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In addition, the United States became the first country to sign a memorandum of understanding (MOU) with the seven-member Joint Investigative Team (JIT) that is investigating Russian atrocities in Ukraine. The MOU, signed by the Attorney General, will facilitate the United States cooperation and coordination with the JIT members as we collect evidence and investigate Russias atrocity crimes. It also signals our resolve that Russias invasion will not undermine our collective commitment to uphold human rights and preserve a free and democratic society.
At the conference, the Attorney General also met with Ukrainian President Zelenskyy, U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Brink, Ukrainian Prosecutor General Kostin, EU Commissioner Reynders, Polish Minister of Justice General Ziobro, and Polish National Public Prosecutor Barski, regarding operational cooperation on Russian war crimes and illicit finance and to further discussions about how the U.S. can partner internationally on these issues.
In sum, this conference both signals our joint resolve that Russias invasion will not undermine our collective commitment to preserving a free and democratic world and charts the way forward for our practical work to achieve that goal.
Attorney General Merrick B. Garland and Ukrainian Prosecutor General Andriy Kostin sign a Memorandum of Understanding with the with the seven-member Joint Investigative Team.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/readout-attorney-general-merrick-b-garland-s-trip-ukraine
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)ancianita
(36,190 posts)President Zelenskyy, Prosecutor General Kostin, and esteemed colleagues: it is an honor to be here with you on behalf of the United States Department of Justice.
Just over twelve months ago, invading Russian forces began committing atrocities at the largest scale in any armed conflict since the second World War.
We are here today in Ukraine to speak clearly, and with one voice: the perpetrators of those crimes will not get away with them.
Thirty years ago, at the dedication of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, the late Nobel Peace Prize winner and Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel issued a charge:
For the dead and the living, he said, we must bear witness.
For the past year, our colleagues in the Ukrainian Prosecutor Generals Office have risked their lives to bear witness.
Ukrainian prosecutors and investigators have worked tirelessly to uncover the truth of what is happening here in Ukraine, and to preserve and record it for future generations.
They have meticulously collected and catalogued evidence from the rubble of blast sites including hospitals, apartment buildings, and schools.
They have worked urgently to seek justice on behalf of the thousands of Ukrainian men, women, and children who have been killed.
They have exhumed mass graves and carefully studied the bodies of victims in order to tell the stories of those who no longer can.
They have documented the Russian regimes forced deportation of Ukrainian children and its use of sexual violence as a weapon of war.
They have worked relentlessly to pursue accountability for these crimes and make clear the costs of perpetrating them.
They have opened investigations, identified and tracked down suspects, and initiated prosecutions.
And they are only just getting started.
In bearing witness, Ukrainian prosecutors, like the Ukrainian people, have stood courageously in defense of democracy and in defense of the rule of law.
The United States Department of Justice is honored to stand beside you.
And we are honored to stand beside our international partners here today.
The courage of the Ukrainian people has inspired us all.
And it has galvanized cooperation in the international community to hold the Russian regime accountable for its crimes.
Just now, the United States signed an historic agreement with Ukraine, Lithuania, Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Slovakia, and Romania that will strengthen our efforts to hold Russian war criminals accountable.
This agreement will expand information sharing between our countries that will help us not only to identify and prosecute Russian war criminals, but to build winning cases against them.
In addition to strengthening our international partnerships, the United States is working more closely than ever with our Ukrainian partners in our investigations of Russian war crimes.
Together, American and Ukrainian prosecutors have zeroed in on specific crimes committed by Russian forces, including attacks on civilian targets.
We are working to identify not only the individuals who carried out these attacks, but those who ordered them.
As part of this effort, the Departments human rights prosecutors are providing advice and assistance to the Prosecutor Generals office on specific cases.
Our environmental crimes prosecutors are training their Ukrainian counterparts on the investigation and prosecution of potential environmental war crimes.
And we are partnering together to apply the lessons the Justice Department has learned from its own complex criminal investigations to assist the Prosecutor Generals Office in developing a secure electronic case management and analysis system.
This is not the first time the Justice Department has worked with the Ukrainian Prosecutor Generals Office to hold accountable those who committed atrocities in Ukraine.
Thirty years ago, the U.S. Justice Department and the Ukrainian Prosecutor Generals Office signed an agreement similar to the one that Prosecutor General Kostin and I signed in Washington last fall.
