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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,956 posts)
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 02:19 PM Mar 2023

NBC's Presidential Historian Claims 'Rick DeSantis' Turning Himself Into 'Local Mussolini,'

NBC News presidential historian Michael Beschloss dubbed Florida Governor Ron DeSantis (R) a “local Mussolini” in a rant targeting the Republican as more of a threat to Democrats than Donald Trump.

While discussing Trump’s various criminal probes and how they will affect his 2024 run over the weekend on MSNBC, Beschloss said the former president has the “survival abilities of a cockroach,” but pointed to DeSantis — referred to as “Rick DeSantis” — as the pressing threat among Republicans, comparing him to fascist Benito Mussolini.

Beschloss said:

“Look at what Rick DeSantis has done in Florida. He was known as a s sort of nondescript political leader and member of Congress. Suddenly, he really has tried to turn himself into a local Mussolini in Florida with the book banning and the brutal tactics and even this week this suggestion that bloggers have to register with the state for the honor of writing about the governor and other political leaders. We have to call this what this is. This is fascism and authoritarianism that goes beyond even what Trump has talked about.”

DeSantis has targeted books deemed explicit in public schools, leading to accusations he is seeking to target LGBTQ and Black history-related materials. The latest controversy Florida finds itself in though is a bill introduced by a state senator — Republican Jason Brodeur — that would require bloggers to file a report with the state if they are writing about the governor or other administration officials.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/nbc-s-presidential-historian-claims-rick-desantis-turning-himself-into-local-mussolini-goes-beyond-trump/ar-AA18hTZU

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NBC's Presidential Historian Claims 'Rick DeSantis' Turning Himself Into 'Local Mussolini,' (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2023 OP
Tallahassee Mussolini dweller Mar 2023 #1
Alexi Sayle (The Young Ones) TheBlackAdder Mar 2023 #26
"We Take Absolutely Anyone" Pinback Mar 2023 #31
Well, he sure has Florida whooped. ananda Mar 2023 #2
My thinking is DENVERPOPS Mar 2023 #12
Yep Rebl2 Mar 2023 #36
The Florida fascist Takket Mar 2023 #3
John Oliver absolutely destroyed Ron DeSantis last night. This is a MUST Watch! LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2023 #4
Thanks! Wow, the hater comments thrown at Oliver! ancianita Mar 2023 #10
Cut off mid sentence MagickMuffin Mar 2023 #15
TY, LMPV, Oliver, & Krassenstein. Cha Mar 2023 #20
DeathSantis is a facist LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2023 #5
I have lived in Florida under Jeb and Scott. I thought they were bad. Pacifist Patriot Mar 2023 #6
Louisiana here, daughter in the same city. It's the only reason we're not in Cascadia already. MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #33
Fair analogy! Pacifist Patriot Mar 2023 #37
100%!! 👍👍 InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2023 #7
I'd root for the same life end IbogaProject Mar 2023 #8
I thought about hoping an alligator would get him, but that would be animal abuse. niyad Mar 2023 #24
The next thing deSATAN is going to do is lock up for some screwy reason some journalists. Just SWBTATTReg Mar 2023 #9
DeSantis is a full-blown fascist dictator. dalton99a Mar 2023 #11
Plenty of Floridians praise him for making the economy strong (aka making the trains run on time). LonePirate Mar 2023 #13
Let me ask a question I asked in another thread Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2023 #16
Agriculture is HUGE. Florida is in the top ten of Beef Cattle producing states A HERETIC I AM Mar 2023 #28
i have no idea how big a part of the economy it is, but mopinko Mar 2023 #29
"We seriously underestimate..." markodochartaigh Mar 2023 #19
I think dump has talked plenty about muzzling the media ..banning them etc etc etc !! GuppyGal Mar 2023 #14
My thoughts? DEATHSANTIS cannot do this alone bluestarone Mar 2023 #17
It is a spreading cancer that has metastasized in some states. Legislation proposed is other states Evolve Dammit Mar 2023 #21
Just what we've been saying Cha Mar 2023 #18
Agree malaise Mar 2023 #22
May he, and his enablers, receive everything they deserve. niyad Mar 2023 #23
So Mote It BE. Silver Gaia Mar 2023 #32
why is he caling him Rick? Mistake or some other reason? LymphocyteLover Mar 2023 #25
That's exactly what impresses republicans. Kablooie Mar 2023 #27
K&R UTUSN Mar 2023 #30
the "survival abilities of a cockroach," 2naSalit Mar 2023 #34
Midget Mussolini meow2u3 Mar 2023 #35

DENVERPOPS

(8,817 posts)
12. My thinking is
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 03:42 PM
Mar 2023

that there are countless "Brain Lazy" people out there, who must find it excruciatingly painful to think for themselves, and prefer the profoundly easier route of wanting someone to not only to tell them WHAT to think, but, also, quite literally, what NOT to think..................

That was shown every day in Rush Limbaugh's propaganda when he would say to his viewers: "Let me tell you how to think about that"

A Remedial course in Brainwashing, or at best, Brainwashing 101...........

***********************************************************************

AND, add to that, the racist angle, which explains even more about this "New Republican" crowd of White Nationalists........

Lyndon B. Johnson said it best:

President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

Cha

(297,190 posts)
20. TY, LMPV, Oliver, & Krassenstein.
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 04:07 PM
Mar 2023

I just Followed him and his Brother.

I believed they were kicked Off Twitter for awhile and I was Bummed!

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
6. I have lived in Florida under Jeb and Scott. I thought they were bad.
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 02:44 PM
Mar 2023

They didn't even come close. Jeb looks like a damn moderate in retrospect!

