Thu Feb 23, 2023, 11:49 AM

Tomconroy (7,104 posts)

So Alex Murdaugh is testifying right now. Wow.

I guess he figured he has nothing to lose.

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So Alex Murdaugh is testifying right now. Wow. (Original post)	Tomconroy	Feb 2023	OP
His name is actually a clue. Betcha he's a Republican.	live love laugh	Feb 2023	#1
Apparently he gives to both parties but in 2020 he gave money to Biden	Tomconroy	Feb 2023	#10
Nope, he's a Dem donor.	BlackSkimmer	Feb 2023	#17
bad call there	GusBob	Feb 2023	#27
Can't "win" 'em all.	live love laugh	Feb 2023	#29
Can we have some more context?	Joe Cool	Feb 2023	#2
my exact thoughts: lawyer on trial for murder in S Carolina	Tetrachloride	Feb 2023	#6
Sorry, he's charged with the double murders of his wife and son........	a kennedy	Feb 2023	#7
I know, shocked he would, but, I do think he thinks he's gonna beat these charges......	a kennedy	Feb 2023	#3
surely you jest	NJCher	Feb 2023	#8
I agree. The cops screwed the investigation up badly, so he may skate.	BlackSkimmer	Feb 2023	#18
I think it's sad he had his son testify for him.	live love laugh	Feb 2023	#28
you know something?	NJCher	Feb 2023	#30
His son's life is ruined. I'm also grateful for decent parents and community.	live love laugh	Feb 2023	#37
Context: South Carolina lawyer on trial for murder	Tetrachloride	Feb 2023	#4
Tellin' a down home yarn now about Paw Paw	Submariner	Feb 2023	#5
Don't forget Ro-Ro and Mags	Kennah	Feb 2023	#38
Watched the Murdaugh doc on Netflix last night.	OAITW r.2.0	Feb 2023	#9
I take issue with your characterization of the case "a fascinating look at high social culture in	Martin68	Feb 2023	#12
Point taken.	OAITW r.2.0	Feb 2023	#14
Yeah, it's pure Southern Gothic at this point.	BlackSkimmer	Feb 2023	#19
Yes, the press is playing up the southern gothic stereotype angle, and the rest of the country is	Martin68	Feb 2023	#32
Don't forget how well it would play up New York culture.	BlackSkimmer	Feb 2023	#33
Creepy	DET	Feb 2023	#11
"This stuff plays well in the South?" What is that supposed to mean?	Martin68	Feb 2023	#13
It Means..	DET	Feb 2023	#16
I do live in the South, but the idea that a man who murdered his wife and son in cold blood is	Martin68	Feb 2023	#31
What "terms"? other than the nicknames, what do you mean?	BlackSkimmer	Feb 2023	#34
Life Is Too Short	DET	Feb 2023	#43
Wow, really? "Plays well in the south" Huh?	BlackSkimmer	Feb 2023	#20
Why are people ignoring Ro-Ro?	Kennah	Feb 2023	#39
People are being extremely weird about the way this man talks and where he's from.	WhiskeyGrinder	Feb 2023	#15
Thank you.	BlackSkimmer	Feb 2023	#21
Yep.	WhiskeyGrinder	Feb 2023	#22
There appears to be an attempt to appear aw shucks folksy by calling his dead son Paw Paw	Kennah	Feb 2023	#41
Yes, there are all sorts of tactics a person can use when defending themselves.	WhiskeyGrinder	Feb 2023	#45
Rich White Dude with Pill Problem	CoopersDad	Feb 2023	#23
Motive still seems to be missing although I haven't watched the	Tomconroy	Feb 2023	#24
The motive is that his world was caving in around him. His law partners had just discovered that	Martin68	Feb 2023	#36
Got a male compensation problem, too. Publicly poses as law enforcement.	lindysalsagal	Feb 2023	#25
"I Won't Dispute That"	DET	Feb 2023	#26
Has there been testimony from the coroner yet?	LiberalFighter	Feb 2023	#35
Yes. The coroner testified for the defense.	Raftergirl	Feb 2023	#40
What? Is he friends with Murdaugh?	LiberalFighter	Feb 2023	#44
I'm sure they knew each other.	Raftergirl	Feb 2023	#46
Gun Shot Residue evidence appears very strong	Kennah	Feb 2023	#42

Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 11:55 AM

live love laugh (12,387 posts)

1. His name is actually a clue. Betcha he's a Republican.

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Response to live love laugh (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 12:19 PM

Tomconroy (7,104 posts)

10. Apparently he gives to both parties but in 2020 he gave money to Biden

But not trump.
https://www.thetimes.com.ng/2023/01/alex-murdaugh-political-affiliation/

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Response to live love laugh (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 02:59 PM

BlackSkimmer (51,308 posts)

17. Nope, he's a Dem donor.

Has been a SC Dem forever.

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Response to live love laugh (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 06:23 PM

GusBob (7,268 posts)

27. bad call there

his family is big into Dem party in his state

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Response to GusBob (Reply #27)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 07:47 PM

live love laugh (12,387 posts)

29. Can't "win" 'em all.

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 11:56 AM

Joe Cool (559 posts)

2. Can we have some more context?

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Response to Joe Cool (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 11:59 AM

Tetrachloride (7,492 posts)

6. my exact thoughts: lawyer on trial for murder in S Carolina

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Response to Joe Cool (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 12:01 PM

a kennedy (28,426 posts)

7. Sorry, he's charged with the double murders of his wife and son........

Has a back story of being debt for embezzling millions from his own law practice, lotsa back story…….

Read here: https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/13/us/murdaugh-deaths-timeline/index.html

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 11:56 AM

a kennedy (28,426 posts)

3. I know, shocked he would, but, I do think he thinks he's gonna beat these charges......

he’s an attorney and I think he really thinks he’s gonna beat this. What’s with his licking his lips all the time???

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Response to a kennedy (Reply #3)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 12:03 PM

NJCher (34,005 posts)

8. surely you jest

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he's an opioid crazed thief who stole his own law firm blind and was dismissed.

Now true that these circumstances may not enter this particular courtroom, but at some point he has to answer for this.

This is guy is pathetic as trump. He is a sniveling, miserable excuse for a human being whose family corrupted justice for decades.

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Response to NJCher (Reply #8)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 03:00 PM

BlackSkimmer (51,308 posts)

18. I agree. The cops screwed the investigation up badly, so he may skate.

But they'll get him for the financial crap.

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Response to NJCher (Reply #8)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 07:46 PM

live love laugh (12,387 posts)

28. I think it's sad he had his son testify for him.

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Response to live love laugh (Reply #28)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 08:30 PM

NJCher (34,005 posts)

30. you know something?

Had it not been for comparing notes on these despicable creeps over the period of a few decades here at DU, I don't think I'd know how low human beings can stoop. I'd have a good idea, but not to the extent that I see it now.

We see this type of unconscionable behavior time after time after time.

Of course the internet and TV brings the picture together, too.

There isn't a day that goes by that I don't feel gratitude for the good parents I had. Imagine living the rest of your life with this kind of father. I really don't think a normal life is in the picture for this individual.

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Response to NJCher (Reply #30)

Fri Feb 24, 2023, 02:33 PM

live love laugh (12,387 posts)

37. His son's life is ruined. I'm also grateful for decent parents and community.

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 11:58 AM

Tetrachloride (7,492 posts)

4. Context: South Carolina lawyer on trial for murder

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Alex_Murdaugh

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 11:58 AM

Submariner (12,292 posts)

5. Tellin' a down home yarn now about Paw Paw

and Buster's truck....yada...yada.....BS lying crap

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Response to Submariner (Reply #5)

Fri Feb 24, 2023, 02:44 PM

Kennah (11,931 posts)

