'Obnoxious and nasty' DeSantis isn't winning voters outside GOP base

[winetourdriver01]

MSNBC's Donny Deutsch believes Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis won't look as appealing to voters as some Republicans think.

The Florida Republican is widely seen as Donald Trump's strongest challenger for the GOP nomination, but the "Morning Joe" contributor said his personality flaws are just too glaring to win over voters outside the conservative base.

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https://www.rawstory.com/ron-desantis-personality/

[ananda]

1. So Trump is less flawed?

Words fail.

[Wounded Bear]

4. Indeed! nt

[winetourdriver01]

7. flawed

Ok, it's obvious to anyone w/a brain that they are both dangerous maniacs of the first order. The ONLY chance the republicans have in future election cycles is if Trump drops dead. Something they are fervently hoping for.

DeFascist has no appeal outside their rabid mouth breathing base, so on a national level, he is going nowhere fast.

Personally I'm waiting for the republican party to devolve to rump status national as it has done here in California.

[Kaleva]

11. The rapid, mouth breathing base supports tfg

So where is Desantis support coming from?

[Lonestarblue]

29. I would not broader discount support for DeSantis.

In Florida, one of his biggest support groups is Moms for Liberty. They claimed to be just a small grass-roots organization, but they seem to have some serious money behind them as they’ve spread across the country. They have claimed to have 195 chapters in 37 states and nearly 100,000 members.

Their vehicle for stirring up anger and hatred of minorities is parental rights—correctly interpreted as rights for white parents to censor school curricula with no rights for other parents. It is little more than a white supremacy group with homophobia thrown in.

They have some serious GOP cash behind them. The link below is to an interesting article that describes their founders a their tactics for harassing local school boards and teachers.

https://www.mediamatters.org/critical-race-theory/unmasking-moms-liberty

[Caliman73]

26. No. But to many, Trump has more charisma.

I always throw up a bit in my mouth when I have to point out that distinction, but I think it is accurate.

As much as I completely detest Trump and see no charisma there, when you put yourself in the shoes of the average Conservative voter today, you can't really argue that Trump has no charisma to them.

As stated in the article, DeSantis has the same cruel streak that Trump has, but he is more whiny and prickly. He comes off more as a closeted wife beater then the "thug/gangsta" that Trump portrays.

I think both Trump and DeSantis are "coward bullies". They are both very thin skinned and cannot take what they dish out. However, Trump has the WWE persona. He is the "lovable heel" that you may recognize if you ever watched Wrestling when you were a kid. I mean, the guy even came out and DID WWE crap. DeSantis cannot sell that image. He is popular in a state that is pretty much under the control of the GOP with a very weak Democratic Party. He got laughed out of California and New York though, where Trump at least drew crowds.

Trump isn't less flawed, but he is more viable in more places than DeSantis is, at least for now. Getting indicted will undoubtedly take more of the shine off. People may end up going with DeSantis if Trump is charged and actually convicted of the crimes he committed, but they will not be very enthusiastic about DeSantis. He does not have the reach of Trump.

[Kaleva]

2. All that matters to DeSantis now is winning a minority of the base

[Wingus Dingus]

3. They've got to be kidding.

Oops, "outside the base". I should read better.

[Achilleaze]

5. "Tiny D is obnoxious and nasty." Everyone is saying.

Everyone. He is recognized as republican "values" incarnate.

[MontanaMama]

6. Well since the rethug base is also

obnoxious and nasty…this isn’t surprising.

[Buns_of_Fire]

8. Add a little boilerplate to "obnoxious and nasty" and

they'll have prewritten obituaries for most of today's GQP politicians.

[fightforfreedom]

9. There is a reason I call Desantis, Desantis the Dork.

He is a dork. I don't know what the people in Florida see in that asshole. It won't work on the national stage.

[Kaleva]

12. He was well received in Iowa

[Walleye]

13. Yep. Governor Dork

[BeyondGeography]

10. DeSantis will need a raft of indictments to beat Trump

Trump is needy and, if you’re warped, entertaining. Like it or not, his crowd finds him amusing. The next ad-libbed joke DeSantis cracks will be the first of his life.

Also, whereas Trump feeds off the crowd DeSantis is a cold fish who gives the impression of preferring to be anywhere else than talking to those same rubes.

[Samrob]

14. Really, many American's have a love affair with crime and corruption.

They just don't like it when POC commit crime.

Think who the heroes are or were: Al Capone, Billy the Kid, Jesse James, all things mafia, the Bundys, Jim and Tammy, Trump, Nixon,
the Watergate plumbers. Americans especially love crimes against their own government for good or evil, right or left. Now their love affair with tyrants is showing through.

[Caliman73]

27. They just don't like POC...period.

I agree with what you said. There is definitely a fascination with "the outlaw", if that outlaw is White. They "buck the system" and "win one for the little guy", when in reality, they also kill a bunch of "little guys" and exploit the rest.

Republicans/Conservatives say they are about "law and order" but that only applies to POC and "degenerates".

[EYESORE 9001]

15. Obnoxious and nasty, huh?

How’d that work out in 2016? Sounds like they got themselves a candidate!

[Kaleva]

16. In 2016, many here conned themselves into believing TFG was too nasty

[EYESORE 9001]

17. I'll never make that mistake again

They love nasty. It’s so affirming for them to see this strutting ass bloviating to the tune of their own hatred and sense of grievance.

[hay rick]

18. Despite his kkkoozies, he's not somebody you would want to have a beer with. nt

[jcgoldie]

19. "Trump light"

...is really just Trump without 6 inches of height and anything that passes for charisma.

[CrispyQ]

20. Trump knows how to work a crowd.

DeSantis is a bore. Yeah, he says all the right shit, but that's not the same as working a crowd. Trump has some other advantages, as well. For one, out of shape as he is, DeSantis is a weird looking guy & also not the most fit. Personally, I always think of Rumpelstiltskin when I see him.

[tanyev]

28. And Trump was a TV celebrity before he ran for office.

For some, that in itself is persuasive.

[CrispyQ]

30. IMO, he would never have won the repub nomination without The Apprentice.

Too many fell for the successful, tough-guy businessman. Oh, & let's run government like a business. I wish we could crush that line of thinking.

[judesedit]

21. I loved the quote by I don't remember who, that said,

"DeSantis will turn off your life support to charge his cell phone". Perfectly said, and I don't doubt it would happen if no one is looking.

Thank you, letmypeoplevote. I love that. I was close.

[republianmushroom]

22. DeSantis is as big an A-O as trump.

the base is the only ones that can stomach him.

[peppertree]

23. That's deSaster alright: like a cross between a Joe Pesci character and Troll

"So - when do I get the keys to the Oval Office?"

[kimbutgar]

24. Plus he's unattractive and has no charisma!

[Torchlight]

25. DeSantis is an odd little gremlin

But I'll admit, he's got the Hate Sells routine down pretty good, and knows exactly how to unload it on his base of subliterate super-geniuses. I just don't see that product having a broad appeal outside his band of merry little he-men.

[CatWoman]

31. ....