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Kroger to Slash Hourly Workers to Avoid Obamacare Penalties (Original Post) dodger501 Nov 2012 OP
Kroger only hires Full Time Managers Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #1
That's not true. I used to work with an adjunct professor who kept a full-time job at Kroger for Iris Nov 2012 #17
Maybe that is just in our area Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #19
Yeah - I noticed down thread, there were stories similar to mine. It must be different in different Iris Nov 2012 #20
Excellent. Stories like this will help get Single Payer back into discussion. . . Journeyman Nov 2012 #2
The Kroger in my area is unionized liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #3
They are unionized pretty much everywhere. GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #8
Not in Omaha! Omaha Steve Nov 2012 #12
It's bullshit, anyone that is part-time (28 hours or less) doesn't get any medical benefits anyway. Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #4
It's in the article, current employees that are categorized as part-time Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #9
Doesn't matter, those people are STILL classified as 'part-time' employees. Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #15
Show me the contract. Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #21
UFCW Retail Clerks have always been rated as part-time at anything scheduled at/under 28 hours. Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #22
Nothing would surprise me Sherman A1 Nov 2012 #5
Likely were going EC Nov 2012 #6
Boycott them Generic Other Nov 2012 #7
Kroger starts plan to hire more Vets. GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #10
Thanks for posting. I was about to point out the link in the OP had no evidence. Iris Nov 2012 #18
Used to work for Kroger. CuriousAboutPolls Nov 2012 #11
BOGUS!TeaBagger bullshit. GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #13
The Kroger in my neighborhood never has enough cashiers. RebelOne Nov 2012 #14
Yeah, and Jeep is moving jobs to China. renie408 Nov 2012 #16

Iris

(15,657 posts)
17. That's not true. I used to work with an adjunct professor who kept a full-time job at Kroger for
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:46 PM
Nov 2012

benefits. She wasn't a manager.

Iris

(15,657 posts)
20. Yeah - I noticed down thread, there were stories similar to mine. It must be different in different
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:33 PM
Nov 2012

areas. Odd, though, b/c I'm in GA - union busting central. I guess they throw the people a bone every now and then to keep them from revolting.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
3. The Kroger in my area is unionized
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:15 PM
Nov 2012

They earn a pretty decent hourly wage. They may have something to say about cutting their hours. I shop at Kroger and would completely support a strike.

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
8. They are unionized pretty much everywhere.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:58 PM
Nov 2012

Even my local store is, and n one of those Right-to-Work-for-Less states. My sister works for them. I have not heard her say anything about this. And, believe me, if it's true I'd have heard about it by now. I think this is a bunch of BS.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
4. It's bullshit, anyone that is part-time (28 hours or less) doesn't get any medical benefits anyway.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:32 PM
Nov 2012

They don't pay anything for these people to begin with, so what's going to change?

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
9. It's in the article, current employees that are categorized as part-time
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:01 PM
Nov 2012

but can work more hours if they want, will be restricted to 28 hours a week. Period. New hires will be 28 hours a week employees.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
15. Doesn't matter, those people are STILL classified as 'part-time' employees.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:44 PM
Nov 2012

Yes, they DO work more than 28 hrs. a week sometimes, and NO, they still did not get full-time benefits.

Kroger would make sure that hours worked in any given quarter never cross the threshhold of automatically kicking in full-time status.

The part-tme employees have no rights under the contract to work more hours than their initial hire classification, and as long as the employer schedules the employee at least the minimum hours available, the employee has no grievance.

This is nothing new in the retail food industry.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
22. UFCW Retail Clerks have always been rated as part-time at anything scheduled at/under 28 hours.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:46 PM
Nov 2012

14 Hours is the actual minimum number of hours that a part-timer can be scheduled, there really is no maximum, but if a part-timer averages more than 28 hours in any given quarter of employment, full-time health and welfare contributions by the employer to the union kick in.

The employers rigorously watch those scheduled hours to make certain they stay below that threshold so they do not have to make those contributions.

You won't find that in this overview of the contract, the actual document is quite a bit larger than than this summation.

I don't have a current contract for every Local scanned into my computer to show you, but if you have a telephone I suggest you call any UFCW Local office that covers Kroger within their jurisdistion and they can give you that information first-hand.

Here is a copy of the last contract I for my Local, previous to the current one, whose basic language hasn't changed.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dol.gov%2Folms%2Fregs%2Fcompliance%2Fcba%2Fprivate%2Fcbrp_2323_pri.PDF&ei=6TydUL_0EqrD0AHsyoDoDA&usg=AFQjCNErNVXwhvRGpQjOzz1dt3JjP4H82A&sig2=bs9nNEY0B5QXvzyWoreiPw

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
5. Nothing would surprise me
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:36 PM
Nov 2012

they can slash the hours of the workforce or threaten to do so and they can hire some to fill the gap in hours thus created, however that works only on the short term and then usually partially. The shelves still need to be filled, the registers staffed and the many other jobs done. When people cannot find what they want on the shelf and that situation happens on a continuous basis, they tend to find somewhere else to shop.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
7. Boycott them
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:51 PM
Nov 2012

Along with any boss who fires people as retribution for the Obama victory. Gees. We can play hardball too ya scabborous bastids.

Iris

(15,657 posts)
18. Thanks for posting. I was about to point out the link in the OP had no evidence.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:47 PM
Nov 2012

It was like a stupid email forward. It'll probably be debunked by Snopes by this time next week.

11. Used to work for Kroger.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:08 PM
Nov 2012

Wouldn't surprise me. Most of my coworkers were Republicans. They would run around complaining that the Union was to blame for their wages not going high enough. One coworker(who was later fired, though not for this instance)actually physically assaulted the Union Rep when he came to talk during contract negotiations. I tried to explain that we needed to support and work with the union....but my coworkers believed that it was Kroger trying to help them and the union was holding them back! Really! To be fair, this is a very far right area(Southern Illinois)so I am sure their political ideology played a part-but I was shocked.

That being said, the RWNJ are making up a lot of garbage right now...and this is probably just more of that.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
14. The Kroger in my neighborhood never has enough cashiers.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:19 PM
Nov 2012

In fact, the managers fill in as cashiers most of the time. I once remarked to one of the cashiers that there are so many people out of work, why did Kroger not hire some more cashiers. She said that the store won't.

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