In 1993, the goal of that agreement was to deepen our countries cooperation on cases involving Nazi war crimes.
As a result, the Justice Department and the Prosecutor Generals Office successfully worked together to prove atrocity crimes in Nazi-occupied Ukraine.
This was integral to the Justice Departments own decades-long efforts to identify, denaturalize, and deport Nazi war criminals in the United States.
All told, the Departments Office of Special Investigations brought more than 130 cases against perpetrators of Nazi crimes.
The Justice Department and the American people have a long memory.
I am proud that I successfully persuaded the same prosecutor who led the Justice Departments work to investigate Nazi atrocity crimes to lead the Departments current efforts to investigate atrocity crimes in Ukraine.
I announced that effort the War Crimes Accountability Team when I visited Ukraine last June.
The U.S. Justice Department is also deploying our resources to hold accountable those whose criminal acts enable Russias continued brutality.
In March of last year, I announced the launch of the Justice Departments Task Force KleptoCapture. That team of prosecutors, agents, analysts, translators, professional staff, and law enforcement partners has been busy seizing assets, executing arrests, and bringing prosecutions against sanctioned enablers of the Kremlin and Russian military.
Last month, I authorized the United States first-ever transfer of seized assets to the U.S. State Department to support the rebuilding of Ukraine. There will be more to come.
In addition to our work in partnership with Ukraine and the international community, the United States has also opened criminal investigations into war crimes in Ukraine that may violate U.S. law.
Although we are still building our cases, interviewing witnesses, and collecting evidence, we have already identified specific suspects.
Our prosecutors are working day and night to bring them to justice as quickly as possible.
What is happening here in Ukraine has significantly re-shaped the way the United States approaches war crimes accountability.
Until recently, our jurisdiction over war crimes was limited to cases in which a U.S. national was a victim or perpetrator.
But earlier this year in the wake of Russias campaign of brutality Congress enacted a change in the law that will allow the U.S. Justice Department to prosecute alleged war criminals from anywhere in the world who are found in the United States.
And we intend to do so.
This means that in the years and decades ahead, Russian war criminals who set foot in our country should expect to find themselves in U.S. courts of law. War criminals will find no refuge in America.
In courageously defending itself against an authoritarian regime, Ukraine has demonstrated the stakes that we all have in the success of democracy and the Rule of Law.
The United States recognizes that what happens here in Ukraine will have a direct impact on the strength of our own democracy.
That is why, in addition to ensuring accountability for individual war crimes, the United States also supports efforts by the international community to ensure that individuals responsible for crimes of aggression are held accountable.
In doing so we can, and we should, look to the model established by the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg nearly eight decades ago.
In that effort, the United States and its allies demonstrated their faith in the Rule of Law to hold accountable those who perpetrated some of the worst crimes in history. That effort was led by one of my most illustrious predecessors as Attorney General Robert Jackson.
Our presence here today is proof that our faith in the Rule of Law has not wavered.
My grandmother was one of five children born not far from here, in what is now Belarus.
Three, including my grandmother, made it to the United States long before the Nazis invaded. Two did not make it. Those two were killed in the Holocaust.
My family does not know exactly when, or exactly where, they were killed. We do not know if anyone involved in their deaths was ever held accountable.
The families and descendants of the victims of the current atrocities in Ukraine deserve to know what happened to their loved ones. They deserve justice.
Today, members of the international community have joined together here in Ukraine to bear witness to the atrocities being committed by Russian forces.
We have come here to remember and reaffirm the humanity of the individuals who have been victimized by Russias brutal crimes.
And we have come here to seek justice and accountability under the law for all those who bear responsibility for those crimes.
Fulfilling those tasks will demand an enormous amount of work not only from the Ukrainian people and their leaders, but also from the international community.
It will require painstaking attention to the details of individual crimes, sifting through enormous amounts of rapidly mounting evidence, and a relentless commitment to justice.
And it will require us to continue to adhere to, and put our trust in, the Rule of Law.
The United States Department of Justice will do that work for as long as it takes.
Thank you.
erronis
(15,403 posts)I hope the USofA can be a part of the "rule of law" going forward also.
ancianita
(36,190 posts)FoxNewsSucks
(10,435 posts)That pollyanna hopefulness may feel good, but it's not realistic considering what is going on.
