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Doodley

(9,088 posts)
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 01:04 PM Mar 2023

Is this the start of the end of Fox News?

At some point, Dominion will win its lawsuit, leaving Fox News humiliated.
At some point, Carlson, Hannity and all the scum will have to go.
At some point, Fox News will have to admit to its viewers that it lied.
And in doing so, Fox News will have to part ways with Trump.

Am I being naive to think all of this will happen?
If it does happen, what will happen to Fox News afterwards?
Is this the end of Fox News as we know it?

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Is this the start of the end of Fox News? (Original Post) Doodley Mar 2023 OP
Fox should have died 20 years ago. Meadowoak Mar 2023 #1
I doubt it. As long as their MAGAt audience keeps watching they will survive. Ocelot II Mar 2023 #2
It is a Propaganda Channel maxsolomon Mar 2023 #3
Fox is the worst. The sooner they go away the better! Initech Mar 2023 #4
Hope springs eternal ... lpbk2713 Mar 2023 #5
It's not going away - it has the most cable viewers. womanofthehills Mar 2023 #6
More ppl get their news from fux because it's a bundled package you cannot opt out of PortTack Mar 2023 #19
What Will Really Doom Fox News Is If They Lose Their Audience..... global1 Mar 2023 #7
Thank you for your detailed reply. I agree. And linked to that is that Fox News Doodley Mar 2023 #13
Judges don't impose "mea culpa" admissions on defendants in defamation cases. onenote Mar 2023 #18
Keep rolling it forward, Doodley. Kid Berwyn Mar 2023 #8
Murdoch will pay the fine - still be disgustingly rich and... lame54 Mar 2023 #9
hope so republianmushroom Mar 2023 #10
i wish the cable co's would get smart and make it a premium channel. mopinko Mar 2023 #11
Fox would never agree to Fox News being carried on an optional tier. onenote Mar 2023 #16
I'd Love to See NowISeetheLight Mar 2023 #12
Thank you. This is a landmark case, on a scale not seen before. It is so huge that barely Doodley Mar 2023 #15
How About This NowISeetheLight Mar 2023 #17
And we write their confession speech! Doodley Mar 2023 #21
No! There is a market for their lies. There will always be some Pillow Guy paying to advertise. keithbvadu2 Mar 2023 #14
As long as they remain 2x MSNBC and 3x CNN, they'll stay on the air. TheProle Mar 2023 #20
not until the viewers die pstokely Mar 2023 #22
Of course not. 🥴 nt Raine Mar 2023 #23
Even a full 1.5 B judgement would be little more than an annoyance to them Takket Mar 2023 #24

maxsolomon

(33,338 posts)
3. It is a Propaganda Channel
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 01:07 PM
Mar 2023

Why would it stop?

Like it did with O'Reilly, it will pay the judgment and keep going.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
5. Hope springs eternal ...
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 01:17 PM
Mar 2023


But when Faux is gone the mindless mouth breathers will demand a replacement.

womanofthehills

(8,703 posts)
6. It's not going away - it has the most cable viewers.
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 01:24 PM
Mar 2023

And cable viewers are declining anyway as more people get their news on the internet.

PortTack

(32,765 posts)
19. More ppl get their news from fux because it's a bundled package you cannot opt out of
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 03:15 PM
Mar 2023

Fux is part of the lowest tier package where msnbc and cnn are not

global1

(25,246 posts)
7. What Will Really Doom Fox News Is If They Lose Their Audience.....
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 01:30 PM
Mar 2023

Fox has done quite a bit of damage themselves to get the ball on that to start moving along - BUT - I think there is something else that can be done to help that along.

1. The judge in the Dominion lawsuit - when Dominion wins - needs to make Fox broadcast to their audience that they were deceiving their audience. That they were lying. The election was fair and Biden won. There was no steal to stop and that they had guests on their shows were lying and that Fox knew it when they let them appear. Dominion machines functioned correctly and that they were sorry that they said otherwise - and that going forward - there will be no more lying - just reporting the news factually.

