means necessary....and that would be ok because it was his destiny.
ha ha

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
83. That's why it took Romney so long to concede.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:29 PM
Nov 2012

He just couldn't believe he couldn't "buy" the White House.
Too fucking bad for him!!

He can go back to France, he is such a cork soaker!!

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
86. OMG. They believed their own spin and truly disbelieved the national polls.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:32 PM
Nov 2012

Their decision to go for blue states like Pennsylvania and Minnesota in the last week of the campaign was not an act of desperation but of delusion. They really thought they had the swing states locked up.


These people are completely out of touch with reality. Imagine these idiots in the White House.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
87. There is something worse. When you know you've won and it's snatched away from you.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:32 PM
Nov 2012

Cry me a river RR, you lying liars.

EC

(12,287 posts)
88. Give me a break...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:35 PM
Nov 2012

They really were in that repub fox bubble...I wonder if they learned anything? Likely not. Rmoney should have learned the info they were being fed was wrong when Obama made a real fool of him before a whole bunch of people.

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
97. I am just overwhelmingly offended as an American that these lying Asshats thought their bullshit
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:00 PM
Nov 2012

was actually going to work. Fucking lying ASSHATS.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
98. "A Sucker Punch"
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:00 PM
Nov 2012

What a rotten thing to say because it implies that Obama didn't fight fair. Or do the mean the sucker punch was delivered by Romney advisors, who got everything so terribly wrong. Somehow I don't think the latter is what they had in mind.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
101. Because he can not believe he lost to a descendent of Ham
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:02 PM
Nov 2012

or whatever it is that Mormons call Black folks in this country. A lot of Americans are still living in the 1950s, and they do not understand that the rest of us are living in the 21st century.

sickwidit

(19 posts)
107. "He was shellshocked"
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:10 PM
Nov 2012

Yep, that's the effect we were looking for. Now go away and stop ruining other peoples lives.

 

BVictor1

(229 posts)
108. "They all were thrust on that stage without understanding what had just happened."
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:10 PM
Nov 2012

What's hard to understand about losing?

I suppose this is what they get for believing Unskewed Polls and Rasmussen.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
109. If they are so stupid that losing surprised them,
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:10 PM
Nov 2012

then they are definitely too stupid to hold political power.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
110. Now I understand why he never looked even slightly embarrassed about his
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:13 PM
Nov 2012

own idiotic statements and actions. Thick Head. Cement Brain. Dense.

bluemarkers

(536 posts)
114. "shell shock" offensive to use that term with that bunch
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:16 PM
Nov 2012

they seem to forget we have vets with actual ptsd

gosh I'm glad we won










jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
115. My thoughts
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:19 PM
Nov 2012

Romney is the most insulated candidate in history.

We are talking a borderline sociopath, which you'd have to be to work in vulture capital. His advisers couldn't tell him the truth, which is he would lose big because being Not Obama wins when Obama was a shitty president and Obama is a great one.

So they made sure not to let Romney close to reality. They showed him polls which were less reliable than Soviet crop reports and made the same way. They never showed him a whole paper, just anti-Obama clippings. I am sure he saw all 12 of the endorsements from papers who endorsed Obama in 08 and Romney this year, but not the multitude of Obama endorsements. And I'm now convinced this is why Fox was Benghazi News Network for the last month: they didn't let Romney watch anything else, except maybe PG-rated DVDs.

This also explains Ryan's absence on the campaign trail: he knew, so they had to keep them apart.

When election night came and the emperor was seen strolling down the street naked, Romney came to realize not only the futility of his quest but the deceit of his advisors.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
117. The part that I noticed was this
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:20 PM
Nov 2012
3. Undecided voters. The perception is they always break for the challenger, since people know the incumbent and would have decided already if they were backing him. Romney was counting on that trend to continue. Instead, exit polls show Mr. Obama won among people who made up their minds on Election Day and in the few days before the election. So maybe Romney, after running for six years, was in the same position as the incumbent.

They kept warning, and still are complaining about, what Obama will do now that he is president. They campaigned against him like he was running for his first term. But the stuff they were saying was obviously false as he was already president and hadn't done it but could have. I think that probably cost him. I mean it might rally the base, but as far as moderates go, they'd have to look at those stupid warnings and think, "He is already president. He hasn't taken anyone's guns. Why are they warning that he'll take my guns if he becomes president?"
 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
120. they thought the election was rigged in their favor
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:26 PM
Nov 2012

THAT's why they were SO SURE! Fuckers can't compete in a fair, free, transparent democracy.