38. Don't forget Ro-Ro and Mags

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 12:08 PM

OAITW r.2.0 (20,423 posts)

9. Watched the Murdaugh doc on Netflix last night.

Last edited Thu Feb 23, 2023, 02:33 PM - Edit history (1)

This guy and his family were responsible/implicated in 5 deaths. Really a fascinating look at a murderous psychopath in the U.S.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #9)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 02:24 PM

Martin68 (21,725 posts)

12. I take issue with your characterization of the case "a fascinating look at high social culture in

the South." I'd suggest "a fascinating look at a murderous psychopath in the U.S." I don't see how this case is a reflection of high social culture in the South unless you have a bone to pick with Southerners in general.

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Response to Martin68 (Reply #12)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 02:34 PM

OAITW r.2.0 (20,423 posts)

14. Point taken.

Fixed...

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Response to Martin68 (Reply #12)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 03:02 PM

BlackSkimmer (51,308 posts)

19. Yeah, it's pure Southern Gothic at this point.

But you're right, the US has plenty of creepy killers to go around.

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #19)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 10:47 PM

Martin68 (21,725 posts)

32. Yes, the press is playing up the southern gothic stereotype angle, and the rest of the country is

eating it up. It's a disgusting example of using stereotypes to implicate an entire culture. It seems so easy to parody "The South" and "southern culture" in ways that would be found offensive if applied to New York, New England or California. This is a story about a broke investor with a drug habit who went off the rails and killed his wife and son because they found out about it. It could have taken place in Maine, Texas, Kansas, Oregon, Ontario, or any number of places not implicated with "southern culture."

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Response to Martin68 (Reply #32)

Fri Feb 24, 2023, 01:00 PM

BlackSkimmer (51,308 posts)

33. Don't forget how well it would play up New York culture.

Tfg comes to mind, but oh, so many more.

You nailed it.

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 01:17 PM

DET (1,008 posts)

11. Creepy

Buster and Bubba and Paw Paw and the chicken…oh, the chicken. Alex is just a rich, supremely powerful good ‘ol boy havin’ fun down by the pond. I guess that stuff plays well in the South but it just stuck me as skeevy. Still waiting for a Perry Mason moment. This is not exactly a tough examination.

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Response to DET (Reply #11)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 02:26 PM

Martin68 (21,725 posts)

13. "This stuff plays well in the South?" What is that supposed to mean?

Looks like it's playing well over the entire country in terms of a morbid fascination with the murder of family members.

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Response to Martin68 (Reply #13)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 02:59 PM

DET (1,008 posts)

16. It Means..

…that Murdaugh is playing to the jury, which consists of local people, most if not all of whom are presumably Southerners for whom these sorts of terms may be the norm. In fact, according to eyewitnesses, the jury is totally engaged in Murdaugh’s testimony and is nodding in agreement during parts of it. Transport that same testimony to New England and you’d get a different reaction. I can understand being offended if you live in the South, but Murdaugh is shamelessly playing to Southern stereotypes. And it appears to be working.

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Response to DET (Reply #16)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 10:41 PM

Martin68 (21,725 posts)

31. I do live in the South, but the idea that a man who murdered his wife and son in cold blood is

"playing to Southern stereotypes" is a bigoted point of view. Can you clarify which "southern stereotypes" Murdaugh is successfully playing to in regard to the jury? Would you blithely accept the statement that someone was "shamelessly playing to New England stereotypes" to sway a New England jury? I lived in New England, and I would find either statement offensive.

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Response to DET (Reply #16)

Fri Feb 24, 2023, 01:01 PM

BlackSkimmer (51,308 posts)

34. What "terms"? other than the nicknames, what do you mean?

I'll wait.

He seems to be using regular old American English that I can tell.

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #34)

Fri Feb 24, 2023, 03:36 PM

DET (1,008 posts)

43. Life Is Too Short

Sorry, but I’m not engaging further at this point. It would not be a productive discussion.

