Are We Ready For The Storm To Come? (Trump Indictment(s) & GOP Primaries), w/Poll

[winetourdriver01]

As a Time Lord I love to play a little game with myself. I like to predict the future and then jump forward in time to see if I’m right. Ok, I really can’t time travel, but I still like predicting things and then sit around and wait with the rest of you humans to see if I was right. So with that preface, here’s a question I’ve been pondering for some time:
What Will The GOP Do If When Trump Is Indicted?

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[Trenzalore]

1. They will rally around him

An indictment almost ensures he is the nominee

[2naSalit]

2. Anything and everything.

[Runningdawg]

3. They will spend all their time defending the terrorist attacks that will be rampant.

[Beastly Boy]

4. Well, well...All those people living in fear of Garland sitting on his hands as time is running out,

take note: it doesn't mean jack shit whether Trump gets indicted before the primaries or not. A cursory look at the US Constitution makes it pretty clear that an indictment, or conviction, or even imprisonment do not prohibit anyone from running or even serving as President.

C'mon, folks, it's time to wake up and smell the coffee! Garland is not your malignant wizard who can single-handedly, at the swing of his magic wand, prevent Trump from running, but is refusing (or afraid, or incompetent) to do so. He is not at fault for the US Constitution existing in its present form.

If Trump ever becomes President again, it will be the fault of You the People, not DOJ. So quit deluding yourselves with projecting your fears onto someone who is neither responsible nor entrusted by law to relieve them. Every time the urge to bash Garland becomes overwhelming, look in the mirror and remind yourselves: you are looking at the only person capable of stopping Trump.

Vote, dammit!

[wnylib]

5. +10,000

[lees1975]

7. An indictment, no

though an indictment will guarantee he loses if he is the nominee. But a conviction, yes, that disqualifies him.

So that's why this needs to move along.

[Beastly Boy]

10. There is nothing in the Constitution that hints at a disqualification.

And there is no precedent for it either. If this issue gets raised, it will take years to resolve, and the resolution, according to most legal experts, is not likely to favor disqualification

[lees1975]

14. Theoretically a conviction is an automatic disqualifier.

It is not directly mentioned in the constitution, however, most states have laws that would prevent someone who has been convicted of a felony from having their name put on the ballot. I know in my state, if you aren't registered to vote, you can't run for office and I would guess most states have that legislation in place.

[Beastly Boy]

16. Not according to Politifacts

Previous Supreme Court rulings hold that a state cannot prohibit indicted or convicted felons from running for federal office, and Congress cannot add qualifications to the office of president, said Derek Muller, a law professor at the University of Iowa.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/aug/09/can-donald-trump-run-president-if-convicted-removi/

I imagine this goes to the Constitution which (I forget where) states that federal laws prevail over state laws if there is a conflict between the two.

[Frasier Balzov]

8. But when a party puts forward a criminal as their candidate

we'd LIKE to think it effectively disqualifies him from receiving our votes.

Until Trump officially becomes a criminal, the rationalization to nominate him will persist.

[Beastly Boy]

11. The voters are the only one who can determine this regardless of what we'd like to think.

Our thoughts will not stop trump.

[gratuitous]

6. They'll whine and piss and pule, and play the aggrieved victims of imaginary misfortune

In other words, same as always.

[wnylib]

9. When Trump is indicted, he will do what he does best

and play the victim card masterfully. He will call upon his followers to "stand up for justice" and exonerate him by electing him as their retribution.

With red states prepared to carry out whatever shenanigans are necessary to guarantee a Republican win, Trump might succeed in winning the general election. But even if he does not win it, he will attempt to seize office through violence that will dwarf J6. He might resort to that violence before election day to intimidate anyone who likely would not vote for him.

Trump and his accomplices and followers are so entrenched and fanatically dedicated that I don't see any way out of their grip that does not involve violence. I am not advocating violence. I am concerned though that since the fascist movement is so strong and fanatically determined to advance their "cause" through violence and intimidation, they will initiate it in a way that makes it necessary for us to defend ourselves. They WANT internal war and violence against all who disagree with them. Even if they got control of all of the branches of government without violence, once in power, they would carry it out against all of their "enemies."

[LetMyPeopleVote]

12. "I will not resign if indicted." Hmm... Where have we heard that before?

Link to tweet

[LetMyPeopleVote]

13. In 2016, TFG warned about unprecedented constitutional crisis-a sitting POTUS under indictment

Link to tweet

[JCMach1]

15. Indictment will cement his nomination