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brooklynite

(94,789 posts)
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 08:33 PM Feb 2023

What Happens When a Senator Is Incapacitated?

New York Law Journal

The hospitalization of Sen. John Fetterman for depression raises a host of questions. Of course our first reaction is to convey good wishes for a speedy recovery and acknowledge that mental health issues are as real as physical problems. Indeed, to appreciate the often-concealed suffering associated with such disease, one need only read the heart-stopping book, “Invisible Storm: A Soldier’s Memoir of Politics” by Jason Kander, the former Missouri Secretary of State and U.S. Senate candidate who dropped out of a sure-win Kansas City mayoral race when he finally recognized that his depression and PTSD had made his life unbearable. Fortunately we are a far cry from Sen. Tom Eagleton’s experience of being removed as George McGovern’s vice presidential running mate in 1972 when it was discovered that he had gotten electroshock treatment for depression. (By the way, after several years of therapy, Kander seems to be doing pretty well.)

Beyond any sympathy or empathy one might feel for the Pennsylvania senator is his hospitalization’s political impact. Aside from the fact that his constituents’ needs are being temporarily unmet by him (though I am sure his staff is working 24/7), there is the issue of whether his absence imperils the majority’s effectiveness in the Senate. After all, neither Fetterman nor his physicians can predict how long he will be away from Washington. The good news is that the Democrats have a two-vote edge, so his course of treatment does not deprive them of a majority. But life being as unpredictable as it is, the majority party is only one heartbeat away from an evenly split Senate. Although Vice President Kamala Harris could then cast a tie-breaking vote, that would depend on Majority Leader Chuck Schumer’s being able to count on his full caucus (remember Sens. Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema?).

Unfortunately, Fetterman’s situation is neither new nor unique: Sen. Tim Johnson from South Dakota was out for eight months after suffering a brain hemorrhage in 2006; Sen. Ben Ray Lujan from New Mexico had a stroke in 2022 and it took him a few months to recover; and former Vermont Sen. Patrick Leahy checked into the hospital last year when the Senate was 50-50. These are just a few of the recent examples. And, in that the Senate does not allow proxy voting (unlike the House during the pandemic), all members need to show up. John McCain, battling brain cancer at the time, had to appear personally in the Senate chamber to save Obamacare.

It is surprising that there is no current remedy. In an effort to jumpstart a discussion, however, I offer the following suggestion. A state should enact a statute that allows an ill senator to resign and have the governor appoint a temporary replacement. (Forty-six states already permit a governor to appoint an interim senator when there is a vacancy.) And once the senator recovers, the place-holder would resign and the governor would appoint the original senator to the seat. To make this work politically, the law would have to require the temporary senator to be of the same party as the ill senator. (Six states already compel governors to fill a Senate vacancy with someone of the same party.) Obviously all parties would have to act in good faith, and there would need to be structural safeguards to facilitate the process. In this regard I take my cue from the 25th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution as it relates to an incapacitated president.
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What Happens When a Senator Is Incapacitated? (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2023 OP
Chuck Grassley still votes Generic Brad Feb 2023 #1
Strom Thurmond Freethinker65 Feb 2023 #2
Neither Grassley nor Thurmond were incapacitated.... brooklynite Feb 2023 #3
Depends on how you define incapicitated mercuryblues Feb 2023 #4
Mark Kirk Freethinker65 Mar 2023 #8
Charles Sumner convalesced for about 3 years before returning to the Senate Sneederbunk Feb 2023 #5
"Obviously all parties would have to act in good faith..." there's the rub. nt babylonsister Feb 2023 #6
Sorry, I don't buy the logic behind this statement: blue neen Feb 2023 #7

brooklynite

(94,789 posts)
3. Neither Grassley nor Thurmond were incapacitated....
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 08:43 PM
Feb 2023

with respect to their ability to show up and vote.

mercuryblues

(14,547 posts)
4. Depends on how you define incapicitated
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 09:01 PM
Feb 2023

If your aid has to lift your hand and hold your finger to press the button to vote, then yes, you are incapacitaed,

Sneederbunk

(14,312 posts)
5. Charles Sumner convalesced for about 3 years before returning to the Senate
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 10:20 PM
Feb 2023

after being beaten by a cretin from South Carolina.

blue neen

(12,334 posts)
7. Sorry, I don't buy the logic behind this statement:
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 11:50 PM
Feb 2023

"But life being as unpredictable as it is, the majority party is only one heartbeat away from an evenly split Senate."

The minority party also experiences "unpredictable life". They too are only heartbeats away from losing some of their members.

John Fetterman is not incapacitated. He is hospitalized. We here in Pennsylvania are willing to give him some time to heal. I'm not aware of him missing any earth-shattering votes. Feel free to correct me.

If Mr. Goldfeder wants to work on contingency plans for Senators, that's wonderful...but he sure as heck needs to find a better way to frame it. The way this article is titled is offensive to anyone who has battled clinical depression. They work, they raise families, they live their lives.

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