ShazzieB
(16,590 posts)"Pollyanna hopefulness," really? Just because some of us have not decided to give up hope yet?
For the love of little green apples, why can't we just freaking agree to disagree? I'm all for everyone being free to express their opinion, but it would sure be nice if people could just state their opinion without insulting those who hold a different one.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,435 posts)coming from Garland's cheerleaders who also have no direct knowledge and are expressing their opinion and condemning others.
The stakes are high. They'd better hope we're wrong, because if they are this country and world are totally screwed.
ShazzieB
(16,590 posts)I believe it was deliberately intended to be insulting. In my book, that means it's an insult.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,435 posts)yet apparently think implying some are "scolds" is an insult - while scolding!
As I said, my post is a response. I don't start the insulting, nor do I intend to sit here and take it.
Anyway, I could find no instance of you asking the "other side" to stop insulting, or to allow those with differing opinion to freely post it uninsulted. If I missed such posts, by all means, point them out. Otherwise, have a nice night.
Rhiannon12866
(206,502 posts)Thanks so much for posting!
ancianita
(36,190 posts)Rhiannon12866
(206,502 posts)And this was clearly both important and reassuring.
ShazzieB
(16,590 posts)Thanks for the op, and for standing up for those of us who haven't decided to give up hope.
I honestly can't understand why it makes some people so angry that some of us aren't rushing to throw Garland and the rest of the DOJ under all the busses.
I hear you. The scale of this national trauma has got people feeling sad, pissed off and bitter at the scale and pace of rule of law enforcement.
But that's a structural issue, and Garland is as good an AG as they come!
Response to ancianita (Reply #8)
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Cha
(297,911 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,494 posts)They are awesome
Lonestarblue
(10,125 posts)Most of NATO is on board as well. I hope Putin is charged in absentia with war crimes. He is another person who has never been held accountable for his many crimes.
ancianita
(36,190 posts)Garland will join with EU Commissioner Reynders, Polish Minister of Justice General Ziobro, and Polish National Public Prosecutor Barski, and Ukrainian Prosecutor General Kostin to represent multi-national plaintiffs before the ICJ.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,435 posts)the next republicon administration, just like MF45's, will have Putin's back.
ancianita
(36,190 posts)if we do our jobs right, there won't be one and Putin won't have anyone's backing. We've already warned China. As for losing a General Election, 2024 will still have the same numbers as 2020. Mail in voting is still the safest voting there is because it's protected by federal law, not state law.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,435 posts)Please read my post #16.
ancianita
(36,190 posts)because you speculate that we might lose. Puh-lease. If you're that full of fear, uncertainty and doubt, just take your FUD negativity somewhere else. It's not helping.
You are stubbornly refusing to see the numbers, and the accomplishments of this administration, and this DOJ, and how that will affect our win in 2024, that's all on you. If you're tired of being patient, you've got no sympathy from this Democrat.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,435 posts)Sorry it annoys you that I have no rose-colored glasses.
And your response acknowledges my suspicion that all the scolds will never ever admit they were wrong. Even though we will be glad to be proven wrong.
Have a nice night.
ancianita
(36,190 posts)FoxNewsSucks
(10,435 posts)ShazzieB
(16,590 posts)So we're scolds now? Okey dokey.
Look, you are welcome to hold whatever opinion you wish, afaic. All I ask is that you extend the sane courtesy to those who think differently.
Personally, I think we should be able to hold differing opinions and express them without resorting to insults and putdowns. I don't see why that should be so hard.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,435 posts)If I come across as "insulting", it's only a response in kind.
I appreciate your comment, and look forward to now searching out where you told Garland's cheerleaders the same thing. I'm sure those posts are equally plentiful.
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ancianita
(36,190 posts)Maybe it was his last comment about the whole DU site getting disappeared. Whatever.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,435 posts)ShazzieB
(16,590 posts)I missed that bit of excitement!
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)CaptainTruth
(6,612 posts)...idea what information he has nor do they have a detailed understanding of the relevant laws.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,435 posts)have NO insider info of what Garland is or is not doing.
What is known is this:
Republicons have continued to entrench voter suppression and other laws that will allow them to "win". Thanks to two allegedly-democratic Senators, that work was fast-tracked instead of reversed, and complete republicon fascist control is a near-term certainty despite the fact that the majority of the public doesn't want it.
