No one "knows", but this is what I think after listening to snips of Trump's CPAC speech.

[Atticus]

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When he speaks of being his followers' "justice"---their "retribution"---he is dog-whistling to his most deranged disciples to hurt people, kill people, burn their houses and terrorize their children because all this will be justified and necessary to "re-annoint" him as their "Lord and Savior".

And, can anyone doubt that one of his twisted fascist cultists actually called for the EXTERMINATION of trans folks?

This may frighten some.

It pisses me off---royally!

[Trenzalore]

1. As the election draws closer

Attacks on groups considered to be part of the democratic party coalition will increase. They will use mass shootings to try to intimidate us.

[unweird]

2. They will?

Hell, the white supremacist faction already is engaging in mass shootings!

[Trenzalore]

4. That is the group they are stirring up

and that will be the primary weapon of violence

[EYESORE 9001]

3. I don't regard 'retribution' as a dog whistle

It’s more like a clarion call. I hope law enforcement is up to the task…not active participants.

[gab13by13]

7. Fox is a key player

without Fox promoting this, Trump would be nothing.

I agree about law enforcement, it is fine that other people may sue Fox but where the hell is DOJ? Fox can be sued criminally for campaign finance law violations. Fox gave President Biden ads to Trump and also gave info regarding who was watching those ads and how many.

I have no hope that DOJ will do anything about this because it would make them appear to be partisan.

[onecaliberal]

14. It IS political. He's a fucking lunatic trying to overthrow the government inciting crazy to help.

[FalloutShelter]

20. THIS

and it's not just FAUX news... the MSM never tires of putting his mug on the screen.
They never tire of giving the Monster oxygen.

[Mossfern]

30. This is what I was shouting

at y TV and husband. There is no rule that says that his speeches or actions need to be televised. I'm just disgusted with MSM "news" that panders to sensationalism without thinking about the consequences of their action. This guy should not be covered. The sane part of the US needs to just shun anything Trump.

[judesedit]

16. FAUX also got many MAGA's stirred up with their stolen election lies.Therefore, instigating Jan 6th

[Traildogbob]

17. Fox has a lot of help,

News Max OAN and the newest step child, “The First” with the return of O’Reilly and Dana Loesch.
They have 2 channels. And the massive amount of radio and podcasters, like Bannon, Jones and even Fox propagandists like Tuckums and Hannity have radio shows and podcasts.
There is an Army of hate filled, kill libs media hard at it. Do I need to mention Elon?

[SouthernDem4ever]

21. They need to be tied up in court with endless lawsuits

I for one, endure a lot of pain and suffering from their lies and misrepresentations. I think America as whole should start class-action civil suits against them.

[Traildogbob]

23. 🤜🤛

Make that 2. They have weaponized the first and second amendment to kill Americans. And no end in sight.

[Eyeball_Kid]

25. Wray warns of domestic terrorism, doesn't he?

It seems that any violence sanctioned by Trump is off limits. I wonder if others have the same intuition.

[wnylib]

57. I would agree with you IF it was anyone else speaking.

But when Trump says it, you can reverse the words to, "You are my retribution." He expects them to put him in office to get retribution on Democrats, "woke" people, the Justice system, Republicans who oppose him, and individuals and groups who have filed charges against him.

When he expresses it as "I am your retribution," he is enlisting his followers in retribution as a joint project between him and them. It is the same as his J6 speech. He is calling on them to unleash their anger and hatred on the country on his behalf and theirs.

Trump is again calling for violence from his followers and is promising that he will be their partner in it.

The only questions now are: 1) How many of his followers will heed the call and how many will want to avoid further violence after their J6 experience of it, and, 2) Will someone in the Republican establishment arrange for Trump to "go through some things" in order to be rid of him?

[Artcatt]

5. Spot-on.

[Javaman]

6. Of course he does, he's a psychopath nt

[kentuck]

8. That is exactly what is happening.

Just as he was pledging "justice for all" in his "song" with the imprisoned insurrectionists.

He is desperate and trying to get the old gang back together.

[3825-87867]

9. Wanna scare the shit out of the Right?

Imagine if the rest of the country all bought AR-15s and started carrying to rallies and meetings and schools and churches...and to NRA, Trump, DeSantis and Abbott rallies...and town hall meetings, police events, drag shows, Disney World, The Republican Convention, Fox, Newsmax and Sinclair Media Outlets...
and especially National and STate and Local Congresses (in session) and political rallies!

It'll be just like the Old West! Fun for everyone. Good times!

(Do I need the /s?)

[Eyeball_Kid]

26. IMO, you are conjuring MYTHS about the old West, just as most people do.

Even in the old West, people wanted to live in peace. Guns were prohibited inside the town limits in a lot of places, and in other areas, folks had to disarm before going into public houses. Now, in open carry states, it's far worse.

[allegorical oracle]

33. Yep. Even in Wyatt Earp's day, people had to remove their guns and leave them at the

sheriff's office. Today, it's far more dangerous with the auto/semi-auto weapons. So, for those of us who have a demented governor pushing "Constitutional Carry," must we go out and buy an assault weapon to protect ourselves??

[hadEnuf]

27. Maybe it isn't sarcasm.

Trump should be in jail and his murderous followers should be hiding in the hills while being hunted down by the national guard. But instead we are watching the deranged dictator wannabe planning the next violent coup in front of us while his followers are continuing to plan, prepare and arm.

As I've said before, I think many still don't quite understand what we are really dealing with here.

