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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGarlands good, quick, work has been mostly ignored.
To track down over a thousand people, charge them, put hundreds of them on trial, getting convictions, in less than two years is an amazing feat. That part of the investigation is near the end. An immense amount of evidence has been gathered. While people have been complaining about Garland, he has been hard at work.
The investigations are now focusing on the people at the top.
In my opinion the debates about Trump being indicted are over. He is going to be indicted.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Omnipresent
(5,711 posts)Tfg is overdue for trial.
Paladin
(28,256 posts)I'm tired of being disappointed.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Its like tightening a noose.
pirsquared
(77 posts)More like a net where the big fish escape and only little ones are caught.
I find it very hard to believe he will.
The people who are being prosecuted now are small fish, ordinary people who got caught up in this.
Beastly Boy
(9,335 posts)They are grossly overused. And, more importantly, they absolutely do not reflect the facts.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,855 posts)Every day, every hour, every second Trump continues to be free makes a mockery of "justice".
Fitzmas all over again.
Chainfire
(17,536 posts)DOJ has already delayed long enough to allow Trump another shot at the White House. He should have been indicted after the classified documents were found last Summer, just like any other citizen would have been.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)and effective at accelerating the movement of people away from the fascists and authoritarians.
Orrex
(63,208 posts)I've gone back and forth on whether indictment would drive KKKultists away from or reaffirm their worship of their sacred orange leader.
I hope very sincerely that you are correct.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)... will be increasingly swayed away.
Orrex
(63,208 posts)Chainfire
(17,536 posts)Not trying just to be argumentative, but an indictment will give him the great martyr aura, and it does not prevent him from running for office. Trump will use an indictment to raise great volumes of cash to fight the latest "witch hunt." I want to see an indictment as soon as possible, but an indictment today is too late to save us from a Trump run for President. Trump has already "won" that battle.
Beastly Boy
(9,335 posts)DOJ just has no authority to stop Trump from having a shot at the White House.No deflections to delays or indictments will ever change this.
Talitha
(6,586 posts)mcar
(42,311 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Seems to me that indictments without a corresponding gag order would allow him to run on judicial unfairness and poison the jury pool even more than its current state.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)Maybe that indictment from (I think) 2018 crimes and later is not evidence of "quick", but it is evidence of Garland's full plate.
There are many investigations that bring indictments that are swiftly forgotten in the rush to "prove" how Garland is not in a rush. Corruption, mass shootings, Boogaloo boys, drug interdiction, supporting Ukraine in war crimes investigations, organized crime, too many for me to be able to list here.
We know Garland is not in a rush, but I'm confident he is moving as quickly as he can without jeopardizing the result. Yes, I know statue of limitations expired on one (1) rump crime, but I do not know just how easily or not conviction would have been when the main evidence is from a convicted felon (Michael Cohen, who we tend to trust but juries might not).
In any case it is out of Garland's hands now. Smith is doing the investigating and charging.
How long before a chorus of "Smith is doing nothing" threads arise?
BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)I think this is an attempt to normalize indictment. Hes trying to get out in front of it.
I, too, have worries about it actually happening, but that statement by Trump really made me think that hed been told to expect it. The strategy of essentially ignoring this historic legal action against an ex-POTUS has been determined by his band of weasels to be his best approach.
My apologies to weasels everywhere.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)The world awaits