The next republicon administration will undo this action by Garland, end all prosecution of tRumpCo, and prosecute Democrats.
That clock is quickly running out.
I'll gladly, SO FUCKING GLADLY, admit my thoughts on this are wrong should things turn out the way I really want.
But if not, will you and the other scolds admit you were wrong?
Of course, that assumes a President DeSatan will allow sites like this to continue. If the internet plug is pulled, we'll never find out.
Justice matters.
(6,952 posts)ONLY 18 months to go through all the delaying tactics* of the fascist side...
No Comey rule breaker on our side.
*5th's + Appeals + En-banc appeals + USSC appeals = OOPS... IF... = self-pardon + preemptive pardons to mob + kiss democracy goodbye.
Paladin
(28,280 posts)iemanja
(53,093 posts)and the 1/6 committee, but you keep pretending that's not relevant. Then you can celebrate what the next Republican administration does with the Trump case, because according to people like you it's too soon to expect an indictment anytime sooner.
!!!
BannonsLiver
(16,539 posts)🙄🙄🙄
mcar
(42,426 posts)Celerity
(43,655 posts)months or so left to indict Trump. After that it is within 60 days or so of the first primaries.
ancianita
(36,190 posts)He's got as long as the DOJ's grand jury exists -- until March 2024 -- and even after that. There's only a norm of 30 days before the November General Election. There was no norm or administrative limit on John Durham and there will be none for Smith. Katyal wrote the Special Counsel rules and said so. Regardless, Smith will be faster and better because he's already near the end of the work. He's not searching like Durham was, to prop up some political paranoia that came out of the Right.
Talk about a bit of a stretch.
Celerity
(43,655 posts)days before an election, not 30.
Smith doesn't have the power of indictment. Garland does, and Garland seems to be very much loathe to give off the slightest whiff of partisanship. Dropping an indictment on Trump in the middle of the Rethug primaries (that he likely will be winning) would most certainly face up as such.
I have remained neutral on Garland this entire time, and shall endeavour to remain so until we see what the final outcomes are likely to be.
ancianita
(36,190 posts)Neutral or not, I understand "wait and see," and that every thinking person is patient about that.
But the facts are that it's been an ongoing investigation. That Neal Katyal wrote the Special Counsel rules.
That Garland-Smith DOJ won't be waiting for Willis or James or Bragg. And that the Garland-Smith DOJ know the law enough to make sure that no one running in 2024 will be hit with indictments in the next 18 months.
And even if, by some deus ex machina, they are, do you really believe that, given what's objectively at stake, Garland will be afraid of seeming political?
When 90% of Trump's lawyers, along with officials of 8 states have already been before grand juries?
When Meadows has turned in 1,000s of docs and is up for the grand jury right now?
When Pence is up right now? And Pence's Chief of Staff AND his lawyer were up before the Garland grand jury twice (along with 30 other high up Trump officials) even before Smith took on the biggest sedition prosecution in history, and then won 8 sedition convictions so far, and has then had Marc Short in the grand jury a third time?
But saying Garland is badass is a stretch. Fine.
Celerity
(43,655 posts)I am neither a constant whinger about about Garland like some are, nor am I a Garland stan like others.
I so hope Trump, the worst, single most destructive human being the US has ever produced, is indicted, convicted (at both state and federal levels), and never, ever, ever is elected to any position again. Miles to go before that all happens though.
ancianita
(36,190 posts)I agree with you about Trump. I just can't see any way, however, that the road to indictments will be long into 2024; rather, more like this summer during the August recess.
Celerity
(43,655 posts)the subject.
I also want to repeat that I am not at all one of those posters who always is having a go at Garland.
You can find that type in any one of hundreds of OP threads (or they sometimes are the OP producers themselves) since January 6 went down.
Here is one, for example:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217698500
cheers
ancianita
(36,190 posts)I pay attention to the flood of cheap shot empty posters and the venting threads.
Here's another doozy:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217615240#post2
I'm well aware that you're not at all among them.
Cheers.
