'Make it a spectacle': Proud Boys leader Tarrio key to Jan. 6, U.S. says:

[tblue37]

‘Make it a spectacle’: Proud Boys leader Tarrio key to Jan. 6, U.S. says:
Henry ‘Enrique’ Tarrio aligned plans with Trump ‘stop the steal’ campaign organizers, knowing by Jan. 6 that followers might explode into violence, U.S. says

One day after news networks declared President Donald Trump lost the 2020 election, his campaign had a request for the Proud Boys: Members of the extremist group should attend rallies pushing Trump’s false claim that the election was stolen — but not in their recognizable black-and-yellow gear.

“The campaign asked us to not wear colors to these events,” Proud Boys leader Henry “Enrique” Tarrio told one of his closest deputies in an encrypted Nov. 8, 2020, chat, according to court evidence.

Eight weeks later and days before Jan. 6, 2021, the Proud Boys chairman confided further to multiple girlfriends about members’ preparations for violence and the possibility of storming the Capitol.

“Whatever happens … make it a spectacle,” the 39-year-old Miami-born Cuban American said in a final text to another lieutenant and co-defendant as police arrested Tarrio on his arrival in D.C. on Jan. 4, government exhibits and testimony show.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/03/01/proud-boys-trial-enrique-tarrio-jrDPa

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https://wapo.st/3y3rDPa

This is a very long article, but worth reading.

[bigtree]

1. so good thing DOJ's focusing right now on the 'foot soldiers'

...having already obtained convctions of Oath Keepers on charges ranging from sedition to interference with the vote, they have the Proud Boys in court as we speak.

All of this may be too confusing (or too challenging to preconceptions and posturing) for the folks who've been whinging for months that Garland and Smith are only going after small fry.

[dem4decades]

3. It's been over two years, criticism is warranted. Smith is collecting data today that should have

been collected months if not years ago.

[bigtree]

6. no, criticism isn't warranted because of time passed. Not in the least.

...indictments weren't handed down for the “Watergate Seven,” including John Mitchell, H.R. Haldeman and John Ehrlichman, until March 1, 1974, almost two years after the burglars were charged.

The equivalent measure of those burglars, or 'foot soldiers,' would be the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers in court right now.

[gab13by13]

4. No one ever said that Smith was only going after small fry.

No one ever said that Garland was only going after small fry either, but Garland himself said he was using the pyramid strategy.

Once Garland investigated the big fry he encountered executive privilege, attorney client privilege, speech and debate clause which tied things up in the courts. Maybe it would have been a better idea to investigate all of the criminals on day 1?

[bigtree]

7. that's a misinformed jumble of a view of the investigation

...what I wrote is correct.

You don't waste time on people who you know will lie. You work to undermine them by bringing in underlings and associates to tell the stories first, then you present that to the principals, eventually bringing them before the grand jurors to gauge the veracity based on what the jurors have already learned.

And we have ZERO way of knowing what Garland was looking at, or who he interviewed unless the subjects talk. It's more likely that investigators went as far as they could with statements and responses to their private inquiries to Trump and associates, and are now prepared to bring them before jurors for them to hear their explanations and defenses, or their assertions of privilege, and weigh those against the evidence they've gathered.

That's how prosecutions work, not a jumble of perps brought in willy-nilly.

[msfiddlestix]

5. Yelling from the rooftops is not the same as whining

You can say I'm howling. You would be closer to accuracy, I've been yelling from the rooftops. But whine ?

To me, that would be inaccurate. .

Tell you what i don't know but just a little curious about is: to those of us who have been yelling from the rooftops, will we ever ever hear or read an acknowledgement that our perceptions of what we are not seeing is spot on.

I seriously doubt it, certainly not holding my breath.

What I do expect is radio silence when it can no longer be denied probably long after the next elections.

The Slobfather will never be in an orange jumpsuit, and neither will Ghouliani and the rest of his thugs.

Cuz "no evidence could be found linking to any crimes" That's essentially what Garland will likely will say at some point, after touting all the arrests and prosecutions of the j6 terrorists foot soldiers, will be detailed while nary a whisper will be uttered to explain why the ring leaders were not.

But when that time comes we shouldn't be outraged about that, cuz the law is the law and after all, a whole lot of their foot soldiers have been prosecuted.

Right?













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[bigtree]

9. I say that cynicism allows you to disregard what's actually happening right now

...right in front of us, and everything that's come before in this investigation.

It's not informing, just influencing with angst, innuendo, and wrongheaded analysis based on nothing but this ultimate cynicism.

All that's not something that can be actually evidenced by anything.

[msfiddlestix]

10. When I posted, I had not yet seen or heard the report about FBI/Maralago story

To be fair, I'm inferring you had not yet seen that report before posting either.

I'll just say, I'm not shocked or surprised in the least about that story.

What was your initial reaction to reading that story?

[bigtree]

11. I'm seeing an ongoing Trump docs investigation that's gathering steam

...so I'm left to regard all of this as old, inconsequential news.

[msfiddlestix]

12. yeah, ok.

[dem4decades]

2. I often wondered if the government would have more of a case if Tarrio was on the scene as opposed

to being barred from entering DC on the 6th.

Did the government gather more evidence with him not being there as opposed to if he actually attended?

[msfiddlestix]

8. I feel like I read a long time ago, that he was considered an informant.

I just vaguely remember reading some sort of skuffle butt with his peeps that he snitched out his comrades early on.

I feel like he was one of the first (if not the first on my radar) named terrorist ID'd just before or after J6.