[Duppers]

51. +100

[Snarkoleptic]

10. I'm in a blue part of a red county.

Last week I saw a bumper sticker - "Trump 2024 - The Revenge Tour"
These are some sick fucks.

[allegorical oracle]

35. Traveled to a rural city near me yesterday and saw a black banner--professionally printed. It

displayed "the finger" with huge white letters saying "F**k Biden!". Upsetting.

[keithbvadu2]

53. Totally acceptable to repubs/conservatives/Trump Christians to display to children.

[Boomerproud]

11. I weep for what this country has become.

[flying_wahini]

12. I also noticed that a couple of 'Weapons in Suitcase' stories last week were

Both headed to Florida. Hmmm. Makes me wonder.

It goes without saying it won’t take much to set the old gang off.

[LaMouffette]

56. I didn't make the connection before, but now I'm wondering, too: Were these latest terrorists

headed to Florida to take out DeSatan for their god Trump???

[rubbersole]

13. He'll put out the call for violence when his trial(s) start to go south.

The DOJ will have to provide unprecedented security for anyone brave/patriotic enough to indict the pos.

[paleotn]

15. Some evilgelicals have been calling

for the extermination of LGBTQ+ folks for years. He's echoing the haters because he's a hater too and the haters love him for it.

[Wounded Bear]

18. For a minute there, I thought you had a spelling error in your post...

[Eyeball_Kid]

29. Trump "hates" to gain power. He really has no focus, except to advance power.

Because he's a generic hater, he's more dangerous.

[Evolve Dammit]

38. yeah. They would love to see them all killed. No doubt in my mind.

[yardwork]

19. He's definitely using Christian evangelical phrasing to encourage violence.

Whether he wants people to enact the violence is debatable. He certainly wants to stir people up, get them angry and upset. This makes it easier to manipulate them. People who are riled up don't think clearly.

He's stirring up mob behavior in order to get elected again, and have people go along with things that benefit Trump and his cronies. It's a fascist tactic.

[Samrob]

28. And they ripe for picking. They are mostly empty of the ability to think for themselves.nt

[Martin68]

43. "Whether he wants people to enact the violence is debatable." I disagree. He already demonstrated

that in the lead up to the violent Jan 6 attack on Congress.

[yardwork]

45. I agree that Trump has said numerous things that appear to encourage violence.

He and other Republicans hide behind the excuse that they're not being literal, but...

[AllaN01Bear]

22. sorry. i cant stand looking at him and hearing his voice .

[Eyeball_Kid]

24. You aren't the only one.

Trump is a sick person who intends to incite others to take revenge on people he doesn't like, but more to the point, Trump wants to create violence and chaos as a sign of power. And you can bet that there are more wary people inside the GOP leadership who are taking note of his veiled threats of violence as a signal that they need to disarm him before he DOES incite widespread mayhem. It's what he wants, and it's not good for a national brand.

[lees1975]

31. I think you are pretty close to the truth.

He has to depend on the extremes now to even get people to show up at his rallies. You're right on track. He's in Putin's pocket, and that's how Russia wins without firing a shot.

[Warpy]

32. It pisses me off, too, why can't that fat slob disappear and play with his money?

He could still be the fundagelical Second Coming even if he never made another dumb speech, once those folks fixate on something, and couldn't they do better than that? they never seem to let go of it.

In any case, the babbling mania of CPAC is convincing me more and more that 2024 is the year of the donnybrook at the GOP convention. The cameras will cut discreetly away, but there will be teeth, hair and eyes all over the place.

[Warpy]

48. I think the only thing they have on him is that he's dead broke

and mortgaged up to his hair plugs. His money is gone, he's nothing and he knows it. Narcissists can't be nothing.

[yardwork]

46. He doesn't have any money.

It's all a con, a shell game. He can only survive by making it look like he's doing things. When the activity stops, he'll come up empty - maybe worse. He owes a lot of money to a lot of very dangerous people.

[Warpy]

47. He still gets to pretend he does

He still gets to move from one golf course resort to another via private jet. He still gets to overcharge the taxpayers for SS accommodations when they're protecting himself and his idiot family. And he's still being treated like he was the richest man on the planet by his adoring fans.

Oh, and those dangerous people aren't so dangerous any more. They're either sequestered inside Russia or away from their bank accounts. A hit on TFG would be incredibly expensive.

[Joinfortmill]

34. Agree and, to me, it's a sign of how frightened he is of the reckoning coming for him.

[Evolve Dammit]

39. I'm with ya Atticus

[stollen]

40. I had just left the DC Holocaust Museum upon reading that

Surreal. I went to Ben Cline's constituent meeting a week prior. He's a yes-man for neo nazis.

[ananda]

41. Me too! It's just more stochastic terrorism.

I hate that kind of speech with a passion.

[Martin68]

42. Since he started his first campaign Trump has employed the threat of violence as a tool. That

culminated with the attack on Congress on Jan. 6.

[republianmushroom]

44. 25 months and counting

[bluestarone]

49. Right on!

Plus we gotta listen to TWO more years of these FN threats! Indictments will help, but will NOT stop this piece of ELEPHANT SHIT!

[WarGamer]

50. Nah...

He's saying HE will be the sword they wield.

You've got it precisely 180* off.

All those people that piss you off... elect me to deliver the retribution"

[Captain Zero]

52. Yes. Which makes him a God.

Old testament style.
And a blasphemer, old testament style.

[WarGamer]

54. He's simply full of it.

[Duppers]

55. Think they deep down in their psyches

They have a collective fear and inferiority complex. They want to attach themselves to something they think is powerful. I know this is true of my brother & his friends.