Tribetime
(4,714 posts)As the cartoon says
Garland is Pete Puma
Silent3
(15,423 posts)...since we're moving at about the pace of a handling a corporate IP lawsuit instead of acting as if we're facing an existential internal threat.
ancianita
(36,190 posts)Just more along the lines of his being a consultant to our National Guard. Or an ambassador.
News Junkie
(312 posts)So he shook hands and signed a paper in support of a popular leader in a popular war. Yeah, that took guts.
sheshe2
(83,989 posts)News Junkie
(312 posts)But declaring him a badass for doing it is a real stretch. He's been anything but badass as AG.
sheshe2
(83,989 posts)You trivialized not only his actions, he shook hands and signed a paper, you took a shot at President Zelenskyy. His people are dying, his country is being destroyed and they still have the courage to stand for their freedoms. He is not a "popular" President, he is not a rock star. He is taking care of his people.
Last, you have made a mockery of all the men, women and children of Ukraine that have died by calling it a "popular war". They have had their homes, businesses, cities and their lives destroyed.
War is not popular and it sure as hell is not a joke.
News Junkie
(312 posts)and the war effort is popular in the sense the American people support Ukrainian defense of their country with our help. A leader or war being popular reflects support for the effort, not the hardship.
And the broader point remains. This trip doesn't make Garland a 'badass'.
Cha
(297,911 posts)ancianita
(36,190 posts)Forget the power, security and grueling travel it took for each of them to get to an active war front.
Forget the structural unity of social, diplomatic military, economic and legal action they each set up, and then the grueling travel back.
Just a photo op. No guts. Okay, cheap shot empty poster smart guy.
iemanja
(53,093 posts)Who is responsible for federal justice within the borders of the USA. Some of us want to see Trump indicted, but that's clearly an unpopular position among the Garland fan club.
Sewa
(1,265 posts)Clearly a PR move after Garlands weak performance at the senate hearing.
Beastly Boy
(9,525 posts)to come to a war zone all at the same time, two days after Garland testified, just to divert attention from Garland's testimony, which, BTW, went pretty well for Garland.
Sounds totally believable and logical.
Sewa
(1,265 posts)Bait n switch doesnt work on me. Try another tactic sport. 💀🤙
Beastly Boy
(9,525 posts)So what is the bait and what is the switch? You just agreed with the assessment that Garland being invited to and having attended an international conference on war crimes in a war zone is a PR move to divert attention from what you called Garland's weak performance at the senate hearing. I demonstrated how ridiculous this assessment is: Ukrainian Prosecutor General organizing an international conference and inviting a bunch of foreign dignitaries to an international conference in a war zone two days after Garland's testimony in the Senate so Garland can make his PR move is a proposition that defies all logic.
So I baited you with your ridiculous assessment and switched to demonstrating how ridiculous your assessment is? Huh?
I don't think "bait and switch" means what you think it means.
iemanja
(53,093 posts)Trump is still walking around free. But obviously the photo op worked.
republianmushroom
(13,785 posts)Senate Republicans Panic As Trump's Poll Numbers Surge
hadEnuf
(2,222 posts)that some still do not seem to fully understand what we are dealing with here and the urgency that it needs to be addressed.
ancianita
(36,190 posts)enough of us do to see the full importance of Pelosi, Austin, Blinken, Biden, Yellen and Garland visiting the front line of a violent war that defends Western democracy.
It's the frustration that most aware folks probably have to learn to live with.
ShazzieB
(16,590 posts)Here's what I found out, in case anyone else us wondering:
Key to the flags, some but not all of which are shown in the 2nd photo:
Ukraine 🇺🇦
Poland 🇵🇱
Latvia 🇱🇻
Estonia 🇪🇪
Slovakia 🇸🇰
Romania 🇷🇴
Lithuania 🇱🇹
Source of the above info (and many more details): https://www.eurojust.europa.eu/eurojust-and-the-war-in-ukraine
ancianita
(36,190 posts)Goodheart
(5,351 posts)electric_blue68
(14,979 posts)so I still have hope.
This action demonstrating continuing support for Ukraine (undergoing a genuinely risky trip) against a war making dictator is in a way a protest on a continuum of hideous, and henious behavior* that drumphf could have slid into if he'd manged to illegally hold onto the Presidency.
*Probably not war making with another country (but who knows!), but possibly into probable range of sending some kind of armed people to quell descent in blue areas, cities etc ... the "national emergency" BS, etc.