2. An outside party from this lawsuit needs to publish in newspapers and in broadcast commercials a statement that Fox thought so little of its audience that they took them for suckers and rubes and lied and deceived them on purpose and for financial benefit. Bottom line - let their audience know that they took advantage of them because they were using them for political advantage and propaganda/brainwashing purposes. They were indoctrinating them into a political cult. [Note: I'm not sure how exactly this statement should be worded - but I'm sure that there are people out there that can draft such a statement that could make that point.].

Those two things - I believe will put a nail in Fox News's coffin.

Bottom line - people don't like to be made fools of and when the Fox audience gets some sense knocked into them that they were made fools of - that will be Fox's death knell.

Doodley

(9,088 posts)
13. Thank you for your detailed reply. I agree. And linked to that is that Fox News
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 02:12 PM
Mar 2023

spread Trump's lies. Trump and Fox News made fools of millions of people who felt they were the smart ones with the "special" information that "stupid liberals" don't know about. How will they feel when Fox admits it was all a lie? That special information was all a lie. Trump is the ultimate grievance candidate. Take away all his grievances and there's nothing left. If Fox say this grievance about the election was a lie, they will be damaged. Again, thanks for a great reply.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
18. Judges don't impose "mea culpa" admissions on defendants in defamation cases.
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 02:38 PM
Mar 2023

Parties may agree to a public admission/apology as part of an out of court settlement, but even if Fox is found to have defamed Dominion, the remedy will be an award of compensatory and, possibly, punitive damages. But the decision will stand on its own.

lame54

(35,287 posts)
9. Murdoch will pay the fine - still be disgustingly rich and...
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 01:35 PM
Mar 2023

Fox will continue to pollute the national discourse

Heads may roll if Dominion insists as part of the settlement

Many lying assholes waiting in the wings

mopinko

(70,100 posts)
11. i wish the cable co's would get smart and make it a premium channel.
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 01:53 PM
Mar 2023

i know in some markets fox in basic, but msnbc is a premium channel. willing to bet if they had to pay extra, they wouldnt.

i have no doubt the settlement will include making the truth clear to their viewers.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
16. Fox would never agree to Fox News being carried on an optional tier.
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 02:35 PM
Mar 2023

Fox News is bundled with other Fox-owned properties, including its owned and operated broadcast channels, Fox Business, and Fox Sports channels. It has the leverage to demand basic tier carriage.

NowISeetheLight

(3,943 posts)
12. I'd Love to See
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 02:02 PM
Mar 2023

As part of any settlement or verdict, Faux News has to publically air “confession” commercials for a six month period multiple times daily. Tie it to the settlement. So say they find $1.6b for Dominion. They also have to publically admit, on their network, what they did. It would be even better if Hannity and Carlson and Ingram and the rest had to do it. I’m probably dreaming but I’d sure like to see it.

Doodley

(9,088 posts)
15. Thank you. This is a landmark case, on a scale not seen before. It is so huge that barely
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 02:19 PM
Mar 2023

a Republican in the land won't know that Fox News admitted to court that they duped their viewers. I agree confession videos would be a good outcome!

It also opens the floodgates for all the workers, election officials, police, lawmakers, etc., that have been libeled by Fox News.

NowISeetheLight

(3,943 posts)
17. How About This
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 02:35 PM
Mar 2023

$20b in punitive damages…. Reduced to $3b if they confess. I’m sure their shareholders would have an idea of which way to go.

Takket

(21,565 posts)
24. Even a full 1.5 B judgement would be little more than an annoyance to them
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 01:07 AM
Mar 2023

The only thing that would ever stop faux is a “musk and twitter” type takeover by benevolent lefties that buy faux and turn it into the hottest blondes you can find reading pro Democrat pieces. If you make the change gradually all the MAGAts will become Democrats without even realizing it lol

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