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86% of Fentanyl convictions at the border have been US citizens. Not foreign nationals. (Original Post) kpete Mar 2023 OP
K&R for visibility. crickets Mar 2023 #1
What is the point? former9thward Mar 2023 #2
China. OilemFirchen Mar 2023 #3
My point is who cares what the nationality is of convictions? former9thward Mar 2023 #6
Imagine that. 2naSalit Mar 2023 #4
It's not a terribly informative assertion. Igel Mar 2023 #5
Well that blows up the republican argument. Emile Mar 2023 #7

former9thward

(32,003 posts)
6. My point is who cares what the nationality is of convictions?
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 09:10 PM
Mar 2023

It is where the shit is coming from is what rational people should be concerned about.

Most of it is coming from Mexico.

According to the DEA, most of the fentanyl is smuggled over land across the U.S.-Mexico border. Smaller amounts are smuggled by air from China.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fentanyl-seizures-rise-u-s-mexico-border-heres-why/

Igel

(35,300 posts)
5. It's not a terribly informative assertion.
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 08:02 PM
Mar 2023

If you're a foreign national, you have fewer protections. If you're in a vehicle, you're more likely to be stopped. Better to hire an American.

There's also the question as to whether the mules were caught. Get stopped, run back across the border, and if you're a Mexican national good luck being caught by the US Feds. Or the Mexican Feds. Who's left to be convicted? Nobody. Because it's convictions number of smugglers, that's at issue.

Then there's the question of what "conviction" means when it comes to quantity. X, Y, and Z are convicted of 1/2 oz each, W is convicted of 20 lbs. If there's an nationality skew there we wouldn't know it.

Then there's knowledge. If I head to Mexico and decide to score a wad of dough by smuggling, I'm not going to know backchannels. There's a lot of Sonora there, can't be that hard to build a spudlauncher that would hurl canisters of fentanyl over the wall, etc.

Not saying I know the truth--nobody's interested in the truth, just in showing their faith in their own views of justice are the true faith. I am saying that the claim is open to a lot of critiquing and, IMHO, can't be used in the way that's intended, as a cudgel.

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