If it was easy to pull up stakes and relocate I would do it in a heartbeat. But life doesn't exactly work like that.

MayReasonRule

(1,461 posts)
33. Louisiana here, daughter in the same city. It's the only reason we're not in Cascadia already.
Tue Mar 7, 2023, 09:54 AM
Mar 2023

Other than I, my wife, our daughter, and her fella'... Everyone else in our families that we're aware of is bat-shit MAGA.

It's like living behind the "Iron Curtain" of the former USSR.

Deplorable depravity runs the show, we're one of 26 states run by the Nat-C Fascists.

Same Nat-C/Nazi playbook as always:

Intimidation
Incarceration
Extermination

Sickening.

IbogaProject

(2,811 posts)
8. I'd root for the same life end
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 03:00 PM
Mar 2023

If I wasn't a good person, I'd root that he end up the same way as benito. So I'll just root for him to go away or fade into obscurity.

niyad

(113,284 posts)
24. I thought about hoping an alligator would get him, but that would be animal abuse.
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 04:34 PM
Mar 2023

Maybe a tornado. They can be quite specific.

SWBTATTReg

(22,114 posts)
9. The next thing deSATAN is going to do is lock up for some screwy reason some journalists. Just
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 03:21 PM
Mar 2023

wait. I'm surprised that he hasn't sent some thugs out of state to go after Mr. Beschloss yet.

LonePirate

(13,419 posts)
13. Plenty of Floridians praise him for making the economy strong (aka making the trains run on time).
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 03:42 PM
Mar 2023

We seriously underestimate how many of our fellow citizens would be perfectly fine with someone like Mussolini taking over the country.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,956 posts)
16. Let me ask a question I asked in another thread
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 03:52 PM
Mar 2023

Outside of tourism, agriculture and retirement homes what are Florida's major industries? I'd match my home state of Washington where companies like Boeing, Microsoft, Starbucks, Amazon, Costco and Nordstrom originated with Florida any day.

I guess Hooters was started in Florida so I'll give them that one.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,367 posts)
28. Agriculture is HUGE. Florida is in the top ten of Beef Cattle producing states
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 05:23 PM
Mar 2023

It’s been said that the very first Cowboys in America worked cattle in Florida. There were cowboys in this state long before Texas.
The vast majority of the nations winter tomatoes are grown in south Florida.
The ornamental foliage and flower sector is massive as well as other plants, both greenhouse grown and outside.
Central Florida produces a massive amount of strawberries.
Florida is a major producer of Phosphates for fertilizers.
The Space Coast represents an enormous high tech industry that employs thousands.
Numerous major Air Force and Naval Air Stations as well as the Mayport Navy Base near Jacksonville.

Sure, we don’t have an auto plant (yet) or any major steel mills, but there is plenty of aviation and aerospace.

It’s a lot more than Spring Break, Bike Week, Oranges and Mickey Mouse.

mopinko

(70,090 posts)
29. i have no idea how big a part of the economy it is, but
Tue Mar 7, 2023, 12:20 AM
Mar 2023

i know that there are a ton of exotic pet breeders in fl. parrots, reptiles.
it’s a big advantage to be able to keep parrots outside. then when a hurricane goes through, you end up w a bit of an ecological disaster.

but when ppl start having trouble selling their houses, cuz they’re going under, the whole place collapses.

markodochartaigh

(1,138 posts)
19. "We seriously underestimate..."
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 04:02 PM
Mar 2023

I wish that more people understood this. About one third of voters either want authoritarian control (MAGA Republicans), or are OK with authoritarian control (corporate Republicans). And about one third of voters don't really care as long as they get their hamberders and sportsball (they don't even bother to vote). Really only a little over one third of voters nationwide have proven that they will vote to keep democracy. As in-your-face as Trump was, still about one third of voters couldn't be bothered to vote. Of course many areas and around half of the states are either strongly authoritarian or can be gerrymandered/suppressed to be authoritarian. At least nationally I think that the only solution is voter education.

GuppyGal

(1,748 posts)
14. I think dump has talked plenty about muzzling the media ..banning them etc etc etc !!
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 03:48 PM
Mar 2023

When the F is America really gonna wake up?

bluestarone

(16,926 posts)
17. My thoughts? DEATHSANTIS cannot do this alone
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 03:55 PM
Mar 2023

The WHOLE Florida legislature is FULL of these Mussolini's. CREATED from TFG'S CULT type people. Texas is the SAME way. Until something happens to these fucking CULTIST'S, it will continue to spread like covid did. EVERY rethuglicon state is starting to transform into these MONSTERS. Some how it's gotta be STOPPED. I don't care how anymore!!

Evolve Dammit

(16,725 posts)
21. It is a spreading cancer that has metastasized in some states. Legislation proposed is other states
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 04:25 PM
Mar 2023

is extreme. Anti-gay, anti-voting, anti-abortion, it's all the real "weaponization" brought to you by the Orange Chosen One and his rabid cult.

Cha

(297,190 posts)
18. Just what we've been saying
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 04:02 PM
Mar 2023

and anyone paying Attention to deSadist.

TY.. So he got his first name wrong.. lol

Kablooie

(18,632 posts)
27. That's exactly what impresses republicans.
Mon Mar 6, 2023, 05:09 PM
Mar 2023

They think they want an authoritarian who does whatever he wants. They hate anyone who compromises and they see everything in stark black and white, good or bad terms.
He is a true danger to our country but will likely be very popular.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
35. Midget Mussolini
Tue Mar 7, 2023, 11:27 AM
Mar 2023

DeSatan is acting out because he's a weak PAB trying to compensate for his small size and wimpy demeanor.

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