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Wasn't he lying because he was being paid by Tr**p to lie and he was just doing his job?
Didn't Tr**p pay him to lie? Isn't Tr**p the liar here?
lame54
(35,343 posts)Then the few who snap out of it are forever marked as untrustworthy
NowsTheTime
(723 posts)This is so f........ ignorant!
former9thward
(32,120 posts)Cohen was convicted of lying to Congress. (He was charged and convicted on two lies, there were several other known lies that they did not charge him with). He stated Trump told him to lie. Mueller said that was not accurate (a legal way of saying it was another lie). Also even if Trump had told him to lie -- so what? If a client tells you to jump off a cliff do you do it? Not surprising Cohen was immediately disbarred.
Muellers office disputes BuzzFeed report that Trump directed Michael Cohen to lie to Congress
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/18/politics/mueller-statement-buzzfeed/index.html
If there is ever an indictment of Trump you will never see Cohen testifying. He would be ripped to shreds on the stand.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)But I do know I wouldn't put a bet on that. Pretty much EVERYONE around Trump is a liar. So who WOULD be credible? Kushner, Meadows, Flynn, Baby Trump, Ivanka, Rudy, Barr, hell, Trumps own attorneys. The list is damn near endless.
And no, he wasn't convicted of lying to congress. He was convicted by SDNY of Tax Evasion, Making False Statements to a bank, Causing an unlawful corporate contribution and making an excessive campaign contribution. Did he plead guilty to lying to the senate select committee, during his NY trial, yes. But that's not what got him convicted.
former9thward
(32,120 posts)Conviction for perjury in congressional testimony
On November 29, 2018, Cohen pleaded guilty to lying to the Senate Intelligence Committee and House Intelligence Committee in 2017 regarding the proposed Trump Tower Moscow deal that he spearheaded in 2015 and 2016. Cohen had told Congress that the deal ceased in January 2016 when it actually ended in June 2016, and that he had not received a response about the deal from the office of a senior Russian official when he actually had. Cohen said that he had given the false testimony in order to be consistent with Trump's "repeated disavowals of commercial and political ties between himself and Russia" and out of loyalty to Trump. Cohen received a two-month sentence, to be served concurrently with his three-year sentence for tax fraud, for the false testimony.
This charge was brought directly by Robert Mueller's investigation, rather than the United States Attorney for the SDNY, who brought the previous charges against Cohen. In a sentencing memorandum filed the following day, Cohen's attorneys stated he kept Trump "apprised" of the "substantive conversation" Cohen had in January 2016 with a Russian official, and discussed with Trump traveling to Russia to advance the project during the summer of 2016. The filing also stated Cohen "remained in close and regular contact with White House-based staff and legal counsel" as he prepared to provide false testimony to Congress.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Cohen_(lawyer)
dem4decades
(11,315 posts)former9thward
(32,120 posts)Or convict them of anything else.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)That is EXACTLY what the courts do ALL the time. Ever heard the word snitch? How about CI? You think those are pillars of the community? Hell prosecutors regularly use inmates as witnesses.
former9thward
(32,120 posts)It has not been my experience. Prosecutors use them to get information which will allow them to prosecute someone but rarely are they put on the stand. Exception being violent crimes within the prison system itself.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)Believe what you will.
triron
(22,028 posts)former9thward
(32,120 posts)The only thing i handle is criminal defense.
dem4decades
(11,315 posts)government witness. Do you think that Michael Cohen is a less credible witness than Sammy The Bull?
triron
(22,028 posts)Unfortunately a witnesses past can reduce their credibility.