Cha

(297,253 posts)
121. "Sucker Punched".. just like he sucker punched All Those Workers who got FIRED
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:28 PM
Nov 2012

because his Bain moved their jobs to China? I hope those people are able to find jobs and we keep getting our country on the Moving Forward Track!

I saw a comment under the article, kpete, that said something like.. "he was shellshocked?.. that shows romney wasn't competent to be president" That and there were a million other signs!

And, why the heck didn't they have a Clue they damn well could have lost? Bubble, anyone? Incompetence of the highest order?

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
223. Living in Crystal Towers will do that one day or another.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:57 AM
Nov 2012

I'm just thrilled it happened to them at that exact moment and not once the fix-that-did-not-work would have, once in the WH...

Perfect Timing!

Cha

(297,253 posts)
224. Yep..the Stars were
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:13 AM
Nov 2012

aligned as some would say.. like me. We're talking Call to Duty, Pounding sidewalk, working Hard on that Phone, and Lucky STARS!

 

johnq45

(33 posts)
124. SHOCK
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:32 PM
Nov 2012

They were shocked because Rove assured them the fix was in!! As George Bush put it: fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me, Karl you ignorant fuck! But George fucked up the actual quote and I can't think in stupid and crazy!

waddirum

(979 posts)
238. GW veered wildly off the rode with that quote...
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:21 PM
Nov 2012

...smashing head on into The Who's "Won't Get Fooled Again".

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
125. Yup. Nothing worse for millionaires
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:35 PM
Nov 2012

...than not being able to have some prize they think they are entitled to. It's just about the only suffering they know. All other blows in life are so softened for them, they just aren't on their "worst thing" list.

Mr. Sinister

(89 posts)
127. thumb on the scale
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:36 PM
Nov 2012

Could it be that there really was some sort of effort to steal a percentage of electronic votes and it either didn't 'happen' or wasn't enough? Their shock is amazing given how the polling data was obviously going. They truly believed the outcome would be different. Fascinating....

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
132. I don't buy it, this is just another set of lies but this time
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:42 PM
Nov 2012

I can't see what they want to accomplish except to.....

show the donors and base that they were working it, and otherwise it's pure ego.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
138. Maybe the DOJ quietly called the SOSs in Ohio and Florida
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:45 PM
Nov 2012

and scared the bejeezus out of them as far as vote rigging goes?

diane in sf

(3,913 posts)
207. I tend to agree with you, or maybe the machines were counter-rigged by anonymous.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:03 PM
Nov 2012

Anyone with a firm grip on statistics knew they've been rigging votes since 2000 in the presidential and numerous congressional elections. Obama and his crew are so bright and aware that they probably figured out some way of neutralizing this. I think the same thing happened right before the 2008 election--Rove's prgrammer, Mike Connell, was on the verge of being deposed just a few days before the election. And Rove, who until that time had been saying in his columns that McCain was going to win started saying that Obama was ahead.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
134. I want to know WHY exactly they were so sure they were going to win.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:43 PM
Nov 2012

Either they really do live inside an info bubble or they thought the fix was in.

Caeser67

(156 posts)
142. If they all hadn't being listening to and watching Fox News
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:51 PM
Nov 2012

They would have known they were going to lose.

Forward.

 

Stewland

(163 posts)
143. I cried too that night
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:51 PM
Nov 2012

I cried tears of joy and relief . So glad that these two liars lost. Maybe their tears will help make them more human. They cry over their dreams of grandeur being lost. Others cried that very day for lack of affordable healthcare or enough food for their families,or for having their job sent to China. Real tears may just remind them that they are out of touch with most people on Earth, Real tears may just humanize them.

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
144. So.... they wanted to lead a country that they had no sensibility for. At all.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:54 PM
Nov 2012

Just zero.

Out of touch and unable to understand or accept what people say to them at face value.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
149. If I could make their loss hurt more I would.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:00 PM
Nov 2012

The crap they put me through and the crap they put survivors of rape through was so bad. I have talked to survivors that were traumatized by Akin's remarks. I was traumatized as well even though I got out of a situation before anything real bad happened, it was still very scary. Any way they did a lot of damage to a lot of people. So, I hope it hurts and pay back is a...

