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Pattern Recognition -Orban, Bibi, Bolsonaro and Putin (Original Post) malaise Mar 2023 OP
Don't forget Bolsanaro SheltieLover Mar 2023 #1
Corrected malaise Mar 2023 #2
Ty! SheltieLover Mar 2023 #3
I was talking to an Israeli friend over the weekend. DFW Mar 2023 #4
Leaders who have performed badly Goonch Mar 2023 #5
Modi is an increasing problem malaise Mar 2023 #8
Not only performed badly but these men are all authoritarians peggysue2 Mar 2023 #17
Yes!!! Goddessartist Mar 2023 #6
Autocrat Frat moondust Mar 2023 #7
Perfect malaise Mar 2023 #9
Why did you leave out this no good mother fucker? Botany Mar 2023 #10
Good question malaise Mar 2023 #13
Goes back a long ways. Kid Berwyn Mar 2023 #11
Yes indeed malaise Mar 2023 #14
Pattern Recognition. Kid Berwyn Mar 2023 #16
Thanks for this malaise Mar 2023 #18
Pattern Recognition...name of very interesting book by William Gibson. I've liked all wiggs Mar 2023 #12
Rachel used it last night malaise Mar 2023 #15

DFW

(54,502 posts)
4. I was talking to an Israeli friend over the weekend.
Tue Mar 7, 2023, 06:29 AM
Mar 2023

He despises Bibi with a vehemence I have never heard from him before. I have known him for maybe 20 years. Ex-Mossad, military, vrey calm, self-assured guy. He thinks Netanyahu is runing his country before his very eyes. He has lived in Holland for a while, and is now thinking of getting his family out to join him there.

Goonch

(3,622 posts)
5. Leaders who have performed badly
Tue Mar 7, 2023, 06:36 AM
Mar 2023

Leaders who have performed badly. Top Row: Donald Trump, Jair Bolsonaro, Benjamin Netanyahu and Narendra Modi. Bottom Row: Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, Rodrigo Duterte, Xi Jinping, Vladimir Putin, Viktor Orbán.

peggysue2

(10,849 posts)
17. Not only performed badly but these men are all authoritarians
Tue Mar 7, 2023, 12:13 PM
Mar 2023

Authoritarians are not good in a crisis, natural or those of their own doing. The strongman persona requires control in all situations.

Erdogan had no control over the series of earthquakes in Turkey made worse by his cozy (corrupt) deals with building contractors and inspectors.

Putin has had no control over the poor performance of his military, the materiel and training for which was gutted by his own corruption and that of his inner circle.

Netanyahu is attempting to gut his own judiciary to protect himself and his own corrupt dealings. It'll be interesting to see how he reacts to the growing protest in Israel. I suspect badly.

Trump, of course, completely mismanaged the Covid crisis, worried more about his own political future than the plight/health of American citizens.

It goes on and on because strongmen, authoritarians, fascists care only about their illusionary projection of strength and infallibility.

Only I can fix it.

That's the standard mantra that proves false again and again and again. Corruption, lies and strong-arm tactics are a feature, not a bug.

And yes, the movement is here. Republicans and their donors support the transformation of our Constitutional democracy into a viper's nest of corrupt politicians, moneymen and hangers-on.

They love Putin, the Butcher of Moscow. Think about that, then think about your kids, your grand babies, everyone you know and love.

They're all at risk.

Kid Berwyn

(15,050 posts)
16. Pattern Recognition.
Tue Mar 7, 2023, 11:48 AM
Mar 2023

Abraham Bolden saw it and reported the Secret Service didn't like African Americans — or President Kennedy — in 1963.

Former U.S. Secret Service Agent Abraham BOLDEN was the first African American Secret Service agent to serve in the White House, personally appointed and literally hand-picked by President John F. Kennedy to the White House detail. Agent Abraham Bolden reported overt racism by his fellow agents and outright hostility toward the "n------loving president," quoting fellow Secret Service agents on the JFK detail.

In addition to enduring all manner of personal indignities, he was concerned at the lack of professionalism in those assigned to protect the president and reported his concerns. He was told, "OK. Thanks" by his superiors. When the problems weren't addressed, Bolden requested transfer back to the Secret Service office in Chicago.



President Biden recently pardoned Abraham Bolden



The story of a man who told the truth:



After 45 Years, a Civil Rights Hero Waits for Justice

Thom Hartmann
June 12, 2009 11:52 AM

A great miscarriage of justice has kept most Americas from learning about a Civil Rights pioneer who worked with President John F. Kennedy. But there is finally a way for citizens to not only right that wrong, but bring closure to the most tragic chapter of American presidential history.

After an outstanding career in law enforcement, Abraham Bolden was appointed by JFK to be the first African American presidential Secret Service agent, where he served with distinction. He was part of the Secret Service effort that prevented JFK's assassination in Chicago, three weeks before Dallas. But Bolden was framed by the Mafia and arrested on the very day he went to Washington to tell the Warren Commission staff about the Chicago attempt against JFK.

Bolden was sentenced to six years in prison, despite glaring problems with his prosecution. His arrest resulted from accusations by two criminals Bolden had sent to prison. In Bolden's first trial, an apparently biased judge told the jury that Bolden was guilty, even before they began their deliberations. Though granted a new trial because of that, the same problematic judge was assigned to oversee Bolden's second trial, which resulted in his conviction. Later, the main witness against Bolden admitted committing perjury against him. A key member of the prosecution even took the fifth when asked about the perjury. Yet Bolden's appeals were denied, and he had to serve hard time in prison, and today is considered a convicted felon.

After the release of four million pages of JFK assassination files in the 1990s, it became clear that Bolden -- and the official secrecy surrounding the Chicago attempt against JFK -- were due to National Security concerns about Cuba, that were unknown to Bolden, the press, Congress, and the public not just in 1963, but for the next four decades.

SNIP...

Abraham Bolden paid a heavy price for trying to tell the truth about events involving the man he was sworn to protect -- JFK -- that became mired in National Security concerns. Bolden still lives in Chicago, and has never given up trying to clear his name.

Will Abraham Bolden live to finally see the justice so long denied to him?

CONTINUED...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thom-hartmann/after-45-years-a-civil-ri_b_213834.html



After the assassination, he went to Washington on his own dime and reported what he saw to the Warren Commission. For his trouble -- and despite an exemplary record as a Brinks detective, Illinois State Trooper, and Secret Service agent -- Bolden was framed by the government using a paid informant's admitted perjury and spent a long time in prison. The government also drugged him and put him into psychiatric hospitals. His real crime was telling the truth.

Americans know the Truth: the country hasn't been the same since Nov. 22, 1963. President Kennedy kept the nation out of Vietnam and started toward the moon. Imagine what the New Frontier could have become for us today? Certainly would not be a time where "money trumps peace."

wiggs

(7,820 posts)
12. Pattern Recognition...name of very interesting book by William Gibson. I've liked all
Tue Mar 7, 2023, 11:24 AM
Mar 2023

of his books that I've read so far, and just finished the prescient Count Zero in which AI, religion, oligarchical future, and art are intertwined.

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