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So Alex Murdaugh is testifying right now. Wow. (Original Post) Tomconroy Feb 2023 OP
His name is actually a clue. Betcha he's a Republican. live love laugh Feb 2023 #1
Apparently he gives to both parties but in 2020 he gave money to Biden Tomconroy Feb 2023 #10
Nope, he's a Dem donor. BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #17
bad call there GusBob Feb 2023 #27
Can't "win" 'em all. live love laugh Feb 2023 #29
Can we have some more context? Joe Cool Feb 2023 #2
my exact thoughts: lawyer on trial for murder in S Carolina Tetrachloride Feb 2023 #6
Sorry, he's charged with the double murders of his wife and son........ a kennedy Feb 2023 #7
I know, shocked he would, but, I do think he thinks he's gonna beat these charges...... a kennedy Feb 2023 #3
surely you jest NJCher Feb 2023 #8
I agree. The cops screwed the investigation up badly, so he may skate. BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #18
I think it's sad he had his son testify for him. live love laugh Feb 2023 #28
you know something? NJCher Feb 2023 #30
His son's life is ruined. I'm also grateful for decent parents and community. live love laugh Feb 2023 #37
Context: South Carolina lawyer on trial for murder Tetrachloride Feb 2023 #4
Tellin' a down home yarn now about Paw Paw Submariner Feb 2023 #5
Don't forget Ro-Ro and Mags Kennah Feb 2023 #38
Watched the Murdaugh doc on Netflix last night. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2023 #9
I take issue with your characterization of the case "a fascinating look at high social culture in Martin68 Feb 2023 #12
Point taken. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2023 #14
Yeah, it's pure Southern Gothic at this point. BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #19
Yes, the press is playing up the southern gothic stereotype angle, and the rest of the country is Martin68 Feb 2023 #32
Don't forget how well it would play up New York culture. BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #33
Creepy DET Feb 2023 #11
"This stuff plays well in the South?" What is that supposed to mean? Martin68 Feb 2023 #13
It Means.. DET Feb 2023 #16
I do live in the South, but the idea that a man who murdered his wife and son in cold blood is Martin68 Feb 2023 #31
What "terms"? other than the nicknames, what do you mean? BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #34
Life Is Too Short DET Feb 2023 #43
Wow, really? "Plays well in the south" Huh? BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #20
Why are people ignoring Ro-Ro? Kennah Feb 2023 #39
People are being extremely weird about the way this man talks and where he's from. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2023 #15
Thank you. BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #21
Yep. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2023 #22
There appears to be an attempt to appear aw shucks folksy by calling his dead son Paw Paw Kennah Feb 2023 #41
Yes, there are all sorts of tactics a person can use when defending themselves. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2023 #45
Rich White Dude with Pill Problem CoopersDad Feb 2023 #23
Motive still seems to be missing although I haven't watched the Tomconroy Feb 2023 #24
The motive is that his world was caving in around him. His law partners had just discovered that Martin68 Feb 2023 #36
Got a male compensation problem, too. Publicly poses as law enforcement. lindysalsagal Feb 2023 #25
"I Won't Dispute That" DET Feb 2023 #26
Has there been testimony from the coroner yet? LiberalFighter Feb 2023 #35
Yes. The coroner testified for the defense. Raftergirl Feb 2023 #40
What? Is he friends with Murdaugh? LiberalFighter Feb 2023 #44
I'm sure they knew each other. Raftergirl Feb 2023 #46
Gun Shot Residue evidence appears very strong Kennah Feb 2023 #42

a kennedy

(29,655 posts)
7. Sorry, he's charged with the double murders of his wife and son........
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 12:01 PM
Feb 2023

Has a back story of being debt for embezzling millions from his own law practice, lotsa back story…….

Read here: https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/13/us/murdaugh-deaths-timeline/index.html

a kennedy

(29,655 posts)
3. I know, shocked he would, but, I do think he thinks he's gonna beat these charges......
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 11:56 AM
Feb 2023

he’s an attorney and I think he really thinks he’s gonna beat this. What’s with his licking his lips all the time???

NJCher

(35,662 posts)
8. surely you jest
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 12:03 PM
Feb 2023

Last edited Thu Feb 23, 2023, 05:53 PM - Edit history (1)

he's an opioid crazed thief who stole his own law firm blind and was dismissed.

Now true that these circumstances may not enter this particular courtroom, but at some point he has to answer for this.

This is guy is pathetic as trump. He is a sniveling, miserable excuse for a human being whose family corrupted justice for decades.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
18. I agree. The cops screwed the investigation up badly, so he may skate.
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 03:00 PM
Feb 2023

But they'll get him for the financial crap.

NJCher

(35,662 posts)
30. you know something?
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 08:30 PM
Feb 2023

Had it not been for comparing notes on these despicable creeps over the period of a few decades here at DU, I don't think I'd know how low human beings can stoop. I'd have a good idea, but not to the extent that I see it now.

We see this type of unconscionable behavior time after time after time.

Of course the internet and TV brings the picture together, too.

There isn't a day that goes by that I don't feel gratitude for the good parents I had. Imagine living the rest of your life with this kind of father. I really don't think a normal life is in the picture for this individual.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,467 posts)
9. Watched the Murdaugh doc on Netflix last night.
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 12:08 PM
Feb 2023

Last edited Thu Feb 23, 2023, 02:33 PM - Edit history (1)

This guy and his family were responsible/implicated in 5 deaths. Really a fascinating look at a murderous psychopath in the U.S.

