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Stinky The Clown

(67,798 posts)
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 01:26 PM Mar 2023

Murdaugh's crimes were death penalty eligible. Mercifully, it was not sought.

That mercy is not, in my view, to Murdaugh.

Putting this defendant to death serves no one. The judge, in pronouncing sentence, told him he was certain his wife and son would visit him every night as he fell asleep in prison, with no hope of freedom.

I think that judge's pronouncement makes clear the error in the death penalty. It is too kind to the criminal. It allows them to escape their crimes.

All that said, on purely moral grounds, I am unequivocally opposed to the death penalty in any and all cases.

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Murdaugh's crimes were death penalty eligible. Mercifully, it was not sought. (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Mar 2023 OP
It just takes too long anyway. The appeals and other things can take 20 or more years. jimfields33 Mar 2023 #1
I hope he lives to be 200. RoadRunner Mar 2023 #2
That's a good sentence. blueinredohio Mar 2023 #3
Even if people deserve to die, none of us is flawless enough to carry out that punishment Bucky Mar 2023 #4
My opposition to the death penalty certainly isn't "bleeding heart" mercy Silent3 Mar 2023 #5
He has lost his freedom but he will do well in prison. former9thward Mar 2023 #6
I can see that. But, he will NEVER be free. Joinfortmill Mar 2023 #13
I'd Add Two Words ProfessorGAC Mar 2023 #14
Yes, of course. former9thward Mar 2023 #16
Let's end the "death penalty" for non-whites on the streets of our nation. And sometimes at home. usonian Mar 2023 #7
Some crimes are horrible enough to merit a death penalty IMHO FakeNoose Mar 2023 #8
Mostly Agree TuskMoar Mar 2023 #9
I'm pretty sure Dylan Root got the death penalty. Raftergirl Mar 2023 #10
Dylann Roof got life without parole from SC, but death penalty from the feds Kennah Mar 2023 #17
Ah. Gotcha. Raftergirl Mar 2023 #18
The death penalty drmeow Mar 2023 #11
He is wealthy and white. There was no mercy. Buckeyeblue Mar 2023 #12
I don't understand your comment vis a vis the OP Stinky The Clown Mar 2023 #15

Bucky

(54,005 posts)
4. Even if people deserve to die, none of us is flawless enough to carry out that punishment
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 02:25 PM
Mar 2023

The head count of people who've been freed from death row tells us all we need to know about human fallibility.

Silent3

(15,211 posts)
5. My opposition to the death penalty certainly isn't "bleeding heart" mercy
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 02:34 PM
Mar 2023

It's that I don't want that power of execution in the hands of the government, I prefer the lack of finality in a life sentence, which means that wrongly-convicted innocents can at least be freed and get part of their lives back, and yes, like you say, in some ways being executed is actually getting off too easily.

In my heart there are plenty of people I'd like to see suffer horribly for things that they have done. Fortunately I have enough wisdom to know I don't want a government empowered to carry out anyone's revenge fantasies, mine included.

former9thward

(32,004 posts)
6. He has lost his freedom but he will do well in prison.
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 02:44 PM
Mar 2023

Lawyers in general do very well in prison. The are well treated by both inmates and guards. The reason? Lawyers are able to help inmates on various appeals and other matters. They help guards with any legal matters they may have and they don't give anyone any trouble.

ProfessorGAC

(65,023 posts)
14. I'd Add Two Words
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:33 PM
Mar 2023

You said "he'll do well IN prison".
I think it better to say "he'll do well given he's in prison."
Prison is still prison. They are seldom good days. Just less horrible ones.

usonian

(9,795 posts)
7. Let's end the "death penalty" for non-whites on the streets of our nation. And sometimes at home.
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 03:25 PM
Mar 2023

Let's end the
RED of blood running in the streets from traffic stops and people brandishing sandwiches, the
WHITE supremacy ethnic cleansing of people of color,
AND BLUE invisible shield of protection for cops who cause wrongful deaths and torture.

I saw an earlier article on the death penalty and Murdoch
WHAT? I just misplaced my reading glasses.
Had an evil thought. But I am also totally opposed to the death penalty.



FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
8. Some crimes are horrible enough to merit a death penalty IMHO
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 03:48 PM
Mar 2023

However ...
I believe we are finally recognizing that the application of the death penalty is unfairly racist in certain states where it's still allowed. Rather than applying the death penalty in the hugely disproportionate way in black vs. white convictions, I believe we have the moral calling to banish the blind misuse altogether.

This is the 21st Century, and it's time we abolished the death penalty. I don't see how politics should even enter into this question. We claim to be civilized and educated, moral and "Christian," so why should it be necessary for the government to kill anyone? If the government has the power to legally kill citizens, who gets to decide which citizens should be killed?

TuskMoar

(83 posts)
9. Mostly Agree
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 03:54 PM
Mar 2023

I too am against the death penalty in any and all cases and glad it was not sought in this case. However, I am also concerned about disparities in how it is applied in those states where it is legal and this case leans into those concerns.

Kennah

(14,265 posts)
17. Dylann Roof got life without parole from SC, but death penalty from the feds
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 02:39 AM
Mar 2023

Supreme Court rejected his federal death penalty appeal in October. He has other appeals.

drmeow

(5,017 posts)
11. The death penalty
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 05:35 PM
Mar 2023

is only punishment if you are Christian and believe in heaven and have not sincerely asked for forgiveness before being put to death. I've always considered live without parole a much crueler punishment than the death penalty.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
12. He is wealthy and white. There was no mercy.
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 06:28 PM
Mar 2023

A poor person could not have paid for the defense Murdaugh received.

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