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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI think I cracked the code on why De Santis and other Repub governors are dropping
out of the voting safety system that can expose voters who are voting in two or more states.
First let me point out that this system was originally approved by the usual conservative groups. Also, the FL Dept of State Office of Election Crimes and Security claimed that it helped identify HUNDREDS of voters who appeared to have voted in Florida and in another ERIC state. So why is De Santis deciding to opt out?
As usual, the explanation is sketchy when it comes to getting an answer from De Santis on why he is opposed to it. The two things that I heard are that he wants to protect voter information, and doesn't want it used for partisan purposes. This is why I find that sketchy: Way back in the nineties when I tried to help a P.A.C. group I learned that you had to be a member of a political organization in order to get sheets of information that list everyone's names, address and political information. Members of these organizations use it to do things like, go door to door to get signatures for petitions.
This is how it was back then, and this is how it probably is today. Information is available FOR political reasons. It's a given. So why is De Santis and other Republicans balking about what ERIC can expose?
My guess is, that when conservatives herald the idea of ERIC, they were expecting to find a lot of Democratic offenders. And, instead, what they uncovered was a large swath of determined and unethical Republican voting fraudsters. This would further erode the reputation of the Republican party, in general, since it's obvious that, by everything we've seen, they are a party of cheaters. And the results would show this difference quite effectively, which can and SHOULD be exploited by the Democratic party.
That's my take.
3 more Republican states announce they're leaving a key voting data partnership
The Electronic Registration Information Center, or ERIC, is a multi-state partnership that experts across the political spectrum say is the only reliable, secure way for states to share voter registration data with each other.
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Just weeks ago, a January report from the Florida Department of State Office of Election Crimes and Security said it had "used data provided by ERIC to identify" hundreds of voters who appeared to have voted in Florida and in another ERIC member state in the same election.
https://www.npr.org/2023/03/06/1161374479/electronic-registration-information-center-eric-florida-missouri-west-virginia?fbclid=IwAR0EoYbBU6InWLp3YKToGJgmTPg0onRekETXTa1ZoRtQ3ptIR7jrdKzdNkc
Diamond_Dog
(32,108 posts)The truth hurts.
Irish_Dem
(47,495 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)mac56
(17,574 posts)Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)My dumb ass Republican state, Missouri, opted out last week.
My husband and I call it gotta keep the feds from finding out.
I think thats why Ohio governor tried to keep the feds from going to the train accidents.
TheRealNorth
(9,500 posts)Republicans are gearing up to blatantly cheat in 2024.
Applan
(693 posts)Whenever I hear claims of people voting multiple times and dead people voting, it always seems to be implied that it is Democrats doing the cheating. I'm certain that the majority of those votes are from Republicans but the party is rarely mentioned.
Baitball Blogger
(46,765 posts)So, yes. I think it IS a Republican problem, and this is one of the issues where the Democrats should investigate and go on the offensive, to stop Republicans in their tracks before they continue that false meme about Democrats.
live love laugh
(13,149 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,765 posts)the votes that Biden got.
live love laugh
(13,149 posts)yonder
(9,679 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,478 posts)James48
(4,443 posts)Is actually an admission of criminal guilt.
Go look at ANY Republican talking point, and you will reveal a pattern of republicans doing exactly that criminal behavior.
markodochartaigh
(1,156 posts)"when conservatives herald the idea of ERIC, they were expecting to find a lot of Democratic offenders. And, instead, what they uncovered was a large swath of determined and unethical Republican voting fraudsters."
There have been an insignificant number of voters who actually voted fraudulently. I don't think that anyone who makes it to the office of governor actually believed that many fraudulent votes would be found. I don't think that most upper echelon Republicans drank their own kool-aid from this batch.
But the Republican leaders a) know that when they mislead their base, their base will never find their way back to the truth, and b) the leaders of the far right, which the Republicans have allowed to lead their party, find it useful to discredit US elections. This discrediting of elections seems to me to be a wedge that Democrats could drive into the Republican party. Far-right Republicans have gone far further than the usual gerrymandering, suppression, and disenfranchisement into actual tampering with elections. Also, there has been a public display of very high ranking Republicans who are refusing to question the validity of US elections.
SledDriver
(2,059 posts)czarjak
(11,298 posts)Any means necessary. Just win. They mean it.
bluedigger
(17,087 posts)It was all I could do to keep a straight face, as we were in formation, and he was serious. ☺
hay rick
(7,648 posts)One is it flags voters who are registered in more than one state and the other is providing lists of unregistered voters to the state so that they can send them a voter registration information postcard.
I believe the current exodus of red states from ERIC is driven almost entirely by a recent iteration of the Soros conspiracy theory. Soros' Open Society Foundation has supported the Pew Charitable Trust, which in turn was involved in founding ERIC.
Bob's your uncle.
Baitball Blogger
(46,765 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)A link to this NPR article is in the OP article. It doesn't actually mention Soros, but of course.... I'm sure it would inevitably be targeted.
Other Republican election officials told NPR the far-right misinformation campaign is reverberating in their states, too. "We have had a number of emails from some very ill-informed, uninformed or uneducated people," said Alabama Secretary of State John Merrill, a Republican. ...
So why is this system being targeted then? Becker ... says it's because election deniers don't actually want voting to be more secure or efficient. ... They only care that their side wins. ...
Amusingly, the Gateway Pundit is pushing another that Soros endorses DeSantis for president. Maybe we'll get to see a crowd of MAGAs chase him into an elevator.
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)In a handful of "battleground" states where Republicans controlled the elections, the number of voters stricken from the rolls using Crosscheck were up to 30 times Trump's victory margin. Which prompted everything from bad press to lawsuits. I'm guessing that tool has played out its usefulness as a cheat for the GOP.
lindysalsagal
(20,745 posts)dlk
(11,578 posts)This doesnt fit Republicans chosen narrative so better to forfeit voting safety and integrity, and democracy dies dies a little more.
Lonestarblue
(10,101 posts)manipulate voter registrations as easily as if they had their own system. We know that Republicans cheat, and theyve been looking for ways to not register Democratic voters for years, as in Chris Kobachs terrible ID check system that got voters with the same name kicked off voting rolls in several states. I suspect some data company is designing a system to enable Republican states to target specific voters, forcing them to cast provisional ballots, for example, that are never then counted on the suspicion of fraud. My brain is not Machiavellian enough to think of all the ways Republicans might use a system geared solely to electing themselves..