Shilo

(101 posts)
153. Hopefully he will get permanent Romensia and we never have to hear from him again
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:01 PM
Nov 2012

you reap what you sow Mittens

LeftishBrit

(41,205 posts)
154. Not as shellshocked as all the people who lose their jobs due to right-wing policies and don't have
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:01 PM
Nov 2012

millions of dollars to fall back on.

zebe83

(143 posts)
156. To lie to the people is one thing.....
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:04 PM
Nov 2012

To lie to yourself is another. Another poster put it best. I always thought Repoblicans were smart, calculating and cunning. This group was a bunch of morons. Thank God we won.

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
158. Shows you how much of a bubble they live in
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:05 PM
Nov 2012

They probably ONLY watch FAUX News and read Drudge online.

The rest of us knew that he NEVER led in the polls, although it was close one time after the 1st debate.

When you get all your information from liars, you tend to get disappointed. Often.

PatSeg

(47,468 posts)
160. That is stunning
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:09 PM
Nov 2012

Romney really, really does live in a bubble. I know losing really sucks, but damn, how could he have thought that winning was a certainty.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
165. Kind of stings, doesn't it?? I'm sorry but I have absolutely no
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:22 PM
Nov 2012

sympathy whatsoever, the more it hurts them the more my pleasure. I can't forget the racist hate, the lies they spewed, the cruel attitude toward the majority of people in this country etc etc.

Bertha Venation

(21,484 posts)
166. "They all were thrust on that stage without understanding what had just happened."
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:23 PM
Nov 2012

I can understand the shock.

Randomthought

(835 posts)
169. they can afford a psychiatrist
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:25 PM
Nov 2012

to help them through. Unlike the people they would have deprived of even minimal health care.

 

dumbledork

(46 posts)
171. I can't help thinking none of them have the foggiest clue what "shellshocked" actually means...n/t
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:26 PM
Nov 2012

...

CountAllVotes

(20,875 posts)
174. right you are!
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:30 PM
Nov 2012

How could these draft dodging low-life idiots know anything about what it means to be "shell shocked"?

& Welcome to the Democratic Underground!!

I am so very glad that We the People did not allow these vile putrid piles of scum steal the election!!

& recommend.

Deb

(3,742 posts)
177. It's amazing how Republicans always believe their own bullshit
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:34 PM
Nov 2012

After awhile, you can't smell what you're covered in.

malaise

(269,010 posts)
189. Many of us challenged the BS about ReTHUG enthusiasm
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:48 PM
Nov 2012

That backfired in their faces big time.

They misread turnout. They expected it to be between 2004 and 2008 levels, with a plus-2 or plus-3 Democratic electorate, instead of plus-7 as it was in 2008. Their assumptions were wrong on both sides: The president's base turned out and Romney's did not. More African-Americans voted in Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina and Florida than in 2008. And fewer Republicans did: Romney got just over 2 million fewer votes than John McCain.

Deb

(3,742 posts)
199. There is one good lasting result to the GOP feeding false hope-
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:12 PM
Nov 2012

it demoralizes their base and makes them less trusting of the party. You should hear the older men around my area whine...

sendero

(28,552 posts)
178. WHY DID YOU THINK YOU WERE GOING TO WIN?
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:35 PM
Nov 2012

Is it because you listen only to your own echo-chamber and have no real clue about anything? I think so.

The polls were startlingly clear that you were going to lose. Do you have a problem with reality?

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
179. No sympathy.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:35 PM
Nov 2012

Wonder if Mitt thought about how many of those workers he's laid off over the years wouldn't be voting for him? Probably not. I don't think he gave any of them a second thought.

What goes around...

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
184. "There's nothing worse than when you think you're going to win, and you don't,"
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:41 PM
Nov 2012

Yeah.... if you're 12. Most adults are somehow prepared for loses and roadblocks.


But it's telling that they were so sure they would win. Pu-leez! They really are in another universe!

Adios Mitt!


When can we get Ryan completely out of the works? Midterms?

ClusterFreak

(3,112 posts)
187. You know, when you hear something like this, it really makes you think.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:42 PM
Nov 2012

Thank fucking gawd this entitled, plutocratic asshole lost.

CRH

(1,553 posts)
191. Romney shell shocked by loss, lol, ...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:52 PM
Nov 2012

If you equate a campaign to a business, and you have appointed your top lieutenants, and you have no idea you are getting waxed when you have access to the most current information, what does this say of your ability to run a business.

If you can't buy your target with leveraged money, (OPM), dismantle it and sell off the parts, then send the carcass into bankruptcy, then do you manage a company like you managed your campaign. It appears your campaign was bankrupt when you thought it was flourishing. How does this reflect on you as a manager.