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Response to DET (Reply #11)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 03:09 PM

BlackSkimmer (51,308 posts)

20. Wow, really? "Plays well in the south" Huh?

There seems to be much you don't know about this case.

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Response to DET (Reply #11)

Fri Feb 24, 2023, 02:45 PM

Kennah (11,931 posts)

39. Why are people ignoring Ro-Ro?

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 02:35 PM

WhiskeyGrinder (20,863 posts)

15. People are being extremely weird about the way this man talks and where he's from.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #15)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 03:11 PM

BlackSkimmer (51,308 posts)

21. Thank you.

But the hatred of the south frequently is seen here. You know that.

I'd love to see some of these folks get into a discussion with one of our good southern Dems. Be kind of fun to watch.

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #21)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 03:16 PM

WhiskeyGrinder (20,863 posts)

22. Yep.

I'd love to see some of these folks get into a discussion with one of our good southern Dems.

Right right, the ones living in states that some here can't wait to cut loose.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #22)

Fri Feb 24, 2023, 02:46 PM

Kennah (11,931 posts)

41. There appears to be an attempt to appear aw shucks folksy by calling his dead son Paw Paw

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Response to Kennah (Reply #41)

Fri Feb 24, 2023, 04:43 PM

WhiskeyGrinder (20,863 posts)

45. Yes, there are all sorts of tactics a person can use when defending themselves.

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 05:46 PM

CoopersDad (2,113 posts)

23. Rich White Dude with Pill Problem

He seems to be trying to be found not guilty of murder by reason of his sad Opiate problem.

I hope they nail him, but this trial is running so long as to bore the jurors into a "just get it over" frame of mind.

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Response to CoopersDad (Reply #23)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 05:51 PM

Tomconroy (7,104 posts)

24. Motive still seems to be missing although I haven't watched the

Whole trial. I think a short effective cross would be better than going through all the Financials. They know he's a thief. The state needs to prove he's a murderer

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Response to Tomconroy (Reply #24)

Fri Feb 24, 2023, 01:23 PM

Martin68 (21,725 posts)

36. The motive is that his world was caving in around him. His law partners had just discovered that

he was stealing millions from them and his clients, and his son had just discovered his cache of opioids. He had been in rehab multiple times, and was clearly dependent on opioids to deal with the fact that he was facing total ruin financially and professionally. He went off the rails when his wife and son found out about his relapse. Perhaps it was a last ditch effort to get sympathy and force everybody to give him some slack for his addiction and crimes. Clearly, he lost it entirely.

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Response to CoopersDad (Reply #23)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 05:54 PM

lindysalsagal (19,671 posts)

25. Got a male compensation problem, too. Publicly poses as law enforcement.

Then admits under oath he's not.

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Thu Feb 23, 2023, 06:22 PM

DET (1,008 posts)

26. "I Won't Dispute That"

Murdaugh sure has a bad memory.

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Fri Feb 24, 2023, 01:15 PM

LiberalFighter (47,668 posts)

35. Has there been testimony from the coroner yet?

I think the prosecutor is trying to build a timeline to show he was there when they were shot. I'm not sure if anything came out yet as to whether he had any blood on him after he checked the bodies. If he cleaned himself up and changed clothes before calling the police.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #35)

Fri Feb 24, 2023, 02:46 PM

Raftergirl (1,166 posts)

40. Yes. The coroner testified for the defense.

He was their first witness. He was elected to the position and is not a doctor and has no formal medical training at all. He determined time of death by feeling the victims armpits.

He didn’t do anything else.

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Response to Raftergirl (Reply #40)

Fri Feb 24, 2023, 04:04 PM

LiberalFighter (47,668 posts)

44. What? Is he friends with Murdaugh?

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #44)

Fri Feb 24, 2023, 04:59 PM

Raftergirl (1,166 posts)

46. I'm sure they knew each other.

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Fri Feb 24, 2023, 02:52 PM

Kennah (11,931 posts)

42. Gun Shot Residue evidence appears very strong

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