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Stinky The Clown

(67,818 posts)
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 11:08 AM Mar 2023

Question about former Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko

He has been making the rounds on US media over the last few weeks, sounding very pro UKR and pro US. Maybe he is running for re-election? Maybe he is simply as he seems, a UKR patriot. He visits various hot spots. He was in Bakhmut as recently as 10 days ago.

Why do I have this nagging sense that he lost to Zelenskyy because he was seen as too pro Russian, or something similar?

Am I misremembering?

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Question about former Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Mar 2023 OP
His problem was that he didn't address endemic corruption enough. haele Mar 2023 #1
Thanks for that Stinky The Clown Mar 2023 #3
He Was Anti-Russia And Pro-Snout-In-The-Trough, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2023 #2
Thank you, Sir. Stinky The Clown Mar 2023 #5
He was actually considered by some to be more pro-Ukrainian and West than Zelensky Tommy Carcetti Mar 2023 #4
Thanks for that! Very helpful and informative. Stinky The Clown Mar 2023 #6
Whatever his shortcomings as president, he's been outwardly very sound and supportive Emrys Mar 2023 #7

haele

(12,676 posts)
1. His problem was that he didn't address endemic corruption enough.
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 11:22 AM
Mar 2023

He was a Michael Bloomberg type of leader, wasn't bad, but he couldn't quite move Ukraine forward out of the "big man" style of doing business because he, himself, was part of the oligarch class as the owner of a popular Ukrainian chocolate company.

Haele

The Magistrate

(95,255 posts)
2. He Was Anti-Russia And Pro-Snout-In-The-Trough, Sir
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 11:44 AM
Mar 2023

Probably hasn't learnt his lesson about the latter, but does still have some following.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,198 posts)
4. He was actually considered by some to be more pro-Ukrainian and West than Zelensky
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 11:57 AM
Mar 2023

At least that was the feeling in the more Ukrainian-centric west part of the country, where there was some skepticism about Zelensky when he was elected.

You're probably confusing him with Yanukovych, who was the previous president, heavily corrupt and pro-Russian, and who the Ukrainian people protested during Maidan; he ended up leaving the country for Russia after his efforts to violently crack down on the protests failed.

Poroshenko was democratically elected, served one term, lost but basically graciously accepted defeat and stepped aside with no issues. Like Yanukovych, he was an oligarch (owned a chocolate company), probably had some mild corruption here and there but nothing extraordinary like Yanukovych.

According to my relatives, they were glad that Poroshenko improved the roads around where they lived, which had fallen into disrepair under Yanukovych. They were rather hesitant about Zelensky when he was first elected and worried he would be too weak, but he has happily proven us wrong in that department.

Stinky The Clown

(67,818 posts)
6. Thanks for that! Very helpful and informative.
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 12:42 PM
Mar 2023

You could be right about me confusing his with Yanukovych. Back then, to be honest, I was not paying close attention to Ukraine.

Emrys

(7,257 posts)
7. Whatever his shortcomings as president, he's been outwardly very sound and supportive
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 05:50 PM
Mar 2023

of the current government during the war.

Quite likely he's an old-fashioned patriot, but other than defecting to obscurity, or worse, useful idiocy in Russia, what else could he have done if he wanted to keep up - and use positively as it's turned out - his public profile?

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