Aren't you happy he isn't running the largest business in the world, aka, the US Government.

Nothing more needs to be said.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
194. They actually used their own crowd sizes as a metric for enthusiasm?
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:55 PM
Nov 2012

One of the first things you learn about campaigns is not to fall for that.

The only other thing besides everything that has been said here is that Romney thinks like a corporate owner more than a politician, which makes him especially susceptible to cockeyed optimism. It's what the business world runs on. Plus, people are always afraid to tell the owner the truth. You can't tell me not a single person in that campaign saw 20 Ohio polls with Obama leading and wasn't freaked out by it.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
197. I think his advisers were feeding him the same crap they were feeding the media.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:06 PM
Nov 2012

Its was all smoke and mirrors and Romney believed it.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
200. Did the folks up high like Romney really not know?
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:16 PM
Nov 2012

Honestly, I find that incredible. I mean it is one thing to spin total bullshit, it is quite another level to actually believe your own Bullshit.

These folks are incredible. But I guess if you think carefully about it what would you expect from science deniers like the Repukes? Slowly but surely their continued attempts to invent their own reality will lead to their own demise. I can hardly wait!

REP

(21,691 posts)
201. Boo fucking hoo hoo. Ann is left with only one dancing horse; doesn't get to be Queen of the US
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:22 PM
Nov 2012

hoboken123

(251 posts)
202. 2010 turnout model
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:23 PM
Nov 2012

They honestly believed they had all the momentum and would get an R+2 turnout.

They were legitimately surprised when the traditional D+6 turnout occurred.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
203. Divine Right of Kings is no longer a government policy, you idiots!!!
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:29 PM
Nov 2012

Living in the 16th century, are they???

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
209. "We just felt, 'where's our path?'" said a senior adviser. "There wasn't one."
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:24 PM
Nov 2012

These people are so clueless, living in their Richie Rich bubbles. R$ never had a path, he was like a wandering drunk in the wilderness, having no idea where to go, going this direction for the Tbags and that direction for the Kochs and another direction to be more in the middle. geesh. The R's need to go do some community service in a place where people are hurting and maybe they will get a clue.

Care Acutely

(1,370 posts)
213. Good! Especially the Queen.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:33 PM
Nov 2012

Just really, I'm so glad it hurt. I am.

"You people" just told her to cover it with 40 grit sandpaper and shove it up her ass.

0rganism

(23,955 posts)
214. SALT FOR THE SALT GOD! TEARS FOR THE TEAR POOL!
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:34 PM
Nov 2012

mmm, delicious republican tears. Sympathy? no, not this time. Sweetest schadenfreude i've experienced in quite some time, frankly.

Hutzpa

(11,461 posts)
222. My favorite -- "It was like a sucker punch"
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:25 AM
Nov 2012

that's for all the dog whistles and the gross disrespect shown toward the president during the first debate.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
225. Everything he's done and then everything he pulled, for that crew to be frog marched
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:23 AM
Nov 2012

out to absorb how hard they just caught it is delicious.

For the workers he fucked over, up in your bedclothes and face the end.

For the nasty, shitty, duplicitous campaign you ran, squint into the spotlight and blink.

I've tried and am trying not to be vicious in victory. And all the work remains - paper trail ballots, overturn Citizens United, get it through our thick fucking skulls that the midterms aren't some sort of exhibition game.

But this was one of the worst candidates and mean-spirited campaigns of my lifetime. There was no lie too big for them to shrink from it.

Love to see that Election Night reality was the one thing they couldn't lie their way around.

IL Lib

(190 posts)
231. A couple of days before the election
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:59 AM
Nov 2012

there was footage of Ann on the plane (also at a rally), and she didn't want to answer questions and looked as if she'd been crying. I believe they had been given bad news and knew they were going to lose. I'm sure there was the finality on election day, but regardless of what is being reported, I don't think they were thinking they were going to win. Body language a few days out suggested otherwise coming from the Obama and Romney camps.

What else is there to say when you have been leading donors to believe that your campaign was in a winning position until the very end?

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
233. Exactly. There was so much money funding their campaign
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:22 AM
Nov 2012

it was important to maintain the illusion that Romney-Ryan stood a good chance of winning, otherwise the cash flow would have slowed down.

Don't stop believing. It's the emperor's new clothes, where everyone went around saying how great the emperor's non-existent clothes looked, and even the emperor thought he looked great. Those clothes cost a fortune!

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