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gab13by13

(21,323 posts)
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 02:09 PM Mar 2023

Is DOJ Going To Investigate Theft of Voting Machine Software

The DOJ hasn't made clear if it intends to investigate reported breaches where Trump allies allegedly copied sensitive information and software – and election experts are concerned the stolen data might be used to interfere with next year's presidential election, reported the Los Angeles Times.

“We’re never going to know what the overall plan here was,” said Susan Greenhalgh, senior advisor on election security for the nonprofit Free Speech For People. “Don’t we need to know that? We don’t know what this was all about, and it’s dangerous to guess or assume that, ‘Oh well, because President [Joe] Biden was inaugurated on [Jan. 20], this no longer poses a threat.’”

https://www.rawstory.com/voting-machine-software/

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Is DOJ Going To Investigate Theft of Voting Machine Software (Original Post) gab13by13 Mar 2023 OP
ethic and integrity ? republianmushroom Mar 2023 #1
I'm sure it's one of the many investigations zipped-lip Garland is managing. CrispyQ Mar 2023 #2
I sure fucking hope so the DOJ is investigating TheRealNorth Mar 2023 #4
Not just private entities, gab13by13 Mar 2023 #6
If the FBI pursued this with same vigor they went after the Leftists of the 60's and 70's GreenWave Mar 2023 #3
To be fair... TheRealNorth Mar 2023 #5
Apparently, Susan Greenhalgh already got her answer, Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #7
The answer was that the FBI won't investigate gab13by13 Mar 2023 #8
Yep. Unless local investigators ask them to. Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #9
LA Times article Nevilledog Mar 2023 #10
That's what I thought, gab13by13 Mar 2023 #11
Seems like that would be a state investigation, at least initially Fiendish Thingy Mar 2023 #12

CrispyQ

(36,461 posts)
2. I'm sure it's one of the many investigations zipped-lip Garland is managing.
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 02:23 PM
Mar 2023

In the meantime, how many Cyber Ninja challenges will there be next election? Private entities granted access to our ballots & voting machines.

gab13by13

(21,323 posts)
6. Not just private entities,
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 02:37 PM
Mar 2023

a pro-Trump bogus company that had a mailbox for an office. Garland only wrote a stern letter. It was 2 citizen's groups that filed a FOIA request for Cyber Ninja documents and a judge agreed that the Cyber Ninjas needed to produce the documents, which they never did so the judge fined them 25 or 50k per day until they produced the documents. They never produced the documents nor paid the fine because they were a bogus company that was allowed access to sealed ballot boxes that were by law to have remained sealed for 22 weeks. Title 52.

GreenWave

(6,736 posts)
3. If the FBI pursued this with same vigor they went after the Leftists of the 60's and 70's
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 02:27 PM
Mar 2023

they would have already infiltrated the rightie tighties and would be able to proceed with great vigor.

TheRealNorth

(9,478 posts)
5. To be fair...
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 02:34 PM
Mar 2023

They probably have to be extra careful with the investigations when you have treasonous MAGATS within your ranks.

But, in general, I agree with the sentiment of your statement.

Beastly Boy

(9,323 posts)
7. Apparently, Susan Greenhalgh already got her answer,
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 03:04 PM
Mar 2023

which your source failed to cite. You can get it too:
https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/e9/e6/ea3d9e304bcab45193ac01a8f56e/greenhalgh-outgoing-for-e-mail-1.pdf

And an answer that your source did cite:

The FBI may not be certain whether copying that information is a violation of federal law, according to a former DOJ trial attorney in the civil rights division.

“You don’t want to bring a criminal case where your case is that ‘arguably’ the law applies,” said former DOJ attorney David Becker, now executive director and founder of the Center for Election Innovation & Research. “You want to get a conviction, especially in a case like this. If I were a prosecutor in a case involving this kind of election denial, I want to be damn sure I’m gonna get a conviction, because an acquittal might be used to further the disinformation machine.”

gab13by13

(21,323 posts)
8. The answer was that the FBI won't investigate
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 03:18 PM
Mar 2023

until it gets a request from local law enforcement. Thanks for the update. If local law enforcement was complicit I doubt that the FBI is going to get a call.

Good job digging this up.

Beastly Boy

(9,323 posts)
9. Yep. Unless local investigators ask them to.
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 03:48 PM
Mar 2023

These are the rules. And FBI rarely breaks rules at the request of public advocates.

gab13by13

(21,323 posts)
11. That's what I thought,
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 03:58 PM
Mar 2023

the FBI doesn't need an invitation when federal laws also apply. Someone needs to take a hard look at the FBI starting with Christopher Wray. The House's investigation of the FBI is pure projection/gaslighting.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,601 posts)
12. Seems like that would be a state investigation, at least initially
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 04:12 PM
Mar 2023

I’m thinking of AZ in particular.

If there was a coordinated conspiracy to steal or alter voting software across state lines, then it would become a federal case. We know that was the case with the fraudulent electors, but I’m not sure in regards to software- I’m most familiar with the events in AZ and, I think, WI, which, IIRC, were committed by unrelated persons/groups.

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