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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"A lot's gonna come out sooner or later," one Ga. grand juror said. "And it's gonna be massive"
Tamar Hallerman @TamarHallermanEXCLUSIVE: @ajccourts and I sat down with five of the Fulton County special grand jurors, who gave us a detailed, behind the scenes look at their eight months of service https://ajc.com/politics/exclusive-behind-the-scenes-of-the-trump-grand-jury/6CXLKTFMKNDU7O6TER4B7UTZPE/
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In an exclusive interview with The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, five of the 23 special grand jurors recounted what it was like to be a pivotal but anonymous part of one of the most momentous criminal investigations in U.S. history; one which could lead to indictments of former President Donald Trump and his allies.
One juror expressed appreciation for the behind-the-scenes look the group received of Georgia politics and the ballot-counting process. Another indicated he had grown more jaded after it became clear that some witnesses were telling the grand jury one thing about the election under oath and then casting doubt on the system when they returned to the campaign trail, sometimes hours later.
I can honestly give a damn of whoever goes to jail, you know, like personally, one juror said. I care more about there being more respect in the system for the work that people do to make sure elections are free and fair.
read more: https://www.ajc.com/politics/exclusive-behind-the-scenes-of-the-trump-grand-jury/6CXLKTFMKNDU7O6TER4B7UTZPE/
kentuck
(111,089 posts)I hope so.
bigtree
(85,996 posts)...the one seated in March for a two-month stretch.
The regular grand jury also deals with every other criminal investigation put before them.
Cheezoholic
(2,019 posts)I understand that. But the grand jury that can indict is now seated and is currently hearing evidence if I understand correctly? Just trying to clarify and TY for the link.
bigtree
(85,996 posts)...and sits for 2 months.
They are now being presented with what Fani Willis wants them to decide. It's not likely to be an entirely new round of witness presentations. She can take most of what the special gj did and present that product to the jurors, and jurors can request witnesses come in and stand before them and answer questions, as well.
Cheezoholic
(2,019 posts)fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)The lead juror in the special grand jury told us they recommended over an dozen indictments.
The lead juror also told us they heard multiple recordings of Trump.
When people like this tell us something, we should listen and believe them.
Meadowoak
(5,545 posts)SomedayKindaLove
(529 posts)When it hears repeating does it mean it will be extra massive?
hookaleft
(938 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)If nothing comes out of this I'll be devastated, as will so many others.
bigtree
(85,996 posts)...this is an unprecedented view into the grand jury process, though, which should give at least some comfort that justice is being pursued.
What I'd like folks who are anxious to take away from this is an understanding that this is a deliberative process involving multi-dozens of witnesses and over a dozen perps.
It's also a process of law that is often slowed by the rights afforded the accused, something to consider as the government works to hold people accountable. This grand jury process is subject to challenges to evidence and claims of privilege which require court hearings with court dates set by judges, often set months in the future at the behest of the defense.
Hopefully most of those kinks were ironed out in the special grand jury, and as expected, the process of indictments begins soon.
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)I definitely fall into the anxious folks category. Your explanation is appreciated and understood. It's only my angst that's been simmering for seven effing years.
Mr.Bill
(24,284 posts)baseball game.
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)blm
(113,052 posts)DavidDvorkin
(19,475 posts)brettdale
(12,381 posts)Okay then, if this was happening, Trump would already be in Russia.
kacekwl
(7,016 posts)with endless delays and court shenanigans.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)There are good citizens, dedicated people who do the grunt work of government whose lives have bee turned upside down because one petulant brat can't deal with losing.
KS Toronado
(17,224 posts)Middle of the road republicans will be so turned off by the G卐P's shenanigans that they decide
to teach them a lesson and vote for Democrats in huge numbers in 2024.
onecaliberal
(32,852 posts)They will find out about it all and not care. There is something about these people everything should understand. They know, and they dont care.
Beartracks
(12,809 posts)... into simplistic misinformation that his snowflake fans can handle. They mustn't be offended by the rawness of truth, you know.
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GuppyGal
(1,748 posts)angrychair
(8,698 posts)Willing to admit that up front, that said, 40 years of history supports my opinion that, in the end, the most that will come of this is a small fine and strongly worded admonishment of tfg behavior.
Likely nothing at all. It's not an unsupported opinion.
This guy has very literally been commiting crimes of one kind or another for 40+ years with absolutely zero consequences.
In the last days of his election in 2016, he was in court for a fraudulent school and all kinds of other nonsense. No criminal charges were ever filed
Nothing.
He stands accused of sexually assaulting 20+ women, including a child. Nothing.
He has 5 kids by three different women and cheated on all his wives, multiple times. He cut off his own brother 's healthcare when he was dying.
And Republicans call him a godly man. A family man.
Despite a horrible and bitter campaign and 4 years of complete and total shit, in 2020 he got more votes than any Republican presidential candidate in history. I mean he got more than Obama did in 2008.
Despite historical loses in Congress and a failed one term presidency, he is the leading Republican candidate in 2024.
I truly hope I'm wrong but history says this guy will never see the inside of a prison cell. I don't understand it. It makes no sense. It's just the word we live in.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)On J6 Trump moved to the major leagues when it comes to crimes. For most of his life as a corrupt businessman he did a lot of petty crimes compared to what he has done now. He had an army of lawyers who got him out of shit. He had money to settle things. None of that will work now.
While he was president and committing crimes, He had the presidency and corrupt AG that protected him. He has none of that now.
Looking back at the history of Trump and how he got away with shit, is not relevant to what he is facing now. This is completely different.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,601 posts)Kudos to the AJC for arranging the anonymous interviews, while preserving the ethics and integrity of the Grand Jury process.
chowder66
(9,067 posts)What is massive to them (which it should be to everyone) may be what people who follow politics more closely already, mostly know.
If there are some massive revelations (besides the new tape recording), that would be interesting to learn about for sure.
brettdale
(12,381 posts)Not just in politics.
That someone says "something massive is going to happen"
There is going to be an announcement for an announcement.
What is massive to someone, is ho hum to another.
Its beginning to feel like Groundhog day.
chowder66
(9,067 posts)Best to lower expectations or get rid of them all together and wait-and-see.
Blue Owl
(50,356 posts)fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)They will not listen. They choose to be negative about all the investigations , any good news. The charges in Georgia are serious. The indictments are coming and it will be historic.
Your post is good news. Some people are determined to be proven wrong.
Johnny2X2X
(19,060 posts)Maybe indictments in mid April.
NY will have indictments in the next week or so IMO.
Smith, maybe May or June.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)BRING IT ON ALREADY
Martin Eden
(12,864 posts)If there was audiotape of Trump threatening to have Georgia election officials assassinated if they won't overturn election results, the Magats would believe Trump when he says nothing was wrong with his "perfect" call.
Then Gym Jordan would start an investigation of the Georgia officials, insinuating they're connected to Hunter Biden's laptop.
bigtree
(85,996 posts)...not Fani Willis.
Martin Eden
(12,864 posts)All I'm saying is the Magaverse is impervious to any mountain of evidence against their cult leader.
dalton99a
(81,476 posts)When?
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)Be patient
Sort of inspired after the fact by the lyrics dont worry be happy
bigtree
(85,996 posts)...as in, it's untruthful, but who's keeping score?