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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 10:12 AM Mar 2023

Garlands good, quick, work has been mostly ignored.

To track down over a thousand people, charge them, put hundreds of them on trial, getting convictions, in less than two years is an amazing feat. That part of the investigation is near the end. An immense amount of evidence has been gathered. While people have been complaining about Garland, he has been hard at work.

The investigations are now focusing on the people at the top.

In my opinion the debates about Trump being indicted are over. He is going to be indicted.

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Garlands good, quick, work has been mostly ignored. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Mar 2023 OP
K&R !! secondwind Mar 2023 #1
Post-haste Mr. Garland! Omnipresent Mar 2023 #2
I'll believe in a trump indictment when it happens. Not before. Paladin Mar 2023 #3
Trump loyalists get indicted first. That is how this works. secondwind Mar 2023 #4
big fish allowed to escape pirsquared Mar 2023 #21
Me too Bettie Mar 2023 #5
Can yu please come up with idioms other than small fish or low ganging fruit? They are meaningless. Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #15
I agree with you. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2023 #20
If he were indicted today, he would be able to delay trial until the elections are over. Chainfire Mar 2023 #8
However desirable trial is (very), indictment will be a "bombshell" Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2023 #11
Now *that's* an interesting observation Orrex Mar 2023 #12
It won't drive cultists away. But the leaners who bought the Fox "peaceful protestors" line Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2023 #13
:thumbsup: Orrex Mar 2023 #17
Which of Trump's supporters do you think will abandon him because of an indictment. Chainfire Mar 2023 #22
And any indictment, or trial, or conviction, at any time, will not prevent Trump from running. Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #16
K&R Talitha Mar 2023 #6
Kick! mcar Mar 2023 #7
Under what circumstances could a gag order be implemented? Mr. Ected Mar 2023 #9
This is on top of Garland nailing corrupt FBI agent in Giuliani's pet office, and Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2023 #10
At CPAC Trump said he'll run even if indicted. BadgerMom Mar 2023 #14
Good call on "attempt to normalize indictment". They have normalized so much deplorableness already. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2023 #19
When? Dirty Socialist Mar 2023 #18
I agree with your analysls LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2023 #23
k&r BlueWaveNeverEnd Mar 2023 #24

Bettie

(16,104 posts)
5. Me too
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 10:49 AM
Mar 2023

I find it very hard to believe he will.

The people who are being prosecuted now are small fish, ordinary people who got caught up in this.

Beastly Boy

(9,335 posts)
15. Can yu please come up with idioms other than small fish or low ganging fruit? They are meaningless.
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 12:27 PM
Mar 2023

They are grossly overused. And, more importantly, they absolutely do not reflect the facts.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,855 posts)
20. I agree with you.
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 12:53 PM
Mar 2023

Every day, every hour, every second Trump continues to be free makes a mockery of "justice".

Fitzmas all over again.

Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
8. If he were indicted today, he would be able to delay trial until the elections are over.
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 11:03 AM
Mar 2023

DOJ has already delayed long enough to allow Trump another shot at the White House. He should have been indicted after the classified documents were found last Summer, just like any other citizen would have been.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
11. However desirable trial is (very), indictment will be a "bombshell"
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 12:02 PM
Mar 2023

and effective at accelerating the movement of people away from the fascists and authoritarians.

Orrex

(63,208 posts)
12. Now *that's* an interesting observation
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 12:05 PM
Mar 2023

I've gone back and forth on whether indictment would drive KKKultists away from or reaffirm their worship of their sacred orange leader.

I hope very sincerely that you are correct.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
13. It won't drive cultists away. But the leaners who bought the Fox "peaceful protestors" line
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 12:09 PM
Mar 2023

... will be increasingly swayed away.

Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
22. Which of Trump's supporters do you think will abandon him because of an indictment.
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 02:40 PM
Mar 2023

Not trying just to be argumentative, but an indictment will give him the great martyr aura, and it does not prevent him from running for office. Trump will use an indictment to raise great volumes of cash to fight the latest "witch hunt." I want to see an indictment as soon as possible, but an indictment today is too late to save us from a Trump run for President. Trump has already "won" that battle.

Beastly Boy

(9,335 posts)
16. And any indictment, or trial, or conviction, at any time, will not prevent Trump from running.
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 12:36 PM
Mar 2023

DOJ just has no authority to stop Trump from having a shot at the White House.No deflections to delays or indictments will ever change this.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
9. Under what circumstances could a gag order be implemented?
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 11:34 AM
Mar 2023

Seems to me that indictments without a corresponding gag order would allow him to run on judicial unfairness and poison the jury pool even more than its current state.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
10. This is on top of Garland nailing corrupt FBI agent in Giuliani's pet office, and
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 12:00 PM
Mar 2023

Maybe that indictment from (I think) 2018 crimes and later is not evidence of "quick", but it is evidence of Garland's full plate.

There are many investigations that bring indictments that are swiftly forgotten in the rush to "prove" how Garland is not in a rush. Corruption, mass shootings, Boogaloo boys, drug interdiction, supporting Ukraine in war crimes investigations, organized crime, too many for me to be able to list here.

We know Garland is not in a rush, but I'm confident he is moving as quickly as he can without jeopardizing the result. Yes, I know statue of limitations expired on one (1) rump crime, but I do not know just how easily or not conviction would have been when the main evidence is from a convicted felon (Michael Cohen, who we tend to trust but juries might not).

In any case it is out of Garland's hands now. Smith is doing the investigating and charging.

How long before a chorus of "Smith is doing nothing" threads arise?

BadgerMom

(2,771 posts)
14. At CPAC Trump said he'll run even if indicted.
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 12:09 PM
Mar 2023

I think this is an attempt to normalize indictment. He’s trying to get out in front of it.

I, too, have worries about it actually happening, but that statement by Trump really made me think that he’d been told to expect it. The strategy of essentially ignoring this historic legal action against an ex-POTUS has been determined by his band of weasels to be his best approach.

My apologies to weasels everywhere.

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