Martin68

(22,794 posts)
12. I take issue with your characterization of the case "a fascinating look at high social culture in
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 02:24 PM
Feb 2023

the South." I'd suggest "a fascinating look at a murderous psychopath in the U.S." I don't see how this case is a reflection of high social culture in the South unless you have a bone to pick with Southerners in general.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
19. Yeah, it's pure Southern Gothic at this point.
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 03:02 PM
Feb 2023

But you're right, the US has plenty of creepy killers to go around.

Martin68

(22,794 posts)
32. Yes, the press is playing up the southern gothic stereotype angle, and the rest of the country is
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 10:47 PM
Feb 2023

eating it up. It's a disgusting example of using stereotypes to implicate an entire culture. It seems so easy to parody "The South" and "southern culture" in ways that would be found offensive if applied to New York, New England or California. This is a story about a broke investor with a drug habit who went off the rails and killed his wife and son because they found out about it. It could have taken place in Maine, Texas, Kansas, Oregon, Ontario, or any number of places not implicated with "southern culture."

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
33. Don't forget how well it would play up New York culture.
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 01:00 PM
Feb 2023

Tfg comes to mind, but oh, so many more.

You nailed it.

DET

(1,309 posts)
11. Creepy
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 01:17 PM
Feb 2023

Buster and Bubba and Paw Paw and the chicken…oh, the chicken. Alex is just a rich, supremely powerful good ‘ol boy havin’ fun down by the pond. I guess that stuff plays well in the South but it just stuck me as skeevy. Still waiting for a Perry Mason moment. This is not exactly a tough examination.

Martin68

(22,794 posts)
13. "This stuff plays well in the South?" What is that supposed to mean?
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 02:26 PM
Feb 2023

Looks like it's playing well over the entire country in terms of a morbid fascination with the murder of family members.

DET

(1,309 posts)
16. It Means..
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 02:59 PM
Feb 2023

…that Murdaugh is playing to the jury, which consists of local people, most if not all of whom are presumably Southerners for whom these sorts of terms may be the norm. In fact, according to eyewitnesses, the jury is totally engaged in Murdaugh’s testimony and is nodding in agreement during parts of it. Transport that same testimony to New England and you’d get a different reaction. I can understand being offended if you live in the South, but Murdaugh is shamelessly playing to Southern stereotypes. And it appears to be working.

Martin68

(22,794 posts)
31. I do live in the South, but the idea that a man who murdered his wife and son in cold blood is
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 10:41 PM
Feb 2023

"playing to Southern stereotypes" is a bigoted point of view. Can you clarify which "southern stereotypes" Murdaugh is successfully playing to in regard to the jury? Would you blithely accept the statement that someone was "shamelessly playing to New England stereotypes" to sway a New England jury? I lived in New England, and I would find either statement offensive.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
34. What "terms"? other than the nicknames, what do you mean?
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 01:01 PM
Feb 2023

I'll wait.

He seems to be using regular old American English that I can tell.

DET

(1,309 posts)
43. Life Is Too Short
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 03:36 PM
Feb 2023

Sorry, but I’m not engaging further at this point. It would not be a productive discussion.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
20. Wow, really? "Plays well in the south" Huh?
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 03:09 PM
Feb 2023


There seems to be much you don't know about this case.
 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
21. Thank you.
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 03:11 PM
Feb 2023

But the hatred of the south frequently is seen here. You know that.

I'd love to see some of these folks get into a discussion with one of our good southern Dems. Be kind of fun to watch.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,329 posts)
22. Yep.
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 03:16 PM
Feb 2023
I'd love to see some of these folks get into a discussion with one of our good southern Dems.
Right right, the ones living in states that some here can't wait to cut loose.

CoopersDad

(2,193 posts)
23. Rich White Dude with Pill Problem
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 05:46 PM
Feb 2023

He seems to be trying to be found not guilty of murder by reason of his sad Opiate problem.

I hope they nail him, but this trial is running so long as to bore the jurors into a "just get it over" frame of mind.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
24. Motive still seems to be missing although I haven't watched the
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 05:51 PM
Feb 2023

Whole trial. I think a short effective cross would be better than going through all the Financials. They know he's a thief. The state needs to prove he's a murderer

Martin68

(22,794 posts)
36. The motive is that his world was caving in around him. His law partners had just discovered that
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 01:23 PM
Feb 2023

he was stealing millions from them and his clients, and his son had just discovered his cache of opioids. He had been in rehab multiple times, and was clearly dependent on opioids to deal with the fact that he was facing total ruin financially and professionally. He went off the rails when his wife and son found out about his relapse. Perhaps it was a last ditch effort to get sympathy and force everybody to give him some slack for his addiction and crimes. Clearly, he lost it entirely.

lindysalsagal

(20,680 posts)
25. Got a male compensation problem, too. Publicly poses as law enforcement.
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 05:54 PM
Feb 2023

Then admits under oath he's not.

LiberalFighter

(50,912 posts)
35. Has there been testimony from the coroner yet?
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 01:15 PM
Feb 2023

I think the prosecutor is trying to build a timeline to show he was there when they were shot. I'm not sure if anything came out yet as to whether he had any blood on him after he checked the bodies. If he cleaned himself up and changed clothes before calling the police.

Raftergirl

(1,285 posts)
40. Yes. The coroner testified for the defense.
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 02:46 PM
Feb 2023

He was their first witness. He was elected to the position and is not a doctor and has no formal medical training at all. He determined time of death by feeling the victims armpits.

He didn’t do anything else.

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