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GGoss

(1,273 posts)
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 12:22 PM Mar 2023

Woody Guthrie's family to Josh Hawley: Stop using his lyrics, insurrectionist - KansasCityStar

Woody Guthrie’s family to Josh Hawley: Stop using his lyrics, insurrectionist - KansasCityStar


Sen. Josh Hawley referenced Woody Guthrie last week when he sponsored a bill to prevent people associated with the Chinese Communist Party from owning U.S. farmland and called it the “This Land is Our Land Act.”

But the family of one of America’s most revered folk singers wasn’t exactly thrilled.

Nora Guthrie, Woody’s daughter, said it’s not uncommon for politicians to make use of “This Land is Your Land” because the song advocates for democratic representation. She said she didn’t mind the song being used politically, as long as it aligns with the song’s values.

“In this particular case, the co-opting or parodying of the lyric by those not aligned with Woody’s lyrics - i.e. misrepresentation by autocrats, racists, white nationalists, anti-labor, insurrectionists, etc. - is not condoned,” Guthrie wrote in an email. “We do not consider Josh Hawley in any way a representative of Woody’s values therefore we would never endorse or approve of his reference to Woody’s lyrics.”


Link: https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article272998185.html?taid=640f3cd2f70a1c0001a97a10&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter








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Woody Guthrie's family to Josh Hawley: Stop using his lyrics, insurrectionist - KansasCityStar (Original Post) GGoss Mar 2023 OP
I expect the fleet-footed one to double down EYESORE 9001 Mar 2023 #1
but when we do, the rs moan like doves , we are pirates and hackers. AllaN01Bear Mar 2023 #17
Let's remember it was Woody Guthrie who wrote "Old Man Trump" in 1951 Kittycatkat Mar 2023 #33
Josh Hawley's version: "This Land is My Land" Walleye Mar 2023 #2
"This land was made for only me." raging moderate Mar 2023 #4
Excellent coda! dchill Mar 2023 #5
Perfect Walleye Mar 2023 #7
That's about Rebl2 Mar 2023 #13
Bravo, Guthrie family. Paladin Mar 2023 #3
hawley's voters will be told "Woody Guthrie loves hawley" and they will believe it. mucifer Mar 2023 #6
It's up to us to spread the word about Chicken Hawley. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2023 #29
Wrong song for Hawley, lees1975 Mar 2023 #8
Ironic, in that orthoclad Mar 2023 #9
Reciprocity. keithbvadu2 Mar 2023 #10
Hawley has no "intellectual property" worth anything. Harker Mar 2023 #12
like it republianmushroom Mar 2023 #11
Woody had a sign on his guitar: "This Machine Kills Fascists" panader0 Mar 2023 #14
Yes He Did GGoss Mar 2023 #15
Josh Hawley, that includes you !!! NCjack Mar 2023 #20
Nora Guthrie has proven she is prepared to protect the copyright in court. TomSlick Mar 2023 #16
I Guess That RobinA Mar 2023 #18
Apparently not per the NYT article. TomSlick Mar 2023 #32
Ironic considering the original lyrics had this take on private property Doc Sportello Mar 2023 #19
Here's another one. . .more or less. . .about poor people DinahMoeHum Mar 2023 #26
Poignant Doc Sportello Mar 2023 #28
Well, somebody's got to do it, I guess. wnylib Mar 2023 #21
Hey Josh, why don't you steal from a conservative poet? gratuitous Mar 2023 #22
I wonder if that would be enough to consider it a copyright infringement. C Moon Mar 2023 #23
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2023 #24
Josh photo copyright violation. Did he ever pay up? cbabe Mar 2023 #25
My land is my land murielm99 Mar 2023 #27
Rec. Rec. Rec malaise Mar 2023 #30
TY Woody Guthrie's family live love laugh Mar 2023 #31

EYESORE 9001

(26,065 posts)
1. I expect the fleet-footed one to double down
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 12:33 PM
Mar 2023

His ilk have no respect for intellectual property rights.

AllaN01Bear

(19,090 posts)
17. but when we do, the rs moan like doves , we are pirates and hackers.
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 01:47 PM
Mar 2023

im for artists and others being paid but this is out right theft.

Walleye

(31,236 posts)
2. Josh Hawley's version: "This Land is My Land"
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 12:33 PM
Mar 2023

This land is my land, this land ain’t your land, I’ve got a shotgun, and you ain’t that one, you better get off, I’ll blow your head off.
Maybe he thinks those are the real lyrics

raging moderate

(4,327 posts)
4. "This land was made for only me."
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 12:44 PM
Mar 2023

The stirring conclusion to Josh Hawley's version of Woody Guthrie's song.

mucifer

(23,658 posts)
6. hawley's voters will be told "Woody Guthrie loves hawley" and they will believe it.
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 12:53 PM
Mar 2023

their news sources will never tell them what Nora Guthrie believes or states.

lees1975

(3,979 posts)
8. Wrong song for Hawley,
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 12:58 PM
Mar 2023

given the video of his jaunt through the Capitol when insurrectionists were attacking, his theme should be "take it easy" with the lyrics "runnin' down the road tryin' to loosen my load."

orthoclad

(2,910 posts)
9. Ironic, in that
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 01:08 PM
Mar 2023

Woodie wrote a column for The Daily Worker, the paper of the Communist Party USA.

It's much like all the "MLK would have supported" this or that reich-wing bullhonkey, despite him having been a socialist radical.

keithbvadu2

(37,163 posts)
10. Reciprocity.
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 01:09 PM
Mar 2023

There should be a law that if someone uses your image/intellectual property without your permission, then you can use theirs to promote any cause you wish.

Reciprocity.

Harker

(14,160 posts)
12. Hawley has no "intellectual property" worth anything.
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 01:16 PM
Mar 2023

I think the reciprocity idea, if somehow implemented, would leave worthwhile people with skills and talent open to exploitation by nobodies with nothing, like Hawley.

Doc Sportello

(7,560 posts)
19. Ironic considering the original lyrics had this take on private property
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 01:56 PM
Mar 2023

"Was a big high wall there that tried to stop me
A sign was painted said: Private Property,
But on the back side it didn't say nothing —
This land was made for you and me."


DinahMoeHum

(21,861 posts)
26. Here's another one. . .more or less. . .about poor people
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 03:00 PM
Mar 2023

"As I was walking, in the shadow of the steeple
By the relief office, I saw my people
As they stood there hungry, I stood there wondering,
If this land was made for you and me"

C Moon

(12,229 posts)
23. I wonder if that would be enough to consider it a copyright infringement.
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 02:24 PM
Mar 2023

It's obvious that's what they were doing, but I thought song titles were not protected under our copyright laws.

cbabe

(3,578 posts)
25. Josh photo copyright violation. Did he ever pay up?
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 02:48 PM
Mar 2023
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